How to sell to older guys vs younger
Hi,
So I've just started dancing and did pretty well on my first night, but that was kind of luck and guys wanting to try out he new girl i think. I certainly hardly did any hustling. I'm just wondering how to approach and chat to older guys... the flirty/bitch thing seems good for younger guys similar in age to myself, but I don't think I'll feel right trying that with guys twice my age, it seems cheeky haha. And from what I've read here that sort of bs won't work on them. I need to get my hustle on this weekend, and not just chat as my 'nice' self- how should I talk to the 40+ blokes?
Thanks !
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if it's an old guy, just talk. be yourself. they know the game and most of them have made up their mind if they wanna spend or not. old guys just want a girl who's fun and honest. they're probably gonna ask you "so what made you start doing this?" so give them your story! ask them within 2-3 songs if they want a dance and if they don't then say "can I have a tip for my time please?" like I said, they know the game. they know you're not here to drink and hang out so you might get like 10 bucks just for sitting with them. some of the old guys will try to take advantage of the newbies without spending though, so if he tries to cop a feel or if he gives you an attitude, smile and walk away. don't argue, don't glare at him, smile and walk away. no $$$, no attention. when I first started a lot of guys would also promise to do dances or champagne rooms and see how long they could get you to sit there. you'll get better at figuring out he's full of shit.
young guys for the most part are even easier to hustle and for as much as girls whine that young guys don't have money, if bear in mind that they're less likely to be tightwads and almost EVERY guy has enough for ONE dance.
young guys are easier to trick with sexually suggestive body language and use the bitch hustle. I posted a thread about it a while ago.
young guys, even the ugly ones, are egomaniacs. make them think you wanna take them home and fuck them. an old geezer knows you don't want him. a young guy thinks he actually has a chance. you saunter over, you gaze into his eyes, you stroke his neck, giggle at his joke, bat your eyelashes...he thinks you genuinely like him...let him think that ;]
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Older guys are waaaay cooler than the young guys and have more to spend (and generally know it's entertainment and not real life).
#1 - Don't be drunk or otherwise messed up.
#2 - Older guys with intelligence and respect (and money) appreciate intelligence.....they might like a giggly, girly personality, but pair that with some intelligence and you've got that wallet!
#3 - Look polished and not like everyone else. The older guys with cash have a LOT of options. Differentiate yourself, be a Glamazon or the perfect little girl with pigtails sucking on a lollipop, something to make you stand out from the masses of women who hit on them every day.
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I don't like old dudes they smell like vitamins and pee and wear sweatpants or golf shorts they try to hike up exposing their nasty grey viagra balls. >:(
I've only danced for one guy over 35 and it was a silver fox from Scotland who looked liked Pierce Brosnan.
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not always the case. sometimes old guys are sick of everyone being very nice and polite to them and would want a girl to be, apart from nice and polite, a bit more cheeky and flirty as normally they would get more respect than sexual excitement from women our age. either way its wat seems to work for me
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tempest666
I don't like old dudes they smell like vitamins and pee and wear sweatpants or golf shorts they try to hike up exposing their nasty grey viagra balls. >:(
I've only danced for one guy over 35 and it was a silver fox from Scotland who looked liked Pierce Brosnan.
Ick!! Where do you find these guys? The clubs I've danced at most dudes like that couldn't afford the $10-$25 to get in the door. My bread and butter was 45-60 yr old buisnessmen and they all smelled like Cool Water or Polo, not vitamins and it was the young guys that were the sweatpants boner men. I'm sooooo glad I'm retired atm. I've considered going back for a few years before I'm too old, but don't think I could deal with the current state of SC's.
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Know what you are talking about- current events, different buisnesses. Ask him what he does, have him explain and be sooooo interested. Speak with big words, no slang, no cursing.
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In my experience older guys don't want to be hustled and younger guys don't know that they're being hustled.
Older men tend to want you to pretend you really like them and that you're only after their money KNOWING the game. They know whats up but they want the fantasy not the reality.
They want the act. For it to seem like you like them naturally, without flattery, not over promising anything.
Depending on the guy some will try to low ball you but don't let them. They consider themselves experts with strippers but that doesn't mean that you have to take a pay cut.
Younger guys like sassy women that are a challenge. For every time they try to shoot you down rise back up to the top and take control.
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Old guys-surprisingly, I get so along with them perfectly. I'm such an old soul, so that's why I get along with them. They're extremely amusing 'cause they're always telling me all their stories from when they were in the military (one of my regulars likes to brag about all his battle scars). They always have money!!!!
Young guys-well, the only thing I usually have in common with them is being in the service, so they only have money twice a month, b4 and after deployment. Very rarely I have civilian young customers.
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I hate it when the older guys ask me if I find them attractive. I usually go for the 'Oh you're such a gentleman' response, but they don't always buy it.
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^^I guess I was lucky. I always got older good-looking businessmen. Think Richard Gere or Harrison Ford. It wasn't exactly difficult to pretend they were attractive. :D The ones that were truely fugly (with a few exceptions), I always found to be assholes that I didn't particularly want as regs anyway. I also didn't get a lot of the 70ish crowd asking if I thought they were attractive, except this one guy who was the cutest old guy I'd ever seen (not in a sexual way, but his demeanor made it soooo much easier to lie to him).
Young guys were always broke and generally rude and just annoying. I always let the dumb girls try to date them, while I made my money.
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tempest666
I've only danced for one guy over 35 and it was a silver fox from Scotland who looked liked Pierce Brosnan.
Haha, brilliant. It would be nice if it's full of lookalikes, would make my dances a lot more convincing haha.
I'll try the bitch hustle with the younger ones- the better looking they are, the bigger time wasters they were last time I worked!