Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
Hate them. I just think the best way to deal with them is to leave, politely as soon as they go on their "i don't buy dances" tangent. And to ask about dances 2-3 songs in so you don't waste a lot of time on potential time wasters.
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
I always ask them what they are doing in the sc then. Im still somewhat friendly about it, if they are at least tipping the waitresses and such, but I still want to let them know the dancers are generally not happy with them. And they are so self-righteous about it too. Like the guys who have dated dancers and think they know it all about strippers. They just tick me off. grrr....
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
why should guys be obligated to buy dances?
its a bar, and if they choose to go there to eat and drink then so be it....
its kind of like going to a bar that has a band playing music....you can sit there and drink and eat and enjoy the bands music and entertainment....but you dont have to pay the band....
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
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papillonluvr
I always ask them what they are doing in the sc then.
to eat and drink and watch naked ladies i would assume....that does not mean they are obligated to pay you for it in private....kind of a stupid question really....
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
I agree.... these guys can be annoying - BUT, some of them still know the drill and are happy to tip you to sit and chat. Some guys just aren't into lapdances, but want to have a drink with a pretty girl. I'm fine with that, as long as they are compensating me. Nothing is free, baby!
The rest of them are just time-wasters.
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
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Sylvia
to eat and drink and watch naked ladies i would assume....that does not mean they are obligated to pay you for it in private....kind of a stupid question really....
wow. that was unnecessarily dickish.
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
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tampadancer
wow. that was unnecessarily dickish.
Did you expect anything else from Sylvia?
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
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Sylvia
to eat and drink and watch naked ladies i would assume....that does not mean they are obligated to pay you for it in private....kind of a stupid question really....
They're not obligated to pay for a private dance but there's a polite way to decline and a rude way that makes them assholes.
It's sort of like being at a grocery store that is handing out free samples. You enjoy the free food and maybe the lady even lets you have several samples. Then she asks you with a smile if you would like to make a purchase. You can either:
A. Say no thank you.
or
B. Sneer at her and say "I don't buy stuff I can get for free, what are you, stupid?" and then continue to stand at her table and eat her samples while making her feel incredibly uncomfortable.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with A. In fact, in a strip club setting you could even continue to enjoy the samples after saying no thank you.
B makes you an asshole in any setting.
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
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Sylvia
to eat and drink and watch naked ladies i would assume....that does not mean they are obligated to pay you for it in private....kind of a stupid question really....
It's called sarcasm, at which I see you're a pro at using but not recognizing. And maybe they are not required to pay for a private dance, but if they're not tipping anyone, then they really are being rude and just taking up space, which I don't have to like and since I can be as rude back as I like, I sometimes am.
You see, I like to be mean and petty face-to-face, rather than anonymous, like some people on here. (that was sarcasm again, in case you didn't notice).
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
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papillonluvr
You see, I like to be mean and petty face-to-face, rather than anonymous,
then it is very obvious why you are being turned down for dances....
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
^LOL well considering you dont think it is important that customers buy dances and that you think that 800$ an hour for a VIP is overpriced and entitles a customer to a lot, i doubt that you would be banking if you were in fact a dancer.
also i have worked with papillonluvr... i can vouch that she is a hustler. and i am sure she can do the same for me :D.
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
Sylvia is no dancer. I've never seen a dancer state that a customer who doesn't tip belongs there. Every dancer I've known HATES the jerks who don't at least tip. I realize not every girl will appeal to every customer, but cheapasses that are coming just to see naked dancers without tipping should just buy porn and stay at home.
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
Yep. I get enough dances that when I want to be a bitch, I can afford to be a bitch, especially to someone who is not buying dances anyways. And athena, You are one of the best hustlers I've ever worked with. :)
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
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Sylvia
why should guys be obligated to buy dances?
its a bar, and if they choose to go there to eat and drink then so be it....
its kind of like going to a bar that has a band playing music....you can sit there and drink and eat and enjoy the bands music and entertainment....but you dont have to pay the band....
Then if they are going just to drink they should go to a bar with drinks and no dancers.
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
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MarvelGirl
They're not obligated to pay for a private dance but there's a polite way to decline and a rude way that makes them assholes.
It's sort of like being at a grocery store that is handing out free samples. You enjoy the free food and maybe the lady even lets you have several samples. Then she asks you with a smile if you would like to make a purchase. You can either:
A. Say no thank you.
or
B. Sneer at her and say "I don't buy stuff I can get for free, what are you, stupid?" and then continue to stand at her table and eat her samples while making her feel incredibly uncomfortable.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with A. In fact, in a strip club setting you could even continue to enjoy the samples after saying no thank you.
B makes you an asshole in any setting.
sorry but that is not the same....a paying customer does not come into the grocery store for the free samples....they go there to do their shopping....if free samples are available they will take them....nobody passes up a "free-be"....that does not mean the customer is obligated to buy what he has sampled....
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
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papillonluvr
Yep. I get enough dances that when I want to be a bitch, I can afford to be a bitch, especially to someone who is not buying dances anyways.
you must make your club owners happy....i am surprised you still have a job
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Sylvia
you must make your club owners happy....i am surprised you still have a job
ahh behold the glory of an independent contractor, who is legally entitled to entertain as she see fits as long as she doesnt violate the law.
plus a dancer who brings in money from selling champagne is really what makes the owners happy. the owners would rather we sell expensive champagne rooms to the good customers and occassionally blow off steam by berating the cheap ones who only buy a couple of beers and dont tip. if the cheap beer guys dont come back, no big deal. but selling champagne rooms into the 4digits directly boosts profit. no sensible club owner would look to get rid of me if i scared off an average of 2 customers who spend under 20$ a night when i regularly bring them a profit of several hundred a night from champagne sales.
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
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Sylvia
sorry but that is not the same....a paying customer does not come into the grocery store for the free samples....they go there to do their shopping....if free samples are available they will take them....nobody passes up a "free-be"....that does not mean the customer is obligated to buy what he has sampled....
I stated quite clearly that the customer is not obligated to buy what they sampled. Did you misunderstand my post or did you just not bother reading it
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
there should be a 'NO LOITERING' sign when you walk in the door.
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
Everyone has a different way of dealing with those no-spending customers. Some people are agressive and confrontational, some just ignore them. I don't tell them in an angry tone to get the hell out, but if they start going on about how they don't like to spend money on strippers, I will ask them why they are there and if they don't like to find a regular bar.
I make the club a lot of money-if I am in a rare pissy mood, I am well within my bounds to deal with cheap asses as I like.
Sylvia, if you want to spend time on cheap skates and lose money, that's well within your bounds. If you want to ignore them and tolerate their presence, you can do that too. I don't know why you always seem so angry and negative; a lot of your comments come across as mean. You could try phrasing them in a less negative/angry manner and still express your opinion.
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
Yes this is annoying. It doesn't really bother me if they don't come into the clubs often, but I hate it when you see a guy coming in night after night not getting dances or tipping. I have had customers say they don't get dances for various reasons but will offer me a drink.
In my old club the DJ used to make an announcement saying that the girls were freelancers and worked by doing dances, this really helped because a lot of guys don't understand that we're not raking it in 24/7.
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
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Sylvia
why should guys be obligated to buy dances?
its a bar, and if they choose to go there to eat and drink then so be it....
its kind of like going to a bar that has a band playing music....you can sit there and drink and eat and enjoy the bands music and entertainment....but you dont have to pay the band....
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Sylvia
to eat and drink and watch naked ladies i would assume....that does not mean they are obligated to pay you for it in private....kind of a stupid question really....
You cannot be a Toronto dancer. I've never, ever heard one girl talk like that in the Dressing Rooms about these men who 'don't get dances'. I refuse to believe you're a stripper.
BTW: Usually, if you go to a bar to see a band they are 1) Paid by the house to be there and/or 2) have a tip bucket, and it's expected you throw at least a couple bucks in.
Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
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Originally Posted by
Sylvia
why should guys be obligated to buy dances?
its a bar, and if they choose to go there to eat and drink then so be it....
its kind of like going to a bar that has a band playing music....you can sit there and drink and eat and enjoy the bands music and entertainment....but you dont have to pay the band....
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Re: Mr. "I don't buy dances"
um u cant compare a dancer who pays a house fee and doesnt get paid by the club to a fucking band who gets paid to play there. my god are you that stupid?
whenever i encounter one of those "i dont dance" guys i just walk away from them mid sentence. it always pisses them off.