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Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
Well, I was curious, I wanted to ask if there was anything helpful that ol' FD could do for us, and it seems he likes the idea of being hero, much more than the idea of being villain...whoda thunk it?
Anyway, we can argue the details later, but suffice to say it was an interesting talk, and he wants to come here and see the thread we make...
My Yahoo name was replaced with B_the Intrepid, if you want the real one...ask.
Francis Daves: who are u?
B_the Intrepid: Bambalina from StripperWeb
B_the Intrepid: Your rep pecedes you
Francis Daves: dunno whoa re u
B_the Intrepid: there's a whole thread about your enormous ID theft and your wild camgirl blackmail atrempts and all sorts of stuff
B_the Intrepid: Your being called a hacker, when you didn;t break the law at all to get the IDs...correct?
B_the Intrepid: Open folder
Francis Daves: yes
Francis Daves: and.. what do u want?
B_the Intrepid: Well, curious...since I don;t have ID there...and I got no cross to burn...y'know?
Francis Daves: i do not even know where u got my id, lady
B_the Intrepid: But I do want to follow this story because it's VERY interesting to me
B_the Intrepid: Well, I'm trying to tell you
B_the Intrepid: You chatted to a member there and freaked her shit out...
Francis Daves: no, i did not
B_the Intrepid: she came to stripperweb and wrote all about it
Francis Daves: why is it interesting to you?
B_the Intrepid: in fact posted your "mythical chat" you didn't have with her...
B_the Intrepid: both of them even
B_the Intrepid: You want me to go away and leave you alone?
B_the Intrepid: I will
Francis Daves: no, i just wanna know who u are, and what is your interest in this
B_the Intrepid: I run a camgirl forum, and I think leaving those folders open was fucking bone stupid
B_the Intrepid: and I am hoping the women involved have a lawsuit
Francis Daves: the problem was not only letting folder open, but letting IDs there
B_the Intrepid: and I'm hoping you like helping out with that sort of chaos
B_the Intrepid: I get it
B_the Intrepid: and now there is someone on cam-girl notes who is out doing you by finding like 3 or 4 more open directories on other sites with IDs
B_the Intrepid: and posting a jpg with all the IDs...with names and addresses blurred
Francis Daves: i just got into folder
Francis Daves: i did not get any download
B_the Intrepid: I figured maybe..but you did offer to show her ID..at least it said that in the chat
B_the Intrepid: I'm not here to mess with YOU...i promise
Francis Daves: send a link is not sending a file
B_the Intrepid: is ther still any links to open folders, or did everyone shut em up tight?
Francis Daves: as far as i know, all is secure now
B_the Intrepid: So these new breaches are truly something new
B_the Intrepid: would you ever consider being a "good guy"?
Francis Daves: well.. i guess anyone can get into open folders...
B_the Intrepid: exactly
Francis Daves: i am a good guy, as i advised many models about the open folder
B_the Intrepid: that's why we're talking
B_the Intrepid: I mean a really good guy, as in if there WAS a lawsuit, would you give a deposition that you were in that open folder and that you warned camgirls?
B_the Intrepid: and if you oh my god it would be like mana from heaven, had a screenshot or anything to prove that even better
Francis Daves: look, i did not do anything wrong
B_the Intrepid: WE KNOW|
B_the Intrepid: We want you to SAVE us...we're not accusing you of anything
B_the Intrepid: Be a hero
B_the Intrepid: seriously
Francis Daves: are u a camgirl as well?
B_the Intrepid: YOU have the evidence, you actually witnessed that they were completely fucking negligent...it isn't about you...it's about a really bad job of security...
B_the Intrepid: I was..now I promote and do other stuff in the Adult Industry
Francis Daves: ok
B_the Intrepid: So, help us?
B_the Intrepid: we need you
B_the Intrepid: think about it
Two hours go by..he is logged off, and as SOON as I log on he gets this
B_the Intrepid: So, you just disappeared before...never answered...will you help us?
Francis Daves: what help do u need?
B_the Intrepid: Well, would you put in writing that you witnessed an open folder containing IDs?
B_the Intrepid: You don;t have to say anything the least bit incriminating...promise
Francis Daves: sure i can attest i just looked in an open folder
B_the Intrepid: dude, seriously, you probably don't, but if you had a screen cap...I would love you forever...but if you'll attest to that, that's all I can ask
B_the Intrepid: what we need to do is prove they were negligent with the model's info...period.
B_the Intrepid: They now say you never even saw that, there was no breech and it was all a mistake
B_the Intrepid: and there is absolutely NO proof anyone saw IDs
B_the Intrepid: that is what they are claiming
Francis Daves: i will look for and contact u
B_the Intrepid: I'm on ere most days friend, all ya gotta do is say hi
B_the Intrepid: By the way..one last thing...it was reported that you said there were several sites breeched beside CamWealth...true or false? and was that real?
Francis Daves: no
Francis Daves: i never said that
B_the Intrepid: So Camwealth is all you are aware of?
B_the Intrepid: cool...thanks
B_the Intrepid: Mind if I post this in my forum?
Francis Daves: no, u can
Francis Daves is typing...
Francis Daves: just gimme link so i can check later
B_the Intrepid: Okee doke...capping it and will post it tomorrow, and link as soon as I do..
B_the Intrepid: remember, superhero...not scary dude
B_the Intrepid: I seriously appreciate this
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Well, there you go. We'll see how THAT pans out. So, I said I would link it if I posted....do I? And if not, we risk losing this opportunity at a person to testify...Think carefully....
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
No , Now hes just going to come on this form , and target us personally , for talking shit about him
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
And blackmail , is something bad.
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
Not to mention , theres not just a link to the ID's , he had to dig , and his reason was to hurrass us , even open hidden files are hard to get into unless your motivated
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
I dont want him here. He can play nice guy all he wanats but he began blackmailing me in our chat. i still have more of my convo
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
Exactly , I will not suck up to the suspect, Who blackmailed multiple people , And abused one mentally.
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
But one thing...he cannot be BANNED by IP till he comes here, and we will never know otherwise. Secondly, no-one personally has to speak with him even, so long as he puts it in writing that he saw that folder and those IDs. Thirdly, he will find this forum in about 3 weeks anyway when his username hits google, because CamWhore had it in her posts, and several others have as well, and this site indexes. Lastly, he is claiming he never said things CamWhore clearly has him saying, and I would THINK you'd want to confront him on it.
If the consensus says don't send the link, I won't...but either way, once this all hits google he finds us anyway...I think we have nothing to lose and if he gets out of hand we have him banned. But I will respect the decisions of the group.
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
hehe i just dont feel comfortable "Inviting" him lol
I dont want to confront him , If i wanted to talk to the jerk i would add him on yahoo.
Idk , thats just me , I feel like inviting him here , would be begging for a target
Hehe i can see him now
"these dumb bitches want to talk shit , I have their ID's and Addresses , Fuck them , Its on."
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
We are a form calk full of his prey
It would be like inviting a can able , to a people convention
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
Well I can tell him NO...he may not respect that, since I thought we were pretty sure he knew this forum anyway, and got awfully interested once I said "stripperweb", like he was aware of the froofroo...personally I think it is like inviting someone for a chance to make amends...and remember, one cannibal at a people convention gets his ass kicked...
:)
B
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
hahhaha true true , I just dont feel like making amends , making amends is only for thoughs who know they did wrong , he repeatedly hurrsaed many girls , and will probably pick more victims here.
I personaly dont feel comfortable with it , Even if he is here already , I dont want him to think we NEED him here by any means.
Next he will be blackmailing us for camshows , using his word about the subject.
Like ,
Well if you want my help , I will need something from you girls.
Fuck that haha
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
That was interesting Bambalina, but this is yet 1 more reason I am glad I don't use my real model name on open forums. Now a guy I blocked on yahoo will be lurking here. I am not happy about that at all.
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
I think you meant well, but I don't think it was a great idea to invite him to this forum.
I've been a member of SW since '04 under another username. Since them I've seen the Other Work forum go from pretty dead (phone sex was pretty much the only thing we talked about) to one of the most active parts of this site. Ladies view Other Work as their safe haven to openly discuss their experiences. Many of us don't have real life friends who know what we do, so this board is very important to us. Now web cam companies are infiltrating the board and confronting our members directly, even going so far as to use what's said here to ban them from their sites. I can't speak for Pryce, but I'm pretty sure Other Work was not created for this purpose.
I hinted at this in another thread but if you all are serious about taking this case to court discuss this amongst yourselves and then present the info to your attorney. I don't think inviting hackers/"allies"/known harassers/whatever to discuss details on this open forum without your attorney's input is a great idea. You surely don't want something to go down here that could compromise your case.
Just my two cents. Since I am not one of those unfortunate ones who had their ID's exposed, I'll gracefully bow out. This is the last I'll comment on this issue. Good luck ladies.
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
Bambalina, this is not the guy who provided the infos for CGN and said there are 2 more sites.. Somebody else did.
Actually I'm pretty sure he is reading this forum too :-)
If you want his e-mail, contact a Moder from there.
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Since I am not one of those unfortunate ones who had their ID's exposed, I'll gracefully bow out.
Are you sure? Because if other 2 sites are compromised, yours could be one of them too.
The person who has them ALL could easily post them anywhere.
I agree that we should be careful what we post in a public forum.
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
What other 2 sites are supposedly compromised? >_>
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
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Originally Posted by
eroteea
Are you sure? Because if other 2 sites are compromised, yours could be one of them too.
I'm positive as I'm not signed up with any cam sites, so I'm safe. However, this issue really hits home because it's extremely important to me that I keep my adult work and vanilla life separate. I'd be devastated if I were exposed the way you ladies have been.
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
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Originally Posted by
amberluv
What other 2 sites are supposedly compromised? >_>
I asked this a few times yesterday, but apparently they won't tell us?
It is thought they are **edited!!!!!!??**
This is all beginning to feel a bit "I know something you don't know", with something incredibly sensitive- our personal information, and the way it's being dealt with is making me very uncomfortable.
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
I mean I'm done with indy, if its through a comapny. I just freelance every now and then. nothing to serious but yup. I just don't trust all this indy crap, i'd rather stick to multi million dollar companies, they usually have really great security systems, unlike these indy hole in the wall sites.
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
WTF. Why on earth would you ever direct a blackmailer/hacker/problem customer of any sort here to stripperweb??? That was not smart, you just opened the doors to more harassment.
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
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snowC
I asked this a few times yesterday, but apparently they won't tell us?
It is thought they are ***
This is all beginning to feel a bit "I know something you don't know", with something incredibly sensitive- our personal information, and the way it's being dealt with is making me very uncomfortable.
it's nothing sure, but even if it would be sure, dont u think it would be an invitation for 'curious guys" , hakers and stalkers, who read this public forum too, to go and look and take our IDs from there?
I already invited everybody to see what's posted in camgirlnotes Models Only Area. You can see for yourself as bambilina and others did. I dont see the point posting in public whatever it is.
And there's already a pirate reading SW, and that's for sure.
And even when we'll know for sure, I still think it's not a good idea to post here, especially if it's a legal proof that can be used by those who want to sue the sites for not protecting our infos.
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
Good idea in theory, but you're putting too much faith in the dbag. It's one thing if he just accessed the IDs and let people know, but once he accessed them he used that information to intimidate and harass someone. Obviously he's a moron who has stalker tendencies and get's a kick out of black mail and intimidating women. What the site did was erroneous and should be reprimanded, but not by a campaign led by this fucking yahoo. His crime is a totally different crime and worse than the site's crime. Yes, it would not have happened if the site was more responsible, but this man has some sort of mental disorder and i am a little weary about embracing him in our community, let alone referring to him as a super hero.
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
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Originally Posted by
eroteea
it's nothing sure, but even if it would be sure, dont u think it would be an invitation for 'curious guys" , hakers and stalkers, who read this public forum too, to go and look and take our IDs from there?
I already invited everybody to see what's posted in camgirlnotes Models Only Area. You can see for yourself as bambilina and others did. I dont see the point posting in public whatever it is.
And there's already a pirate reading SW, and that's for sure.
And even when we'll know for sure, I still think it's not a good idea to post here, especially if it's a legal proof that can be used by those who want to sue the sites for not protecting our infos.
Fine, I edited my post. But it would not take a genius to work out what I said.
There are non-private areas on CGN where this has been discussed too, so I do not see how it makes any difference at all.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who isn't interested in rushing over to CGN to try and get myself a model status from someone in charge. And by the way... how is it model-only if it's where a supposed hacker has posted screenshots. So I assume there is not safe either.
I think enough has already been discussed here for the curious to get hunting, and my post will have had no effect on that.
I was trying to help by passing something on, since there is very little assistance here for ANYONE. I will now exit the thread as I do not usually get into this type of thing at all.
and PS: if what I said is that much of a concern, you may want to edit where you quoted me.
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
it's not the hacker who posted in models area, a Moder did. The CGN team received an email form a haker containing precious informations, that cannot be posted in public, as simple as that.
In public has only been posted the discussion from SW about the subject, then another things came up.
Besides the normal curiosity the big picture is more important.
Or you want me to post here the pictures with IDs and contracts? Are you sure?
Would that make you, girls, feel more comfortable than joining a forum?
If not, stop pushing. And if you are not interested, you don't have to. Or are you interested but you want them only in one single way? That's not possible.
You are right, the infos and IDs are already in the hands of the person who sent them, should we make them available to all the stalkers, because it doenst matter anyway, right?
Don't worry, about your post. And I'm sure it will become public (what can be made public) once things will get clear and the proves picked.
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
I know for me I joined the model's only area not to see IDs but just to see the names of other sites that might be affected because I was concerned about that. Maybe other girls are too. I don't think anyone wants to see any IDs etc. As it happens, we don't know the sites anyway :)
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Re: Privacy and My chat with our new ally Francis_Daves...the "hacker".
Eroteaa- I would not post anything you saw in the models only section at CGN here, even if people insist they want you to.
The models section at CGN is the most secure place that I know of where models can talk amoungst themselves with out worry about who else is reading. there are no companies interfering, no guests, no spamming or promotion of companies or sites. And anyone who is reluctant to join there and wants it posted here is because they probably cant join there. If you really are a model and want to see the pictures the cgn staff recieved to see if you recognize yourself or anyone or the format of the contracts, then theres no reason why you shouldnt join yourself..