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How does one cultivate a quality regular?
Some of the girls at my club hardly hustle and rely on their regulars completely.
One girl told me her regular paid for her breast augmentation and a huge chunk of her school tuition.
Another guy comes in everyday and must spend at least three hundred dollars on one specific girl.
I've purchased a prepaid phone and have given my number to a few customers.
For example there is one young guy who cam in and did a VIP with me and bought a couple dances. I gave him my number and have texted him back and fourth. He wants to take me out I told him "It's a little dangerous I'd be more apt to go out with you if you came by to see me a few times so I could get to know you... "
There is another guy who I find very irritating but is completely in love with me. He is a janitor but will spend 30 to 40 dollars on me each time he comes in. I sincerely appreciate it because that is a huge amount of money for him. However I don't want to sit and talk to him when I could be making more money elsewhere. I also feel kind of sickened by the whole thing because he totally infatuated and I just dislike it.
Any tips?
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From my (albiet limited) experience with regulars is the guys who try to date you don't spend as much as the guys who are more focused on coming in to see you to buy dances and/or spend tons of money.
I have a couple regulars right now. One is like your janitor. He wants to date me (he might even think we are or will date). I got him to come back in and see me by trying the same line you gave the other guy, but its ended up not being worth it. He doesn't spend near enough (about the same as your janitor) and he's constantly trying to get me to see him OTC (which isn't going to happen). He's needy and emotionally draining. I'm over it, and in the future I'm not going to waste my time encouraging guys like this in the first place. Some girls might lead guys on to get more money or gifts, but I've never been very good at stuff like that and it's just too much trouble than it's worth to me.
Another guy is the complete opposite. He's very "professional" about our arrangement and has never tried to see me outside the club, or even asked for my number or real name. He just buys a bunch of dances, tips a whole lot, and we sit and chat a little.
I also have another one that also has never hinted at OTC, and just wants to come in and buy dances from me. He also spends a good amount of money.
I just started having regulars a month or two ago, and I've heard from more experienced ladies on here that they almost always end up wanting more in the end, which I believe could be true.
Having a number and e-mail to give out is a good idea. You can't make a guy come back and see you, but make sure you encourage the ones who are worth it and don't waste your time on guys who aren't spending money, especially if they are emotionally draining like that.
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sierra.
From my (albiet limited) experience with regulars is the guys who try to date you don't spend as much as the guys who are more focused on coming in to see you to buy dances and/or spend tons of money.
I have a couple regulars right now. One is like your janitor. He wants to date me (he might even think we are or will date). I got him to come back in and see me by trying the same line you gave the other guy, but its ended up not being worth it. He doesn't spend near enough (about the same as your janitor) and he's constantly trying to get me to see him OTC (which isn't going to happen). He's needy and emotionally draining. I'm over it, and in the future I'm not going to waste my time encouraging guys like this in the first place. Some girls might lead guys on to get more money or gifts, but I've never been very good at stuff like that and it's just too much trouble than it's worth to me.
Another guy is the complete opposite. He's very "professional" about our arrangement and has never tried to see me outside the club, or even asked for my number or real name. He just buys a bunch of dances, tips a whole lot, and we sit and chat a little.
I also have another one that also has never hinted at OTC, and just wants to come in and buy dances from me. He also spends a good amount of money.
I just started having regulars a month or two ago, and I've heard from more experienced ladies on here that they almost always end up wanting more in the end, which I believe could be true.
Having a number and e-mail to give out is a good idea. You can't make a guy come back and see you, but make sure you encourage the ones who are worth it and don't waste your time on guys who aren't spending money, especially if they are emotionally draining like that.
I know right? I can deal with sexual side of things but when it gets emotional I get freaked out. Even the younger guy I've been texting seems to be under the impression that we're dating or emotionally involved. Ugh at least he spends unlike the janitor. In the future I'm only going to give my number to men who spend a ridiculous amount on me and understand how a strip club works.
That being said it doesn't take much effort to text someone. I can always spend a few moments with them and hustle the other custies using the old line "oh I guess I better get back to work" that way they'll feel better about it... i don't know im torn...
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I've had my fair share of regular customers, but they weren't these dudes come from who just come to the club, spend money, and leave. I had a guy who would come in every week, do a half hour champagne with me, buy me dinner, ask me a thousand times how me and my boyfriend are doing, and then leave. after about 2 months he got mad that I wouldn't date him and stopped coming in to see me.
another regular never even asked if I had a boyfriend, he just automatically assumed I didn't. he came in every day that I worked and did a 15 minute champagne and ALWAYS wanted to hang out outside of work.
a handful of regulars after that did the exact same thing.
I've never had a customer who just comes in and spends money with no drama, but what I HAVE noticed is that the girls who get the older men who are big spenders, tend to be older for a dancer (late 20s to mid 30s) and act mature. They tend to be very well versed in politics, economics, and current events or are just very intelligent in general and good conversationalists.
I know a girl who talks about politics to one of her regulars in the champagne room. that would drive me crazy!
I fit in with the younger crowd and I'd rather just make quick sales off the old farts than have to be friends with them.
let's face it, most of the guys with money are older. are you good with old people? do they bore you to death or can you genuinely have an enjoyable conversation with them? can you lay on the charm week after week for someone who's old enough to be your grandfather yet is lusting after you? these are some things to consider.
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I have two regulars that I can rely to come in and see me every single day that I work.
My first regular is an older (but still attractive) gentleman. He gets dances only every week or two weeks, but sits at my stage for two sets every day and tips well. When he does get dances, he gets a bunch at a time...he just doesn't always feel like getting them every day. He only recently asked for my phone number and it's just for ease of knowing what days I'm working - he told me he wouldn't bother me by calling or texting, but that it would be nice if I could text him once a week and let him know what shifts I'm working. He knows that I am in a relationship and he respects that, he has no interest in seeing me OTC.
My other regular is maybe early to mid-forties. He gets dances almost every day he comes in to see me and if he doesn't have time to get dances, he'll tip $20's on stage. He also knows that I am in a relationship and doesn't push OTC activities or meet-ups.
I tend to go for the older men as my regulars. Younger guys to me seem to have higher expectations about OTC. The older guys understand that you like them as people and are genuinely pleased when they come to visit you, but that this is a JOB not your social life. The few younger guys that have come to see me multiple times and spent a lot on me have all given me their phone numbers and begged me to have dinner with them or just hassled me about meeting me somewhere "other than here". And I'm not interested in that, so I won't try cultivating them as a regular because we have different goals from the beginning.
With your janitor I would say, just try to be as happy to see him as possible when he comes in - so that he receives a warm welcome. But you're right to not spend hours sitting and talking with him when there is more money to be made elsewhere. Give him a hug, a warm greeting, dance for him while on stage...but spend your time hustling elsewhere. It's possible that his interest will end up waning, but if he's really so infatuated, he'll probably just keep tipping you even though you're only paying him the minimum of polite attention.
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There's an interesting thread about telling guys whether you're in a relationship or not and whether that harms or helps your money: http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthr...guys+boyfriend
For me, it's cut back on the drama and it hasn't hurt my money. Guys are always just curious about why my boyfriend isn't jealous, etc. etc. I also think your regulars, if you're planning on cultivating a quality long-term relationship with them, will be pleased that you're being honest with them about that and not trying to lie to them and lead them on.
Sorry if this is semi-off topic...it was just something I brought up in my last post that I thought was really interesting.
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I've only had regulars who try to date me. It's annoying ¬ worth the money.
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I have a second phone for work (yay for write-offs!) and I give it out to customers who either
1) Spend a large amount of money and express a want to continue spending time with me on a customer/SD basis, or
2) Spend less but come in and spend money on me several times.
I've met many girls who could lie to and manipulate high-spending customers for years, but I think that's playing with fire. I try to be honest (but not TOO open) with customers, always keep a busy schedule and suggest that they text/call me to set up appointments "so you can have my undivided attention!"
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My best regular comes in once or twice a week and either just buys drinks or gets a couple of VIPs depending on whether he win at the casino or not. He never asked if I have a bf and doesn't ask for OTC contact, but I did run into him one night when I was out on a date. I was sitting at the bar with a hot Swedish boy and realised it was my regular on my right hand side. We acknowledged each other and that was all. He didn't even bring it up next time he was in the club. Good guy.
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ok not trying to be rude i've just had a bad month at work and i'm really frustrated... you guys talk a lot about the regulars you DO have and what they are like.. but how do you cultivate a (hopefully quality) regular?
summer is the ONLY good time for new england (as far as i know, if you know a club that is good year round here please send me a pm). literally in the summer i would bank and every 11 hour shift i've worked since the beginning of september i've walked out with under $200. the only girls who make good money are those with regulars. they will spend between $300-600 each on their girl. one girl will have at least 3 regulars come in in every shift. this makes me so mad cuz i wish i had one >:(
any advice for getting a regular in the first place??
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Make sure every customer you speak with and especially dance for knows your name. When you're separating (particularly after doing dances/VIP), reiterate your name, when you work, and that you'd love to see them again. Give them a number/email address and keep in contact with them. During calls/texts/emails, make sure they know your schedule and try and steer conversations toward seeing them at the club. Remember details about your conversations together (their name, upcoming plans, what they like, sports teams they're into, etc.) and bring them up next time you see them - it shows that you listen/pay attention and makes it seem like you really care about them. Try and actually care about them or find something you like about them since it will come across as more genuine.
Otherwise, it's kind of a matter of being with the right customer at the right time, since I find that regulars tend to cultivate themselves. You can't just make someone who isn't into that suddenly come see you every week and drop several bills on you. All you can do is give them a wonderful experience in the club that makes them want to come back for more.
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shanna dior
Make sure every customer you speak with and especially dance for knows your name. When you're separating (particularly after doing dances/VIP), reiterate your name, when you work, and that you'd love to see them again. Give them a number/email address and keep in contact with them. During calls/texts/emails, make sure they know your schedule and try and steer conversations toward seeing them at the club. Remember details about your conversations together (their name, upcoming plans, what they like, sports teams they're into, etc.) and bring them up next time you see them - it shows that you listen/pay attention and makes it seem like you really care about them. Try and actually care about them or find something you like about them since it will come across as more genuine.
Otherwise, it's kind of a matter of being with the right customer at the right time, since I find that regulars tend to cultivate themselves. You can't just make someone who isn't into that suddenly come see you every week and drop several bills on you. All you can do is give them a wonderful experience in the club that makes them want to come back for more.
omg this is EXTREMELY helpful... thank you so much... seriously spot on i think. like you said, all you can do is do your best and show them why they should come in every week and they make the decision themselves... this really opened my eyes and was kind of my "light bulb" moment. THANK YOu!
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I completely understand how you feel. At my first club, it was exactly the same - some nights would be shitty (like, leaving with $80 shitty) for most girls, but then there would be 3 girls with awesome regulars who spent $300-500 on them. I've never been a "regulars" girl - I can't do it... I always get the guys that are too emotionally needy or want to date me/fuck me OTC, and when they realize it isn't happening, they stop spending on me and move on to someone else to start their "game" all over again... Honestly, I think this is kind of a good thing if you don't have one certain regular that you rely on for decent money. It makes you up your hustle skills or get left in the back of the line. I was always jealous of the girls with the regulars who let them sit there drinking all night, and occasionally doing dances for hundreds of dollars. But then I saw one girl lose her regular over a fight, and when he was gone... she made even less than the girls who weren't making much to begin with. She had never had to keep up her hustle because every single night she worked, this regular would take care of her and she didn't even need to talk to anyone else.
Regulars are never forever, and I don't think you should ever get too comfortable relying on one. If you get one, awesome - milk it for it all its worth and enjoy it, but as long as you don't have one, I would focus more on hustling skills than on trying to cultivate regulars. Hustle is something that can always improve because it's all about you and your actions. Regulars involve the motives/expectations/actions of another person that you will never truly control - it's one of those things where you can only do so much to get it to happen. So I wouldn't beat yourself up over it - focus on the things you can control rather than trying to unlock the secrets of something you really can't.
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Aurora_Sunset
Honestly, I think this is kind of a good thing if you don't have one certain regular that you rely on for decent money. It makes you up your hustle skills or get left in the back of the line.
So true! There's definitely something to be said for being able to bank without having to depend on your regulars to do it. Things come up, regulars have shelf lives, and it's crucial to know how to make money from "new" customers.
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xGigi
I've never had a customer who just comes in and spends money with no drama, but what I HAVE noticed is that the girls who get the older men who are big spenders, tend to be older for a dancer (late 20s to mid 30s) and act mature. They tend to be very well versed in politics, economics, and current events or are just very intelligent in general and good conversationalists.
I know a girl who talks about politics to one of her regulars in the champagne room. that would drive me crazy!
I fit in with the younger crowd and I'd rather just make quick sales off the old farts than have to be friends with them.
let's face it, most of the guys with money are older. are you good with old people? do they bore you to death or can you genuinely have an enjoyable conversation with them? can you lay on the charm week after week for someone who's old enough to be your grandfather yet is lusting after you? these are some things to consider.
Well, despite my short age, I do find the older customer (that always have more money) more interesting than the younger ones. Most of them are aware that you are just a tease and will leave it like that. The fact that I look older than 23 (most men think I'm like 28) also helps.
I'm like that girl you mentioned above; I do talk about politics in the CR/VIP. Most of the times my ideas clash with the customer because I'm a socialist, but they also like the whole "debate" thing and the fact that I know about those things. I also like the old guys who would talk about their war experiences and about military life. They might be pass their prime, but most old men are very interesting.
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I'm with Jay. Older guys are usually more interesting once you start talking to them because they have way more experience than younger guys. I've talked about everything from illegal activity when they were my age to the military to farming to comparing acid trips.
/end off topic
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Um...... you are working 11 hours and walking out with less than $200??? Something is terribly wrong. I work four hours and never walk with less than $300, average around $600, with one over 1K night every week or so.....
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J.D.
Um...... you are working 11 hours and walking out with less than $200??? Something is terribly wrong. I work four hours and never walk with less than $300, average around $600, with one over 1K night every week or so.....
yep, that's new england for ya... in the summer i'd work 11 hours and average 600 and have at least 1 night over 1k each week like u above (except u do it in 4 hours)... i'm stuck in new england at least until i graduate in May.
at least on saturday i made $500 after tipout... meh. i know i should be making more...
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I love the older guys, too. Most of them are gentlemen, interesting to talk to, have good advice for me on finances or career stuff, or at least a good story or two...I can't deal with younger guys. They always want to touch me during dances, or my phone number, or to meet OTC, or they're insecure puppy dogs that want to date. *shudder*
ON topic: Just make yourself available, have some way for them to contact you if they ask, remember their names (<--- that's HUGE).
I haven't really gotten any of my regulars on purpose; they just decided they liked me and I make it easy for them to find me. That being said, I'm not much of a regulars girl. I like the thrill of the hunt for the next customer, and I don't like the drama regulars can cause. I have maybe 2-3 guys that come in consistently for me, and I genuinely like them and am happy to see them. If I have to pretend to like a guy, he'll never become a regular. Either he'll sense my apathy, or if he's too dense for that, I'll just make myself scarce.
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when you sit with the customer find out why he came in there and try to meet his needs. give him the best damn time he could possibly have. make sure you appreciate him and make him believe you are having the best time with him too and make him feel valued and not that he is just a $. and when he's leaving tell him you enjoyed his company and wish to see him again and soon! some guys feel like they're getting cheated if they give you all this money and they think you're just stringing them along so the best way to avoid OTC is to always be busy. guys always want what they can't have.
it's all about keeping his interest and making him feel like it's money well spent.
best not to lie or make promises you're not willing to keep and if you don't feel comfortable if they start to get emotionally attached putsome distance or "break up" with him.
try not too feel too bad taking their money because they choose to come in the SC instead of using a dating or escorting service, if you don't take their money someone else gladly will. just be careful with handling his feelings because he might actually believe he's in love with you - the initial physical attraction, the spending time and getting to know each other, the amount of money he "invests" in you, and if you feel a void for him :making him feel loved, understood, appreciated, wanted,sexy, needed, whatever that make him happy that he feels no other woman ever could, it could be very emotionally draining if you have a conscious.
personally i think it is best to tell the customers that you are in a relationship because as soon as you let them know you are single if the very next thing out of their mouth isn't asking for a date OTC then it is still engraved in their mind that they actually have a chance with you and let themselves get emotionally attached instead of respecting the boundries and keeping ITC. maybe you might not get the guy who's willing to sign over his whole paycheck because he knows he has no chance of actually having you but if you think you want to milk him and lead him on it depends on what level of head-games you are willing to play and will it be worth the amount that he is willing to spend? that's why as long as he thinks you're an awesome chick and he has a fantastic experience whenever he is with you that should keep him coming back.
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kitinboots
My best regular comes in once or twice a week and either just buys drinks or gets a couple of VIPs depending on whether he win at the casino or not. He never asked if I have a bf and doesn't ask for OTC contact, but I did run into him one night when I was out on a date. I was sitting at the bar with a hot Swedish boy and realised it was my regular on my right hand side. We acknowledged each other and that was all. He didn't even bring it up next time he was in the club. Good guy.
that is an ideal situation
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It sounds like you are in a tricky position. I always remind myself when someone asks for my number that when you work, keep it ITC ALWAYS! That nice guy who bought all those dances from you paid you for your time during those dances. He's not paying you to text him is he? He's not paying you to stress about it afterwards, is he? Remember that your time is better spent elsewhere. You can talk to him in the club, and if you really like, text him your work schedule, but keep it to that. No dinners,no phone chat, no emotional bf/gf BS.
Remind him during dances that this is his fantasy, you're his fantasy girl. That's what cultivates a regular. Become their fantasy. Guys all dream of a girl they can have sex with and walk away from a minute later... be their NSA mind fuck. During those 3 minutes/15 minutes become what they want. All (most) guys want at a strip club is to see beautiful women they know they can't get and fantasize about them. When you start bringing that fantasy outside of the club it becomes less and less sexy, and less $$ for you. Once they think you'll hang out with them OTC, even if you won't, they'll start tipping you a little less or seeing you a little less.
When it comes down to keeping your regulars coming in, I always try to remember names. Do different things with your regulars. I have this man John who comes in to see me every week. Every week I bring in some different thing for us during the dance; whether its a paddle, whip, board game, erotic book, massage technique, there's always something new to keep him wondering what will happen next time. If you have fun with ALL of your customers, chances are most of them will remember you and save a few dances for you next time. Keep a small note pad in the back of your customers names and descriptions and details if you're bad at memorizing all that crap like I am. It really helps and guys appreciate it when they come in and a stripper who sees hundreds/thousands of guys a week remembers their name.
If someone insists you give them your number and you really don't want to or if someone gives you theirs and you don't want to take it, tell them that it will ruin your fantasy (lol) of being a naughty girl and that you always go home and fantasize about the guys and you can't do that if you talk to them outside the club. :D