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Re: Idea: Make Money On Members Calling Your Phone not Phone Sex!
Exactly what percent of this are you offering models.
In numbers, So the lazy can understand whats going on.
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Originally Posted by
BuffyFlame
Exactly what percent of this are you offering models.
In numbers, So the lazy can understand whats going on.
LOL...well it depends on what per minute rate the model chooses. It can go as
high as .35 USD per minute. But right now I am just trying to get a feel to see if the idea
can fit into the adult world. But everyone wants $2.99 a minute for a guy to call them
and say HI. There really is no % just how much you would like to get for incoming
calls. If the girl says she wants .99 cent for incoming calls then she needs to join a 900
service or night flirt...But if she says she wants to add the number to her profile as a
contact number and she wants .25 per minute then I may be able to work with that.
Answer every 25th call and no one is getting scammed...just they didn't call at the
right time!
Hey...the reason I am here is so that I can figure out what to offer the girls.
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I appreciate that you are trying something new, but honestly I have guys who will call for recordings or for live calls on Niteflirt and I make 65% of 99 cents for nonadult, and $2.99 for any sexual content, more than that if I include cam with the call and I can give out the # same as what you are offering.
I don't see any incentive to try this, just being honest.
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Originally Posted by
laurielegs
I appreciate that you are trying something new, but honestly I have guys who will call for recordings or for live calls on Niteflirt and I make 65% of 99 cents for nonadult, and $2.99 for any sexual content, more than that if I include cam with the call and I can give out the # same as what you are offering.
I don't see any incentive to try this, just being honest.
Honesty is the best policy...it may not work in the cam world...not a big deal
just looking for a testing ground ;)
The whole goal is I am trying to put together a package for models to put their
income on Auto Pilot. For me as a webmaster with my skilz it was not that hard
just took a little time..but for models It is not that easy.
God forbid if something happens to me and I can not work for a week or two. I
already know that I have residual and newly automatic incoming coming in.
But I know for most models if they are not on cam...then they are not making
money...my goal is to help change that for some of the girls who work for me.
To make sure that if something does happen even like getting pregnant. And
not being able to work in the later months and right after the baby is born,
then they would have some kind of form of unenployment money coming in
that they created.
I will keep on keeping on!
Im a go back to the table and see what I can come up with :)
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Re: Idea: Make Money On Members Calling Your Phone not Phone Sex!
SOME cam girls ONLY have cam to fall back on. Other cam girls have a lot of other things going on to bring in money. I am not sure that certain people will be willing to think outside the box. My 2 cents..
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Re: Idea: Make Money On Members Calling Your Phone not Phone Sex!
35 cents a minute to talk to strangers is shit. Several websites allow you to put up ads and charge much more per minute and some of them are even non sex sites.
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I offer all my guys on AW free phone. I wouldn't mind making a few cents off each of those calls. I have a dedicated line just for this because I figured that some of them would try to call me after their show. I leave the ringer off when I'm not online and sure enough I always have missed calls.
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Originally Posted by
nadia29
I offer all my guys on AW free phone. I wouldn't mind making a few cents off each of those calls. I have a dedicated line just for this because I figured that some of them would try to call me after their show. I leave the ringer off when I'm not online and sure enough I always have missed calls.
That is the exact point I am trying to make. Every girl is not trying to make it a
sex line it is a FREE Phone for guys to call you on...it just so happens that it is an
international number and they guys get charged by the tell co's for calling that
number...you just so happen to get a kick back from them calling it.
All those missed calls would just result in money being put in your pocket. Nadia
most girls would not go as far as you and dedicated a phone to their customers.
The can't even grasp the concept of doing this and how this actually can really
help their bottom line. They would be so wrapped up in the cost of paying for
another line only to let guys call that number for free...not understanding what
kind of following and loyalty that number is helping you build all while humanizing
you to your fans. Makes them feel as if they are important to you and that they
could really reach out and touch you...without the $2.99 per minute sex chat line
cost.
LOL...you have no idea how many of them probably tell their friends they got this
hot chick on speed dial!
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Originally Posted by
BustyAmeera
SOME cam girls ONLY have cam to fall back on. Other cam girls have a lot of other things going on to bring in money. I am not sure that certain people will be willing to think outside the box. My 2 cents..
You are right...getting people to think outside of the box can be an issue. Sometimes I tend to live outside the box. :O
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Originally Posted by
MarvelGirl
35 cents a minute to talk to strangers is shit. Several websites allow you to put up ads and charge much more per minute and some of them are even non sex sites.
Yet this is done everyday in free chat...for um free.
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Re: Idea: Make Money On Members Calling Your Phone not Phone Sex!
I read this post yesterday, and again today and I actually think it's a pretty neat idea. There are many different ways to utilise this service, from using the number on AW for phone bookings and cam phone chat, to allowing guys to 'book' a phone call time and pay up front.
On the other hand, what about girls that also have a Sugar Daddy but don't want to give out their number? Or an escort?
So many, many different uses for the service! I wouldn't give out this number willynilly, however I would use it as a premium service extension.
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So basically this is a free call to the guy. He doesn't pay anything additional at all. If he has an international dialing plan it just comes out to be the same rate he normally pays. But the model is getting a kick back when he dials this specific number.
Or did I get that backwards. Is he getting an additional per min charge posted on his bill per minute?
For example if he pays normally 1.50 per min for a call to call say the estonia... If I have an estonia number does he now pay for example 1.50+.35=1.85 per min?
Or is the example he pays 1.50 per min and calling my estonia number he still pays 1.50 per minute? No change to his bill , but more pocket change for me?
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Originally Posted by
cherryblossomsinspring
So basically this is a free call to the guy. He doesn't pay anything additional at all. If he has an international dialing plan it just comes out to be the same rate he normally pays. But the model is getting a kick back when he dials this specific number.
Or did I get that backwards. Is he getting an additional per min charge posted on his bill per minute?
For example if he pays normally 1.50 per min for a call to call say the estonia... If I have an estonia number does he now pay for example 1.50+.35=1.85 per min?
Or is the example he pays 1.50 per min and calling my estonia number he still pays 1.50 per minute? No change to his bill , but more pocket change for me?
Right...the price for him will be the same. Just that by routing it through these
numbers you are able to get paid for them being able to bill him.
So if he normally gets charged $1.50 to call Estonia then when he calls your
Estonia number...he will still get the same $150 charge and you get the kick
back for having him call.
Why? Think about it...if he was not calling Estonia to speak with you...then
why would he ever call...so the telecos in these countries give out kickbacks
for sending calls to their lines because they make money from this. You have
to understand that in these countries they do not have it like we do in the US.
Anytime a person calls from their landline in Estonia to a mobile number. The
landline gets charged for the call but the mobile number has free incoming calls.
So this is why the system works because calling is not flat rate in these countries.
It's call based per minute.
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Well...I think it's a good idea. My question is how many of the cam sites actually allow models to post their phone numbers for viewers to call? I know when I used to cam on cams.com, I would always have guys ask if I can call them or if they can call me. They ate it up and I got paid ZERO for offering my googlevoice number. Although I was able to get a lot of repeat clients in a very short period of time. I do attribute it to them being able to talk to you on the phone during the session. :)
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Originally Posted by
wickvid
Right...the price for him will be the same. Just that by routing it through these
numbers you are able to get paid for them being able to bill him.
So if he normally gets charged $1.50 to call Estonia then when he calls your
Estonia number...he will still get the same $150 charge and you get the kick
back for having him call.
Why? Think about it...if he was not calling Estonia to speak with you...then
why would he ever call...so the telecos in these countries give out kickbacks
for sending calls to their lines because they make money from this. You have
to understand that in these countries they do not have it like we do in the US.
Anytime a person calls from their landline in Estonia to a mobile number. The
landline gets charged for the call but the mobile number has free incoming calls.
So this is why the system works because calling is not flat rate in these countries.
It's call based per minute.
Sounds perfect to me! same price for him and more money for me always sounds like a great idea!
The amount of time I've spoken to people for free in just regular chatty discussions would yield some amazing results per min over time. So I think this idea is great. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for a sex chat unless you are raffling off your number or someone is tipping for a chat with you. This would be a way to make extra money on the call then just token drops.
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Its still to low. considering my lowest line is $1.99 and that's to degrade you for calling me. why would we really take anything less, knowing how much we CAN make?
I'm all for ideas, but i'm also about my $$$$.
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Yes but as an example say on MFC you charge 1000 for 60 mins of chat right? ok that's about 1.66 per min he pays your cut .83 per minute. then you have him call this number getting an additional .35 per min on top of that. So in 60 mins he pays $100.00 for you in 60 mins you get : $49.80+21.00=$70.80 also as typical this guy will try to just keep talking as many have been know to do but each minute you're getting an additonal .35 while he think he's getting over on giving you $0.00.
A guy typically calling for a sex conversation is not really going to spend this amount of time. He's done typically in about 3-5 minutes and even at 1.99 per minute 70% cut and .20 per minute NF TAKES OUT you get about $6.26 for 5 mins of conversation. So yes if this guy is up for 60 minutes of humiliation then sure you'll get $75.18 after he's spend about $119.40.
I just think typically if the guy is thinking it's sex then he'll spend for that and usually that alone. If he feels that you're up to just chat and talk about your day then you'll usually get much more time and money from him. Atleast that's what I've noticed that men spend more to just chat. The guy that's calling to get off spend less.
This feature would be great on MGF but sadly they don't have a call option. It's unfortunate because I've spent countless hours on their chatting for free thinking the guy would eventually spend something real but not really since their was no way to get a kick back for holding free conversations for hours with these men.
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As an example I have a submissive that I talk to daily. He spends about $3000 to $4500 on me a month. I sadly only see half of that, but he tips when he's told for the most part. I have already told him about this feature and he's looking forward to making me money.
Now currently he's been spending about 1.50 a minute to talk to me at times, other times he uses skype. But I see no income from any of this. If I got a specific number that's close to his area not only would this be cheaper for him, I make money off the call and guess what? HE HAS MORE MONEY TO SPEND ON ME!!!!
I think the only thing I'm upset about is that this didn't come out sooner. I would have made so much money over the last few months. I would kick my heels up and not cam for atleast a month.
I have NF too but those guys are not building a relationship with you mostly. They call get off and hang up. Simple easy transaction. Hell I would even use this line for friends that just want to chat that happen to be overseas!
Hell I'm going to ask the Op if my sub could have a line too because he has family all over europe and asia and yes he will be making me money while he talks to his friends and family. So yes bring it on!!
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I'm interested but think i'll need to read it through a few more times..... my brain understand's that there's oney to be made here, but can't figure out how lol
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Originally Posted by
MissKatie
I'm interested but think i'll need to read it through a few more times..... my brain understand's that there's oney to be made here, but can't figure out how lol
Here is an idea...give this number as a contact number for bill collectors :) haha
if they are willing to make International calls to try and collect :) you would
look forward to every time they call cause they would be giving you money! :D
Here is a sweet and simple solution for me.
I live in Colombia right now but from the US. I deal with people from around
the world. Therefore I calls from around the world.
If I give them my Colombian number...they get charged for calling Colombia.
If I give them mY US number they get charged for calling.
In both cases I don't get anything for them calling me.
Now if I put a St.Kits phone number on my business cards and on my websites.
Now I am getting .12 cents USD every time someone calls me. If my customer
support number is a St.Kits number and members use it...I get paid per minute.
No matter what customer service number I have...it is going to be an international
call for someone so I might as well get paid for it.
Different numbers pay different amounts per minute...because the person calling
gets charged a different price per country. You can easy find a country that will
pay you .15 to .20 cent USD per minute.
And like one model said...you can make this a contact number period. So anyone
of the net who is calling you...will make you money. Even if it goes to voicemail
they get charged so you still get paid.
If someone is going to call you form an international number you might as well get
paid. I mean if guys call you and pay $1.99 just so you can chat about the weather then great...
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Over here , ( in England ) - people who want to ring abroad, tend to route their calls through a service which will reduce their call rate to 1p -3p a minute. For example, we can call India from UK for 1p per min... We can call usa for 2p per min, I call family in Germany for 0.5p per minute !!!! I am wondering how this would work alongside your 'special money making ' number !!!
I'm not sure promoting such number in the UK without advising the caller of the charge per min , and advising via which phone line the rate will be non discounted is legal .. I can't speak for USA, but here we have codes of practice when it comes to telephone numbers, and breaking them can land you in Jail .
A few years ago , A guy had a similar type set up - he went round houses in london asking to borrow the phone to ring home , (Yes I show my age , and it was before everyone had a mobile phone ) ... The guy proceeded to ring his own money making number from 100's of houses a day ... Needless to say , he got caught and went to jail .
This idea would be great on paper , but let's say I put my 'special ' number on my website with 'call me ' ... The guys all assume they are calling a number in , let's say , Germany ... They route the call through something like 'cherry call , where they expect the call to be hugely discounted ... one of two things will happen ; Cherry call will accept the call, and let the guy phone me for 1/2p per minute as per their agreement ( in which case where is my cut coming from ) ... Or cherry call will deny the guy to call, on the basis that this is in fact not a German landline, but rather a money making phone line ...... In both cases I lose ... The former means the bill is footed by a party who are unaware they are co-operating in this ( illegal ) , or the latter happens, and the guy is denied making the call on the basis that I am a scamster --- Even worse !
Please explain how you would deal with said situation, because these points aside , I would be very interested in such a service.
( I'm sure the UK isn't the only country with these restrictions and offers in place, so it's a problem girls and customers could face inter- nation wide ! )
Cheers
Missy
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Originally Posted by
ukmissy
Over here , ( in England ) - people who want to ring abroad, tend to route their calls through a service which will reduce their call rate to 1p -3p a minute. For example, we can call India from UK for 1p per min... We can call usa for 2p per min, I call family in Germany for 0.5p per minute !!!! I am wondering how this would work alongside your 'special money making ' number !!!
I'm not sure promoting such number in the UK without advising the caller of the charge per min , and advising via which phone line the rate will be non discounted is legal .. I can't speak for USA, but here we have codes of practice when it comes to telephone numbers, and breaking them can land you in Jail .
A few years ago , A guy had a similar type set up - he went round houses in london asking to borrow the phone to ring home , (Yes I show my age , and it was before everyone had a mobile phone ) ... The guy proceeded to ring his own money making number from 100's of houses a day ... Needless to say , he got caught and went to jail .
This idea would be great on paper , but let's say I put my 'special ' number on my website with 'call me ' ... The guys all assume they are calling a number in , let's say , Germany ... They route the call through something like 'cherry call , where they expect the call to be hugely discounted ... one of two things will happen ; Cherry call will accept the call, and let the guy phone me for 1/2p per minute as per their agreement ( in which case where is my cut coming from ) ... Or cherry call will deny the guy to call, on the basis that this is in fact not a German landline, but rather a money making phone line ...... In both cases I lose ... The former means the bill is footed by a party who are unaware they are co-operating in this ( illegal ) , or the latter happens, and the guy is denied making the call on the basis that I am a scamster --- Even worse !
Please explain how you would deal with said situation, because these points aside , I would be very interested in such a service.
( I'm sure the UK isn't the only country with these restrictions and offers in place, so it's a problem girls and customers could face inter- nation wide ! )
Cheers
Missy
Damn....he did a lot of knocking...was he a Jehovah's Witness! :D
Ok, I understand your point as it is very valid. I am learning about this system
myself. And from what I see the numbers are going to be countries that you
can't use these cut rate calling services to call.
For instance most of the calls are going to what would be mobile numbers. A
few are land line but most are mobile numbers in these countries. For that
reason there are no UK numbers or US numbers. For instance can you call a
Latvia mobile for 1P, 2P or .5P? Romania? A mobile in Australia?
So chances are you would not be able to call these countries with that cut rate
calling card or calling plan. Here I will shed light on it a little more. Here are the
countries you can get numbers for:
Germany is on the list but let me tell you Germany only pays 2 cents Euros.
There are 45 Countries Land Line and Mobile and 2 Satellites.
AFGANISTAN
ALBAINIA
AUSTRALIA
AUSTRIA-MOBILE
AZERBAIJAN
BULGARIA
CAR
CHILE
CONGO
COOK ISLANDS
DOMINICA
EAST-TIMOR
EMSAT / ORATION
ESTONIA
FALKLAND ISLANDS
FRENCH-MOBILE
GERMANY
GRENADA
GUINEA BISSAU
Guinea Gamma
HONDURAS
IRAQ
IVORY COAST
JAMAICA
KIRIBATI
KOREA (NORTH)
LATVIA
LITHUANIA
MADAGASCAR
MYANMAR
NICARAGUA
NIGER
NORFOLK ISLAND
POLAND PREMIUM
ROMANIA
SAN-MARINO
SAO-TOME
SATELLITE
SEYCHELLES
SIERRA-LEONE
SOMALIA
SPAIN VOIP
ST. KITTS
TOGO
TURKEY MOBILE
TURKS AND CAICOS
ZIMBABWE
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Re: Idea: Make Money On Members Calling Your Phone not Phone Sex!
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Originally Posted by
ukmissy
Over here , ( in England ) - people who want to ring abroad, tend to route their calls through a service which will reduce their call rate to 1p -3p a minute. For example, we can call India from UK for 1p per min... We can call usa for 2p per min, I call family in Germany for 0.5p per minute !!!! I am wondering how this would work alongside your 'special money making ' number !!!
I'm not sure promoting such number in the UK without advising the caller of the charge per min , and advising via which phone line the rate will be non discounted is legal .. I can't speak for USA, but here we have codes of practice when it comes to telephone numbers, and breaking them can land you in Jail .
A few years ago , A guy had a similar type set up - he went round houses in london asking to borrow the phone to ring home , (Yes I show my age , and it was before everyone had a mobile phone ) ... The guy proceeded to ring his own money making number from 100's of houses a day ... Needless to say , he got caught and went to jail .
This idea would be great on paper , but let's say I put my 'special ' number on my website with 'call me ' ... The guys all assume they are calling a number in , let's say , Germany ... They route the call through something like 'cherry call , where they expect the call to be hugely discounted ... one of two things will happen ; Cherry call will accept the call, and let the guy phone me for 1/2p per minute as per their agreement ( in which case where is my cut coming from ) ... Or cherry call will deny the guy to call, on the basis that this is in fact not a German landline, but rather a money making phone line ...... In both cases I lose ... The former means the bill is footed by a party who are unaware they are co-operating in this ( illegal ) , or the latter happens, and the guy is denied making the call on the basis that I am a scamster --- Even worse !
Please explain how you would deal with said situation, because these points aside , I would be very interested in such a service.
( I'm sure the UK isn't the only country with these restrictions and offers in place, so it's a problem girls and customers could face inter- nation wide ! )
Cheers
Missy
Hmm thank you UKMissy
This is a great question. I was wondering about the legality of this myself. I thought maybe there was just a grand loophole and you just needed to find it. But after reading your story I now wonder if this could end up in legal issues.
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Originally Posted by
wickvid
For instance most of the calls are going to what would be mobile numbers. A
few are land line but most are mobile numbers in these countries. For that
reason there are no UK numbers or US numbers. For instance can you call a
Latvia mobile for 1P, 2P or .5P? Romania? A mobile in Australia?
Wicki- Most the countries you listed are available on the cut calling plans - We call mobiles In India, Germany etc on these plans, and a quick browse on your countries, had most of them covered.
As for Easten Europe - Lots of the Romanian girls are pretending to be from elsewhere - The last thing I want is my customers assuming I'm Romanian. It would sadly have a dire effect on my traffic .
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Originally Posted by
ukmissy
Wicki- Most the countries you listed are available on the cut calling plans - We call mobiles In India, Germany etc on these plans, and a quick browse on your countries, had most of them covered.
As for Easten Europe - Lots of the Romanian girls are pretending to be from elsewhere - The last thing I want is my customers assuming I'm Romanian. It would sadly have a dire effect on my traffic .
From what I am learning, if you try to dial these numbers from a cut rate calling plan
they will not work. So if I have a calling card or calling plan that lets me call all these
countries for .02 cents US a minute. Then when I attempt to call one of these mobiles
it will not go through.
ukmissy...you are also located in the UK i gather :D A lot of other countries can not
dial these numbers for those low rates. I know here in the US or even in Colombia
I am not able to dial most of those numbers for super cheap rates.
I can understand what you mean by giving out a Romania number...as there is a
stigma associated with Romania models unfortunately.
This idea may not work for some but again it is an idea and a possible way to
make some extra coin for some.
I am going to do some testing first with using this number as customer support for
some of my sites and a few of the sites I do billing for. Once I know more and
see how well this works or doesn't work...then I will touch up on the subject
again.
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^ Excellent , If you need any help testing the service , I'm in .
PM me , Missy .