Cultivate regulars who don't want more?
I am getting really frustrated lately by not being able to cultivate any real regulars. I feel like so many girls at my club have regulars who come in every time they work, specifically to see them - only buy dances from them (and buy a lot of dances!) I really don't think these girls are seeing these guys outside the club (at least according to them in the dressing room lol) Am I just naive or is there really a way to get regulars who want to spend all their time and money at you at the club but are ok with it only being at the club? I feel like the reason I never get regulars is because anyone who potentially likes me enough to be a regular starts immediately pushing to see me outside the club and if I don't, they lose interest in me. I know this means they're just d-bags but it's really frustrating not having a single regular who doesn't try to get into a fight every night and withhold his money because I keep refusing to see him OTC.
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You can't really push customers into becoming regulars - usually, regulars turn into regulars on their own. It can help to push them a little bit by asking them to come back and see you, and remembering little details so you can continue conversations during the following visit, but, you can't just make someone become a regular. Having a consistent schedule also helps, as then customers know when they can expect you to be working.
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It's not that I want to force people to become regulars. It's just... I feel like everyone wants to see me outside the club and can't handle it just being in the club, but the other girls around me seem to get the message across to guys that it's in the club only and maintain that dynamic. I guess I'm just wondering if there's a way to go about talking to guys and relating to them that will make them want to come back but gets the message across clearly and firmly that it's in the club only so they don't get mad when our "relationship" doesn't go outside the club.... if that makes sense lol
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How clear are you that you will never see them outside the club? Some girls thing that it can be a good idea to be a little mysterious about OTC (ie. "we just met" or "I don't know you that well yet" or "I've been burned in the past" etc.) and not explicitly say it won't happen since that can help sell dances right then and there and get some short-term regulars, but others are very clear in that the relationship will never be OTC and customers who know how clubs work and are into that appreciate the honesty. You really need to feel out each individual customer.
How long have you been dancing for? Keep in mind that girls with a big roster of regulars have usually been dancing for years and have built the regulars up over time. If you're still relatively new, don't be too discouraged about not having lots of regulars!
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I've tried it all different kinds of ways... sometimes I make vague promises of "maybe one day, if we get to know each other better" and other times been straight-up about "Sorry, I promised my bf I wouldn't meet customers from the club OTC" (thinking being upfront about everything would be best). I've tried not giving out my number but just telling them my schedule - I've tried copying another girl who keeps in touch via text.... I just don't know which works...
I've only been dancing a few months so I know it takes time to cultivate regulars. I'm just lost as to the best strategy. Guys getting really pushy about meeting outside the club, and then withholding their money once they get upset I won't see them, seems to be my forte haha Then again, I guess I shouldn't expect there to be a whole lot of gems at the strip club in terms of gentlemen lol
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There really is no best strategy since every guy's personality is so different.
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It's good that you've been trying different things, but like Optimist said, there's no best way. Pick the method that's most comfortable for you (ie. if you don't want to give out your number, don't, and if you want to be honest about their chances of getting OTC, do so) because that'll ensure that the regulars you DO cultivate are on the same page and won't be a headache to deal with. Until you can build up a big batch of em, just keep honing your hustling skills for dealing with one-off customers. That's a valuable skill to have since all regulars have a shelf life, and you can never count on them 100% for money. It's important to be able to make money in a club with customers you don't know too!
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Just as every customer is different, so are the dancers. What one girls says may sound fake, forced, or silly comming out of another girl's mouth. It takes time and diligence to figure out what things you can say or do to get customers to repond to you. Don't give up!
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The girls are right, every customer is different and different approaches work for different clients. I usually reiterate at the end of our dances how much I enjoyed his time and how I can't wait to do this again. If he did a lot of dances or a champagne room I make sure to mention sometime before the end of the dances that I keep in touch with my favorite people best by email, but I can text sometimes too. When he leaves I make a point of exchanging information. I always send a thank you text or email a few hours after seeing the guy too.
I make it clear that I'm in the club only by saying things like, "I'm just so busy" or "I'm not ready to commit" when they ask if I have a boyfriend or want to do something outside the club. I explain that it is one of the benefits of my JOB, I get to meet amazing people like him and get to have my fun/foreplay/teasing time/intimacy/whatever without having to commit to anything that may interfere with my school work.
Sometimes you are only going to get a short term customer because the honest approach will give you an immediate no, but letting him think that you really like him will at least get you some good money for a while. The trick is knowing the difference. The other trick is stretching out the time that you can keep him as a regular before he pushes for OTC time. The honesty approach works 80% of the time for the regulars I have though.
I generally use email and phone to stay in touch with regulars. I bought a cheap pay as you go phone from Target and use an unlimited text plan plus a pay as you use talk plan with it. I send maybe half a dozen total texts a day, keeping a long time between responses so he understands that I am very busy when not in the club. I also text regulars as reminders before our scheduled in the club "dates". On a slow day I'll try to text or call to get them in.
As a final tip I'd suggest that when using the honest approach, don't mention that you have a boyfriend. Knowing that a girl is taken kind of kills the "maybe someday" fantasy, even if they logically know it'll never happen anyways.