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Escort Referral vs Escort Agency
So I went in for an "interview" today with what I thought was an agency but is really a escort referral service. I think I get the major differences between the two but I want to be smart and not get screwed or do some bs work and make less. The rate is 200 plus tip (everytime she answered the phone she said it that way PLUS TIP ) The referral fee is $150 I believe for EACH client referred to you. They apparently screen and advertise (they do have a banner ad on eros i checked). I basically call the phone opp's if I want to be on that day so I make my own schedule pretty much but I am really not sure if this is a good opportunity or if its just bs... She did answer all my questions and used to be an escort herself. I guess I will just see how it goes on Sunday (my first shift) But I was hoping for some input from you ladies on referral services. I would just go indy (my ultimate goal) but I have slowly been working my way up to the top so baby steps I think is good for me (right now I am a FBSM provider). Thanks all :)
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Wait - you only make $50 a client or is the client "yours" once the initial meeting happens and you don't pay that $150 again?
The referral services where I am (Bay Area) all seem to charge a percentage (usually between 25% and 40%) per appointment. They also let you set your own rates with their input. Some of them also provide the in-call, an initial photo shoot and sometimes a driver for an additional fee. They also promote you on their website, newsletter, boards and do all the screening.
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Discussing tips and what you will do for those tips is what can get you busted.
Plus, 99% of those guys only will hear $200 and not have money for a tip.
Escorted for 10 years, set up your own ads. Do your own sclreening.
Becareful
Good Luck,
Sam
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oops shoulda added that..
when we get to the outcall its up to us to have our own price and "inform" the client so we make the $50 plus lets say I want to charge $300 for the hour then I walk away with $350
And she then said give 10% to the phone opp. This referral service is outcall only, she said she has a friend who can do a photoshoot and to just tip the photographer. No drivers. The weird thing that still gets me though is they own the rights to some stock photos and have at least half of their photos in the gallery page be stock photos. I suppose maybe the men just call up and say "hey id like a brunette, curvy with big tits" and they dont bother too much with the photos but I dunno I always got my clients when I did FBSM from my pics cause who doesnt want to see what they are getting before making and appt?
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Sam38g
Discussing tips and what you will do for those tips is what can get you busted.
I agree 100% I was very surprise when I was told its "up to us" for the tip.
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Sam38g
Escorted for 10 years, set up your own ads. Do your own sclreening.
Becareful
Wouldnt that be considered going indy? I would love love lve to but not sure I am 100% ready for that quite yet
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whatis holding you back from going straight to independent?
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edit: ehhh..no comment. :)
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kisakim99
whatis holding you back from going straight to independent?
Honestly the only thing is the screening process..I am paranoid that I would fuck it up and go to jail. Other than that I am comfortable with all the hard work etc
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TouringGirlfriend
edit: ehhh..no comment. :)
....no really if you posted something I would like to hear it. Unless it was something rude which I am assuming it was otherwise you wouldn't have deleted it
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Girl just do it yourself, you are making it way harder than it is.
Why be paranoid you will put yourself in jail when the referral service could put you in the same boat AND be taking a cut?
It's not real hard to place ads and set your own appts.
I can't understand why anyone would wanna give a cut to anyone else.
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I re-read that again. They are taking $150 per client??? Seriously???
Just go do it yourself.
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^^Well like I said before that is my ultimate goal but my personal preference is to take it slow in this industry..no not slow money making just work my way up to the top. Why should I jump into something I am not 100% comfortable with?
I realize this industry is all about making money and not sugar coating anything..I am not asking for anyone to hold my hand..just good 'ol friendly advice :) which I appreciate!
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lilmisssunshine
I re-read that again. They are taking $150 per client??? Seriously???
Just go do it yourself.
LOL *sigh* you're right
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Not related to the subject really, but, there are SO many escorts out there and yet very few on SW/etc...
It's like they don't even care... don't take the time to read, learn, ask qustions...
we're the smart ones (knocks on wood!) ;D
Good luck whatever you do
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SexxySadie
....no really if you posted something I would like to hear it. Unless it was something rude which I am assuming it was otherwise you wouldn't have deleted it
Why would I post something rude?
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leyla2
Not related to the subject realy, but, there are SO many escorts out there and yet very few on SW/etc...
It's like they don't even care... don't take the time to read, learn, ask qustions...
we're the smart ones (knocks on wood!) ;D
Good luck whatever you do
Hello love, I hope everything is going great on your end. Yes you are very smart and I know things will go very well for you! You are right that they don't take the time to learn, read and ask questions. It took me 6 months with an agency to learn the ropes and go out there and do it myself and such experience is priceless.
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I can imagine you don't want to hear another "do it on your own" but here's my very limited impression for what its worth...
Like you I am just starting out... as a matter of fact Im working on my website and have yet to place an ad, so brand spanking new (and nervous! Ah the unknown!) But I have been researching the heck out of this... reading every article I can find and ordered both of the escort manuals...
Anyway, what stands out to me is your fear of going indie else messing up screening and ending up in jail..
Something Ive read over and again is that there is a higher risk of that through an agency than indie. Logistically that makes sense... with an agency you are putting total trust in someone else to do screening for you... someone who is more concerned with booking clients and making money than a personal interest in you and who isn't affected one way or another if you get busted go to jail. In the spirit of booking an appt right away, they may not always take the time to diligently screen someone.
On your own however, you are in complete control over the screening process. I've been practicing by using info I have for friends to see if they'd check out lol and so far so good with the exception of one who I can't find anything... but he hates the internet, has privacy block on everything and doesn't even have a facebook so...
But yeah... along with verifying references, you've taken the time to do as much and usually more than an agency would. Plus... if you are hesitant and not sure about a guy its as simple as following your gut and declining to meet him. You don't have that option with an agency... you can only take their word for it and to me that's way to risky a chance to take!
Also it seems that the law targets busts on agencies more than indies... and of the indies who did land in jail it seems to either be they royally messed up as in didn't screen at all or broke it down in details what they'll do for how much... or doing incall at their apt and nosy annoyed neighbor got suspicious from all the guys coming around and called the cops... stuff like that.
Anyway... while I'm really nervous too... I'm so busy researching I havn't really had time to worry yet lol But I do know for sure there's no way I'm going to put my safety in someone elses hands and give them a cut for something I can do myself and have total control. And if I do land in jail... well I do have a backup plan I'm going to put in place... even, maybe esp with an agency you need a plan cause they aren't going to bail you out even if it's their fault you're in there...
Take everything I say with a grain of salt though! Lol Like I said I'm just as new as you and if your first shift is Sun youll def land your first client before I do... I'm talking more from what I've read and not at all from experience so I could be way off.
I guess the main thing is to inform yourself and protect yourself to the best of your abilities...
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TouringGirlfriend
Hello love, I hope everything is going great on your end. Yes you are very smart and I know things will go very well for you! You are right that they don't take the time to learn, read and ask questions. It took me 6 months with an agency to learn the ropes and go out there and do it myself and such experience is priceless.
Thanks hun I just pm-ed you;)
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I will say this. Screening is no good if you do not know what to look for. If you're going to work as an escort that's the main thing you need to know. You also need to know "buzz words". Get with an escort in your area and have her teach you the ropes. I personally would not recommend ANYONE to go into this without going through an agency but there are exceptions like Leyla and AudrinaN that did it all on their own with little to no guidance.
I worked for an agency that took $200 out of my $400 an hour pay. It didn't bother me too much. I always went home with a nice wad of cash and I walked away with something much more important than that-knowledge.
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Thank u Blk Sharpie.
Look, I'm not saying to do anything you are not comfortable with or not to get experience, but screening and protecting yourself from the police is rather easy, really.
I did this kinda of thing for years, there were several on and off years, but I'm gonna say a minimum of ten working years. I went to jail ONCE in the very beginning as a teenager, because I was working for someone else, who by the way didn't give a rat's ass, never picked me up from jail, got me a lawyer or anything. And then FIRED me.
No one will protect you like you will yourself.
Don't discuss sex or sex acts for money, ever, and that's most of it right there (well don't work hot areas, either).
But worry less about the police, worry more about the IRS and doing your taxes.
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$200 out of $400 may not be bad, but most agencies will not take that much.
But the way this referral service is having her work for tips, it's gonna be a hassle getting these guys to "tip".
If you insist on working for someone else, I would find a better set up.
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I guess my fears would be from the opposite end of the scale then lol It seems like around these parts there is always a bust going on with agencies and especially massage places...
I'm not entirely sure I'd have much luck with any ladies around here, but that is what networking is for... When it comes to the stuff I do know about I have no problem sharing so hopefully in turn I'll be able to find someone I can connect up with.
I'm glad you mentioned that cause I didn't even consider that as a possibility...
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OP I did not fully read your post until now. I agree with Lilmissunshine. You will have a HARD time getting guys to tip you. Tipping for body rubs happens all the time but not in the escort world. So the fee is $200 and their referral fee is $150? four words: RUN and RUN FAST!!! Screening is easy but it's one thing to screen and another to screen with confidence. If you screen a guy and you still have doubts about seeing him then you did not screen him well.
Another piece of advice: Always be vague. In your email, On your website, On the phone! DO NOT be imitate these low class girls and list services on your website. I saw something like this from a reputable provider and was shocked. I mean POLICE DO KNOW WHAT THE ACRONYMS MEAN! Again be vague and always follow your instincts.
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TG is right. VAGUE VAGUE VAGUE.
I would pretty much not say much about much, I mean these guys know what they came to see you for, what's there to talk about? Listing services is just dumb.
If a guy asks too many questions then always assume he is either or cop or a dumbass and be done with him, because either way, he will be a problem.
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One more thing to ease your mind, prostitution is a very difficult bust to get. You really just have to straight up mess up and say "sex for money" in one form or another like "yes you can touch for this much or I do kiss/massage/bj for this much".
You will most likely get busted on a lesser charge like indecent exposure, or lewdness. When they took me to jail, they kept dropping the charges until they just had to let me go, because they did not have a clear cut case. The only case a judge wants to hear is a clear cut one.
Now that doesn't mean it didn't cost me money or that I didn't sit "behind bars" but my record is and always has been clear.
Never have drugs on you and never keep extra money because they will confiscate your money.