I was referring to the process as a whole NOT JUST the bus license.
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I don't believe that for one minute. Las Vegas is fabulous. We have no homeless people and no crime. Every one is super nice. We have jobs and money galore out here. No scams or anything. I have never met any strippers out here here who are on food stamps. I have 10 mansions. All from stripping not prostitution or porn - no way. It's the best. ;D I know that all of those lies about girls getting raped and sexually assaulted are false. All the bouncers and club owners are super concerned for our safety. That is why they passed a law in October of 2009 stating that owners are not responsible for anything that happens in the club. It's all the dancers responsibility.
They don't need laws or bouncers to protect naked girls who dance for drunk, horny guys. I think that any girl who allows a customer to touch her should go to jail. Lets face it's obviously her fault cause she allowed it. Just like when people get robbed it's their fault for allowing it.
I have heard there are strip clubs out here that charge anywhere from $100 - $150 in order for strippers to have access to employment to entertain the customers. But that might be false. Why would they do that? If so, wouldn't they charge bouncers, bartenders, and DJ's as well according to their idea of what they can reasonably charge?
How could bad things happen when everything is so good? I think everyone should move to Las Vegas and get a job as a stripper so that they can be super rich like me and everyone else who lives here. It's so fabulous.
And again - I can't stress the importance of renting a house from someone who is in foreclosure. I think that is a super smart plan. No way can someone get ripped off from doing that. Even though I already have 10 mansions I would love to rent a house from someone who is in foreclosure. Sounds awesome.
This kind of groundless optimism regarding the $$$ in Vegas sickens me. Sarcasim aside...Believe or don't believe what you want. The truth is Vegas sucks right now and it gets even worse in the Summer. The only thing that makes it worse is out of town girls coming in thinking they can make 3G a week and make the money that's already spread thin even thinner. There's a reason why Vegas has the highest unemployment and foreclosure rates in the nation. The truth is most clubs are hiring. Standards have slipped. They're hiring not to meet customer demand, but to reap the benefits of stealing the house fee from you before you even make a penny. Too many girls at my club leave negative.
My advice, unbiased, stay where you are. You'll likely be better off. There are so many horror stories of moving to Vegas only to run away with tails tucked between legs. Not just in the stripping industry.
So that's why the stripper to custy ratio is so great. It's because they really care. That's why all the clubs out here offer a $50 shift pay. They know for sure that you're going to make a ton of $$$ off of all the rich custys. There are always way more custys than girls. Always! They know they will make back their $50 shift pay that they give the dancers and then some.
That's why the clubs don't charge the custy's for drinks or high entrance fees. Most custys are really gullible and would probably refuse to pay for a high cover charge or high drink prices just to see naked girls. They would be scared of getting ripped off. But the really smart girls who come to Las Vegas to be super rich strippers are not gullible at all. That's why they are the only ones working at the club who pay to work. It's what I like to call - SMART INDEPENDENT SUPER RICH FREEDOM WORK.
You mean like the night club waitresses who were forced to drink at work and if they were really good night club waitresses they would get to fly to places like Saudi Arabia to have sex with the big $ custys? But I guess that did not really happen. Why would it? .
I also have to say that I get angry when I pull up to the valet at my club and see the increasing amount of out-of-state plates on dancer's cars, then those are the girls complaining in the locker room at the end of the night.
hmmmm well sounds like every other club is the same. Due to the economy clubs havent been the same...in Dallas probably not for at least 5 yrs.not saying you can't still make money, but there are less good days of the week. I appreciate all the feedback for sure. I shouldn't have to worry about getting busted or saying the wrong thing pimps or any of that drama. I have been more concerned with a safe area to stay, and good prices at hotels. And actually motel 6 in Vegas is pretty nice it's been updated and has great prices. But I also love Henderson as far as community family life. We aren't going until after my daughters bday which is July 13th. And i know I'm over a 3 or 4..I guess I don't like to give my self much credit for looks until I hear it sounds like I'm only a 3 or 4!!!!
If you just want a vacation this is a great place.
I would recomend Desert Tides. West side of the strip off of Flamingo. They are actual apartments that are billed as weekly condo rentals. They are very nice. My friend lived there. I think they are $325 a week. They are modern, clean and they have security on site. If you want to check out the clubs, make sure you go to the clubs you want to apply to as a custy and talk to the girls working so you can see for yourself before wasting $250 on liscensing and your card. Not to mention house fees. If you go as a custy at the time you would want to work you will see how many girls there are in comparison to the number of custys.
Big $ nowdays is not much even in the top clubs. But the housefees are huge. Please take our warnings seriously. It's really rough out here.
lol wow ....ok i understand everyone is entitled to their own opinion but there is a lot of false negativity. 9yler, please dont let anyone put you down or put doubt in your head. there will always be "that group" who will complain, complain, complain blame the economy, blame the bouncers, blame the tip out etc etc, girls who have no business ethic at all- girls who think all you have to do is take your top off and money falls from the sky are the ones who are NOT making 500-1500 a night.
a handful of times, i walked out of rhino with 3000 CASH. 3000 is what some people strive for MONTHLY. I just came back from a 2 month work spree and boy, am i estactic! im back east enjoying my earnings- taking a whole month off from dancing MAYBE cam here and there..im not blonde, in fact im black, i dont have big boobs, in fact i have almost none- all this scamming, pimping and etc thats bought up here, only happens to girls who let the business run them. this business is beautiful because WE run it.
yes the tip out is high- girls all over the nation want to be at the rhino so of course the tip out will be high. yes its already the boucers job to take care of us but i dont mind tipping those who have my back because once you build that relationship, the bouncers will ALWAYS take care of you and give you insider tips. a lot of times, the customers communicate with boucers and the boucers will communicate to YOU, who has the cash and whos there for what. and its worth it.
i read in someones reply about someone holding their money but ended up stealing it....who ever that happend to deserved it. who in their right mind will let anyone hold hundreds of dollars for them!?!?!? money up front always and stays in your possesion THEN lets do business. you do not do business then wait for your money- you get your money first. common sense!!!
would you let someone you dont know- dont know their name, address, or even phone number drive off with your ferrari then expect to be paid??! i mean cmon!
If Vegas is that horrible, why even work/live there? Just curious. If I were to work in an area with money potential that bad, i'd leave in a heart beat.
I have no doubt that it's hard in the summer, bc I got a little dose of it working there for a bit 2 years ago in the summer(about 7 shifts, I think?). But it can't be that bad in other seasons?? Right?
Summer every where is slow, for what it seems.
Do clubs in vegas allow dancers under 21?
That sucks. :(
Bitter? No matter how annoying it is to you - what happened - actually did happen. No one deserves to be scammed, or pimped, or raped, or stolen from. No one.
Most people are aware that the average person who wants to be a broadway star or a super model will not become one. However a few people do. Most people are aware that it would be incredibly naive to move to LA to become a famous movie star. However a there are a few people who actually do become famous movie stars.
Whenever I hear someone trying to convince girls to go to Vegas to be a "super rich stripper" - I am automatically suspicious. Why - because girls who are making great money don't want to have a huge glut of girls coming in to spread it thin. So whenever I hear come to ______ it's the best- big big $$$- I make so much $$$- you can too. I know something is not right.
If there is such big $$ why can't they afford to pay at least a $50 base to the dancers? With all that big $$ why not? The reason they charge the gullible girls $100 or more up front is because they know you are an easy target. If the $$ is so great why don't they charge custys $100 to get in? It's because the custys are not that gullible. If the $$ is so great- why don't they charge $50 for housemoms, cashiers, bouncers, bathroom attendents, and dj's to work? All those people make minimum wage or work on tips only. That is why they have "mandatory tip outs". They don't care if you walk in the negative. Just another gullible girl who paid her $100 house fee to the billionaire club owner. Thanks.
To suggest that it is annoying or innappropriate for me or others to discuss reality is in itself - annoying and completely innappropriate. The people who prey on gullible girls never want those girls to think or ask questions about reality. Anyone who does is called bitter etc...
Reality is real. Nothing more nothing less. You can call me, and other truth tellers "evil bitter liars" all you want. But the truth is still the truth. Denial never changed anything for anyone at anytime.
Loren, but that's how it is in NYC too as far as tip-outs. The object is to make enough to where that tip out doesn't seem like much in comparison.
wow. I want to respond to loren but I can't even think of how to begin responding. I love how you backtracked earlier loren and said you were just claiming this lady would not make a lot of money when I picked apart your post, that some of those stories were word of mouth and probably exaggerated....
and now you are RIGHT BACK to saying all vegas girls are going to get scammed, pimped, raped and stolen from.
you ALREADY ADMITTED you have never danced at one of the bigger clubs in LV so you obviously have no personal experience to back up your wild claims. I am in LV right now visiting and have been dancing for almost a month here and have not had any of those problems.
I just...yeah. omg its not even worth posting again. any girl who believes you deserves to miss out on Vegas anyway. That being said any girl who comes down here thinking she will make 3k in a weekend deserves the disappointment.
Its not AWESOME
Its not HORRIBLE
Its JUST LAS VEGAS
I KNOW! Loren, you've given me the laugh of the day. Beautifully done, 'cause we all HAVE to be lying about there being complete scumbags all over town. Vegas is really like Disneyland all safe and cozy and shit! :yes: :rotfl:
The bouncer who got shot after NBA All Star was just a rumor too! ;)
^ Preeettty sure she was being sarcastic...
All I am saying is there are scumbags in every town and I think she is exaggerating quite a bit. Portland OR is a really small city that is pretty safe to dance in and guess what, a bouncer got shot at my club last year, another club had a stabbing recently, another had a bouncer get in a knife fight and had his finger get cut off.
There are clubs where the managers are creeps and make girls sleep with them for shifts. There is a club where the owner forces girls to keep their tips behind the bar and skims off the top when the girls are drunk. Some clubs charge ridiculous house fees and a few girls go home having paid the club to be there every week. I have more than one friend who has had her drink drugged. I have had more than one customer attempt to follow me home.
I still DO NOT go around saying OMG DONT COME TO PORTLAND ALL KINDS OF HORRIBLE THINGS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU!
Shit happens. We work in a hazardous industry and girls need to be careful, but that doesnt mean everyone is going to get raped scammed and drugged. It also means that Vegas is like everywhere else. We are strippers. and fucked up shit happens. We should all be appropriately cautious, but there is no need to panic and live in fear.
Done with this thread now :-X
Try this on for size. These are excerpts from a recent story on the local news to consider. This is what it is. Feel free to ignore the hundreds of stories and see them as isolated. I have nothing to gain by alerting you, OP, because I make my money elsewhere. Your presence won't help or hurt me and I'm a seasoned vet of this business who routinely outearns girls far younger because I'm not bitter--just realistic.
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/140781...use-in-lawsuit
It is not exactly a revelation that drug use is widespread in Las Vegas nightclubs. After all, people come here to party. But there is nothing casual about substance abuse described in the explosive lawsuit that alleges booze and drug use that is systemic. It was not only tolerated but condoned by management, according to Jane Doe, who was promoted into the pulse pounding madness of Jet, a nightclub at Mirage as a cocktail server.
She says she was taught how to entice customers into spending more money. The lawsuit alleges the female employees were encouraged to drink and do drugs and have sex with high-rolling customers -- not just celebrities, but with anyone who spends big money.
"Touching, grabbing, lots of verbal sexual harassment that comes off as joking. And that's what they do, make harassment funny. Use it as a joke so every situation is lightened so someone taps your ass, sorry. Then later, they squeeze it and it started out as a smack," she said. "They do it so often that, like everything else like the drug use, it becomes normal. So you forget that it's not supposed to go on and its inappropriate because you see it every day and it happens to you every day."
"This is their business plan. This is not just one rogue employee, it's from the owner on down through the hosts and the managers. Everyone is engaged in this activity and they all make it clear to these girls that if you don't do what we want, you will be fired because there's 50 other girls waiting to take your place," said Marquis. "This is a company that exploits young women by using alcohol and cocaine, the lure of the glamour, they get to dress up and party, be with famous people, and it all sounds good to a 19-year-old solicited to work there. And after awhile, they lose all sense of reality. Everyone there is drinking and everyone is using cocaine, getting groped and molested in this place and it seems normal to young girls who haven't been around long enough to know they can say no."