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warning about your privacy 2
I read an interesting post on http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com , in the hidden area of the forum, for models only. The camwealth has not been hacked, they neglected to protect the files. The bad news are there are 2 more sites that done the same thing and now the IDs are in the hands of persons who can use them for different purposes.
I can't give more details in here because it's not safe (there are some print screens with how the files appear). The prove for camwealth possible sue (for those who want to do that) exists. I suggest you all go there and read if u're interested about the subject.
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How can i find the hidden part? Also, camwealth supposedly have models who work for them so i think they'd be able to infiltrate it. I say make only available to models who have a known reputation such as camwhore and bambalina (when i say reputation i don't mean anything bad, I just mean people who have been activate a lot.)
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it's more than that.
The file was actually PUBLIC for those who knew how to look, and same is for other sites that neglected the models privacy. For the access to to Models Area, u can register on forum and drop a line to [email protected] . See more details here http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/i...p?showtopic=38
I first wanted to copy/paste it from there to here, but after second thought I figured why they posted it in Models only area.
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I hope you took a screenshot of it yourself. I'm sure that more than just whoever posted is watching this forum now.
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Also anyone who is concerned about the social security number being stolen, you can put out a fraud alert.
http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answ...tail/a_id/1649
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I'm aware of this too eroteea, and will look into it. Misconfigured directory permissions on a website are very frequently a source of security breaches, and what supposedly happened in this case. I have yet to confirm it. If the directory was left "open" to the public, it's not a hack. It's someone simply leaving that information open to the public, and someone else stumbling across it. Not good. Especially in your profession.
Breeze
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would anyone be kind enough to PM me the info? Thanks x
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hmm.. since the members here are not verified as models i have a retain in sending it (nothing personal with anybody), but if there's a prove for models to sue the site, should remain there. join the restricted area, it's simple.
Im curious too what are the others 2 sites with the same glitch, because from the contract appearance I cant figure (I think i didnt join those), maybe some from here can tell.
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Thank you so much for this info. Please be VERY careful when saying other sites are involved, that there is evidence to back it up like there is evidence of the un-secure directory at CamWealth. So far we have seen no real evidence of any other site being involved in this particular problem or case.
B
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the IDs and contracts that have been taken using the same method of discover the unprotected files are from another site, not camwealth.
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:( like I haven't proven myself as a model - I even use the same name as my model name on a ton of sites
nevermind
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I completely agree with Bambalina. Don't jump the gun before there is solid proof that the directories in question were simply left "open", rather than hacked. There's a BIG difference.
Breeze
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Personally for me it doesnt matter if they were hacked or let free, I wouldnt join those sites in any of those cases (being it neglect or poor security), especially if the id-s of many models already have been made public for whatever reason.
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I agree with that too Eroteea. I'm just suggesting we collect our own proof before taking the word of the original source that the information was simply laying around.
Breeze
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well then ask the orginal source for the links so you can verify them yourself.
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Ok...we KNOW that camwealth had an OPEN un-secure directory, because at least one and possibly more members here SAW it, and also because CamWealth admitted and later retracted that there was a severe security problem.
HOWEVER, we do not know that ANY other site is involved. The "hacker" or person who was harassing folks on Yahoo has said there IS other sites involved, but that it NOT the most trustworthy witness.
CamWealth said other sites are involved. But they are VERY LIKELY covering their ass. Especially since the one site they directly named does NOT collect IDs at ALL. So that was a lie, and the site has come here and categorically said they were absolutely NOT hacked, nor do they keep IDs in an open directory, because they don't ASK FOR IDs.
Thus I think implicating other sites should be done ONLY with serious evidence of the level we have on CamWealth. We KNOW they are a culprit, thusfar, everything else is just maybes.
I'm awaiting Model Access on Camgirl-Notes....
B
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Access has been granted Bambalina.
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Ok, thusfar it seems to point to at least 2 sites, but without the promised links, we have some evidence, but not the goldmine that even one active link would bring. Also, the names of the involved sites, which should NOT be posted publicly yet, should be sent to Dancing Days, who is in contact with the lawyer.
If you want to send anything this way, I volunteer to document it all, and to work on contacting some of the affected models. If not, that's fine too. But definitely Dancing Days needs to be updated.
We need definitive evidence that other sites are involved.
B
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Hello Any SW members who wish to join the CGN forum and gain access to its restricted models areas need only follow this simple procedure.
http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/i...p?showtopic=38
We have to be careful about granting permission to access the models area because CGN has drawn the attention of various love-struck "fan-boys, pirates, stalkers and studio admins who would just love to read what our model members have to say in private...
But it should go without saying, that any model here is more than welcome to join the conversation.
UL
CGN Mod
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I just joined that forum and am in the restricted models area but can't find the post (I am having trouble navigating the site at all). Can someone give me a little help as to how I find it? Thanks!
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nevermind- found it thanks
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Isn't having the screen shots up still in a forum (nothing is really protected online as is super obvious already, but CGN does not have a dedicated IP, SSL, etc) a continued compromise of each model's security?
Model-verified-protected or no, that is not security against our ID screenshots:
1. Being transferred to another site (screen shots on a forum are extremely easy to move around)
2. Being used by verified models for blackmail, identity theft, etc.
Also RE- the model verification process: just emailing someone your model name & where you model is easy, I could pretend to be anyone. the verification process should be far more stringent - or even as basic as 'tweet this code after we email you to your model ID account then post a blog entry with the same code'... something where the model would nee dto jump through several hurdles to prove her identity).
Adding that model verified does not seem to even be a solid criteria as (no offense intended here, just stating fact), Bambalina is by her own word not a current model / was not directly affected by this and just had to send an email to gain access.
I'm glad that more evidence is being presented for anyone to file a suit but the fact that it is just actively sitting on a website for anyone to repeatedly access makes me ill. The whole ordeal has been extremely nauseating and infuriating, so understand that this is clouding my possible appreciation, but I hope this has been considered by CGN.
Our own continued security/privacy should remain paramount and not get furthered compromised.
The verification process may be treated somewhat flimsily since there are an influx of people submitting new registrations that the mods would understandably want to approve sinc ethis has garnered quite a bit of interest. Regardless, model verification or no, is not a guarantee that this information will not be further used against us and CGN itself can be potentially named as well for willingly hosting this information... on a 'protected' part of an unsecured website or no.
Sorry if this has been covered, I have not been on the forum in under a week and have been scrambling and investing a lot of time trying to re-secure my identity/privacy as much as I can after this.
I hope they will be taken down eventually.
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Roast- Im sure someone from CGN will answer you here but until they do Im assuming you havent seen the screenshots there. They are blurred and illegible. So its not comprimising anyones personal info.
But I do agree the criteria for getting access is very weak.
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Hi Roast. I've been harping about the model verification procedure at CGN for months. Understand that there is a thread open in our STAFF area discussing this process right now. Specifically how to make sure that those who we grant access to the restricted model area actually are performers, or recently were with a long history. I know you're a member there as well and would very much appreciate yours and any other performer's suggestions on what we can do to strengthen that process. I have made the suggestion that ONLY CGN Model Moderators may verify models, and that they do so 'on site' while the prospective performer is working. Ofc that process would have to be outlined in writing so that when one of the model mods show up in your chat, the exchange will already be known. For example, you request model area access and are emailed a code (similar to what you suggested). When one of the model mods enters your chat, and gets your attention, you'll already be looking for the question "CGN access?" (or whatever the key phrase may be) and will be prepared to acknowledge that phrase with your code word. And this in addition to what is already being done for model verification. Which is more than you've outlined. And no offense meant to Bambalina, but even though she was granted model access, I personally told her flat out that I don't know her from Eve and that I don't trust her with this type of information. So, I am open to suggestions. I'd also say that CGN needs more model moderators on board to facilitate this process and it's something that has been happening slowly over the past year.
As for the sensitive stuff that's already posted in the model area, I'm not so keen on it being there either. I started another discussion in our "STAFF" area about this and about the information that I've been documenting. Understand that before I do ANYTHING with it or release it to ANYONE, those sites will be contacted and forced to close the security breaches. Only after they've been fixed will those sites be named. And the IDs / Contracts that I might find in the process will not be posted to the forum at all. One of the model moderators is suggesting that she can contact those models directly to notify them of the security breach and possible legal action. But really what happens is up to you guys. I'm not giving anything to anyone (except Camgirl, a model mod and forum chair) before the breaches have been closed.
Breeze
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Originally Posted by
annabellz
Roast- Im sure someone from CGN will answer you here but until they do Im assuming you havent seen the screenshots there. They are blurred and illegible. So its not comprimising anyones personal info.
But I do agree the criteria for getting access is very weak.
Thanks for clarifying - no I havent seen them, so I admit my comment may have been a bit shrill but this all has sucked... thanks for letting me know what they look like.
I havent sent verification info b/c the guy who is linked to as the person to email my information to is a member who has posted on CGN about never paying camgirls - http://camgirlnotes.15.forumer.com/i...opic=794&st=25
(not meant as an attack but my experience is that the customers to be most wary of-even if they mean well- are those who don't pay, so understand my perspective as a long time sex worker... particularly if you're new to forum, I just expected it to be a bad scene).
A lot of people seem to be jumping into this madness who were not directly affected, most seem genuine but this is too sensitive of a topic to just blindly trust whoever is the loudest or to even try to decipher self-interest, white knights, and people who are as equally pissed/weary as you are (who seem to be the quietest, which is understandable, Ive been in 'back away slowly from everything' mode since this broke).
Given that I was on the site in question (thanks again to CW for even bringing this up), have always been extremely cagey about my personal info.... understand that I'm just generally wary of this whole.... whole thing, and also by some of the ways its being handled by those not involved or affected. So if CGN was unfairly lumped, my apologies.
Ugh, this is rambling and not edited . I guess at the very least I'm glad its blurred.
Thanks.