Securing $$ at a sit-down conversation club?
i recently started working at the sister club of my club also. what i have noticed is as opposed to sitting with custys for 10-20mins like at my club, girls here sit with them for a long time and they get booked out even longer.
i know for a fact they are not all regulars, i overheard a convo about a girl sitting with a custy for 1.5 hr and then getting a 2 hr VIP.
i dont have trouble talking to them for so long, but what im worried about is, how do i know that he will pay for me after i sit with him for an hour or whatever? id like to get more vips that way but at the same time i dont want to waste hours of my life on someone who wont buy and is just talking my ear off while other girls get all the paying customers?
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You really don't. Sometimes it's worth it and sometimes it's not, you just have to gauge if you'd rather risk sitting around and talking for a loooong time (ie. when it's slow and there's no one else around so what else are you going to do) or not. One of the girls I work with will sit with a guy as long as it takes to get him to ask her for a dance. Sometimes this works great for her and after a few songs they go to the back and she gets a long string of dances. The other night, she sat with a guy for an hour and he got one dance. It's a gamble, really, because unless the customer explicitly says: I will go for an x long VIP with you if you sit around for x amount of time (and even then, I'd be wary of believing them), you just don't know. Perhaps the girls are asking for some cash while they're sitting and chatting on the floor?
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sitting with customers for a long time is just fucking annoying. I tried it last night trying to upsell some champagne rooms or more dances, but I had hardly any luck. I sat with 5 customers for about 25+ minutes each and only ONE of them bought ONE dance. maybe it's just my personality that they get annoyed with after a while. I don't really know what to talk about and I have a hard time maintaining eye contact with a stranger for more than 10 minutes. I'm better with the quick sells.
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Even at the sit and talk clubs I always told customers they had to buy me a drink every 20 min or so or my manager would make me leave (I got $5-10 for each drink and since I normally got them myself, usually a tip with the drink).
I always did very well at this sort of club. Customers appreciated that I was well educated and could chat about whatever topic they brought up. If you are flirty and intelligent you can normally sell a string of dances after sitting with the guy for 10-20 minutes, and I find the tips to be much bigger in this sort of club, generally I'd get tipped around half the cost of the dances, sometimes much more. I don't think the super trashy dirty talk would go over well in this environment (although I'm sure there are exceptions), but this is just what I've seen, never could do that myself. Just flirt and act like you are sooooo into them while sitting with them, then tell them you just HAVE to get naked on their lap. Works really well.
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Heres a hint you might have figured out by now... Its well known that the VIP area in that club is a break the rules area. Lapdances, touching, possibly kissing allowed or more or less ignored by management there. Thats why they make people book min 1 hour to go in there. Just be careful. Although Im all for VIP areas that have slightly more relaxed rules then what Sydney currently offers. That particular VIP room is not that private so just keep that in mind. Also the management there seems to have separate rules for different dancers as to what is actually allowed in the VIP. I hope you cracked the code but in case you didnt... this might be some insight into why not.
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^ I think its just a favourites thing. Some of these girls have been there 3x longer than the managers have. I would guess there are a few girls who have worked at that club for over 10 years. I know for sure over 6 because I worked there 6 years ago and there are some of the same girls still working.
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^ yeah i got in trouble for hanging my legs off from the edge of the podium when i look across theres a girl giving a nude lapdance in the shower.
yeah i get the VIP and i been there with just light lapdances, but some guys apparently need like x amount of time sitting with you before going there and while i want big VIP $$, i wanna make sure theyre not just gonna walk out after wasting an hour of my life on the floor. so i guess it must be tips?
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^honestly I think most of those girls are making promises or suggesting things that aint going to happen... thats just the feedback ive had from customers that go there.
Like using lines like... "well are we going to pick each others brains all day or are we going to get real naughty in VIP?"
Customer: "I donno what are you going to do for me"
Dancer: "Im gonna give you an hour youll never forget"
Customer: "ya but are you going to be naughty?"
Dancer: "of course thats what we are here for isnt it?"
This is the type of closing convo they have to book that area. Personally Im not into it because I sure as hell no Im not going to be "naughty" once in there. But if you are comfortable with implying action then go for it.
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working there i usually get intimidated so i get drunk. i absolutely cannot bullshit when im sober.
i guess with the bait n switch its about not being specific so you can be like oh but a lapdance is my version of being naughty...
oh well i guess ill get drunk, promise the moon, then leave :P
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princessjas
Even at the sit and talk clubs I always told customers they had to buy me a drink every 20 min or so or my manager would make me leave (I got $5-10 for each drink and since I normally got them myself, usually a tip with the drink).
That's always a good way to get a bit of extra money.
Honestly... Even at sit down clubs I don't sit down and talk very often unless it's a regular of mine. I'm good at dancing so that I don't have to be good at talking; I HATE TALKING TO CUSTOMERS! Lol
My advice: learn to put on a REALLY good stage show.
Typically I do a stage... grab a guy who was at my stage and wanted a dance, take him back for a string of dances... grab another guy who was at my stage and wanted a dance... take him back for a string of dances, ect... and by the time I'm out of customers from the last stage set to dance for... It's time to go on stage again.
That or make friends with someone who IS good at talking and let her sell doubles for you all night. ;D