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Side work with either Gods Girls or Suicide Girls
Hello! I'm pretty new, but took a few days to lurk around. Gotta say I love the opinions that are so honest and fresh around here!
What I was wondering about was whether or not Gods Girls or Suicide Girls make decent money? I know it's nothing compared to camming, but I already have a pretty good gig on MFC ranking in the top two hundred every month.
I just want something that's more like a side project, but I don't want to do it if there's absolutely no money there.
I heard Suicide Girls are really really large now. Is it possible to still make a few hundred dollars a month there? Is Gods Girls big enough to generate traffic?
Your opinions on these sites would be greatly appreciated :)
Thanks!
XO LoverCam
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Unless things have changed, Suicide Girls only make $600 per shoot. Ever. However, once you get your photos up, and you are accepted, you can say you are a Suicide Girl, and use that to your advantage in terms of networking and getting your name out there. It would probably help a lot with camming, and would def help get you situated in the industry. I don't know anything about God's Girls, to be honest....
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Stay away from SG, they seriously are some of the lowest of the low when it comes to business ethics. The state of California actually forced them to re-write their contracts... they were totally illegal & the court battles that ensued caused talent (particularly photographers) to lose thousands of dollars. Some even had to sell their equipment to raise money to be able to pay a lawyer to represent them in court for frivolous lawsuits.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22su...ient=firefox-a
Particularly look at the case between Philip Warner (Lithium Picnic) vs. Suicide Girls on:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22su...ient=firefox-a
I was really active on Deviant Art when that all started going down & Philip was a member there. Talk about a bunch of BS! SG tried firing him for photographing his own wife (Apnea)!
He was auctioning off his equipment left & right to fight them in court. SG is really scummy.
If you want to shoot that style, contact photographers like Lithium Picnic, or Ken Marcus... they are both very much in the "know".
Other places you may want to consider would be:
BlueBlood.net
DeviantNation Site doesn't seem to be active, but that could be a server error or they may have really disappeared.
Zivity
I'd also suggest you read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt_porn
Burning Angel is decently well respected, & may be another you would want to contact.
Most of those co-op sites though like DN, GG, BB really don't produce much income for the models or the photographers.
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Originally Posted by
Kylea2
Stay away from SG, they seriously are some of the lowest of the low when it comes to business ethics. The state of California actually forced them to re-write their contracts... they were totally illegal & the court battles that ensued caused talent (particularly photographers) to lose thousands of dollars. Some even had to sell their equipment to raise money to be able to pay a lawyer to represent them in court for frivolous lawsuits.
Truth!
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I'd LOVE to be a suicide girl!!!! Got no tats tho :(
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You are lucky I can't demote points. Not to be mean, but why would you want to work with a company that has poor business ethics?
Stay in touch with me though... I have considered something you may like. Actually forgot about it until just now.
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Kylea2
You are lucky I can't demote points. Not to be mean, but why would you want to work with a company that has poor business ethics?
Stay in touch with me though... I have considered something you may like. Actually forgot about it until just now.
Who were you directing that at? lol
I already model so working for SG would be yet more exposure. Don't think it's possible though as i'm not really alternative looking, not anymore anyway, just a bit gothy. Probably too old too ::)
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Thanks for all the answers guys!! Yeah, I can't believe all the legal issues Suicide Girls have been having. Too bad its shit because it "seems" like a great site to work with.
Burning Angel definitely looks good, but it seems like there's alot more b/g action, and I really just want to keep solo or g/g.
Gods Girls looks really amazing for a side gig, but I'm just not sure because you never know if they are similar to SG! This may be the site that I try..
Decisions decisions!!!
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I was accepted to be on SG about 4 years ago when they were only paying $200/$300 *cant remember which*a set. Any 'content' you make for them is 100% theres forever and they expect you to be 'active' in their community blogging and such. For me it just wasnt worth it even when i was a starving college student lol Maybe things have changed.
I've heard much better things about godsgirls and burning angel but it depends on the image your trying to produce.
@MissKatie, i was tatt-less at the time mostly super girl next door with some fun pericings but my pics where a bit alt-y
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MissKatie
Who were you directing that at? lol
I already model so working for SG would be yet more exposure. Don't think it's possible though as i'm not really alternative looking, not anymore anyway, just a bit gothy. Probably too old too ::)
At you, in jest of course.
Anyhow, there are far better companies to be working with. SG is way to sue happy & at this point could do more harm than good to a model's reputation.
Also, just because you don't have tattoos doesn't mean you can't be alternative looking. You just need the right hair style, makeup, apparel, body paint, & the attitude for it.
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Why don't you ask some of the girls who worked for Gods Girls in the past ?
They're easy to find.
Last year Gods Girls were telling models that money was tight and the site was in trouble and could models please be so kind as to donate FREE picture sets.
Nuff said !
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theres no long term money in it. i used to be an alt model for several sites. its all one off. unles your doing porn on burning angel its not worth it.
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LoverCam
Thanks for all the answers guys!! Yeah, I can't believe all the legal issues Suicide Girls have been having. Too bad its shit because it "seems" like a great site to work with.
Burning Angel definitely looks good, but it seems like there's alot more b/g action, and I really just want to keep solo or g/g.
Gods Girls looks really amazing for a side gig, but I'm just not sure because you never know if they are similar to SG! This may be the site that I try..
Decisions decisions!!!
Modeling for alt-porn sites should only be "for fun" and not relied on as a main source of income. Whether a site pays a lot or a little for a photo set, it works out to be pretty much the same amount of money. Higher paying sites accept fewer sets, lower paying sites accept more sets.
I know a few girls on SG who are literally afraid to stop modeling for them because of seriously shady business- and I don't just mean the lawsuits. :-\
The best advice I have is to REALLY do your research before committing to any site. Treat it like you would if it were a camsite, or a club!
Anyway, I model for GodsGirls, so if anyone has questions about the site feel free to shoot me a PM!
;)
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I was a SG back in 2006 just to get some extra cash for college. Didn't like it due to all their sneaky practices.
I should try out again something similar, but not SG, so I can pay off my credit card.
Dancing is really bad right now (summer is terrible in Va), plus I had a medical procedure (not plastic surgery) that forbid me from dancing until I'm completely recovered (about two more months).
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If you use the search function, somewhere else around here I posted a snippet of SG's modeling contract. Too lazy to hunt it for myself though lol
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yeah this girl who stayed with me last year was a god's girl. she had several sets up and showed them to me. she had been doing this for several months. she never made a penny. i found this to be so strange.
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princesstyland
yeah this girl who stayed with me last year was a god's girl. she had several sets up and showed them to me. she had been doing this for several months. she never made a penny. i found this to be so strange.
GG's payments are net90. That means there is a waiting period from the time a set goes live until the check gets sent out. At first I thought it was really lame, but after being there a while it made perfect sense. A lot of girls will sign up, submit a set or two, and then decide they want their profile removed (a family member found out, job found out, etc.). The site allows models to have all of their content removed from the website if they ever decide they want to; the models just have to buy them back. So basically the net90 payments are there to save a lot of trouble for the girls who end up deciding they want to be removed from the site.
On the other hand, models can donate their sets to the website if they want. That might sound crazy, but the girls who do this aren't in it for the money. One of the models who is really popular with the members there has donated every single one of her sets! Hence her model name, Charity. :)
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Jay12
I was a SG back in 2006 just to get some extra cash for college. Didn't like it due to all their sneaky practices.
What was your name on there? I had a membership back then!
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I did a set for SG back in 2007.
HAAAATTTEEEE the pictures, really surprised they made it live. Probably because Amina (one of their 'main' SG at the time) took them. :/
Got $500, and some free merchandise.
That's about as far as that went....
Tried applying to be a GG, but kept getting rejected. Dunno if it has anything to do with me being on SG.
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I thought suicide girls was where you get a one time fee...500-600 and they keep your content and resell it as long as they want...that's just waht I heard from a friend who is a suicide girl. Of course, I dont know if thats correct or all the details; she was just telling me that a few months ago and really was unhappy with them...
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Originally Posted by
Jay12
I was a SG back in 2006 just to get some extra cash for college. Didn't like it due to all their sneaky practices.
I should try out again something similar, but not SG, so I can pay off my credit card.
Dancing is really bad right now (summer is terrible in Va), plus I had a medical procedure (not plastic surgery) that forbid me from dancing until I'm completely recovered (about two more months).
Jay12, could you post links or pics? I'd love to see your SG photos. :)
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_Avery_
I did a set for SG back in 2007.
HAAAATTTEEEE the pictures, really surprised they made it live. Probably because Amina (one of their 'main' SG at the time) took them. :/
Got $500, and some free merchandise.
That's about as far as that went....
Tried applying to be a GG, but kept getting rejected. Dunno if it has anything to do with me being on SG.
Nah, I doubt it has anything to do with being a former SG. A lot of the girls that left SG ended up at GodsGirls, but with different names. Katie: Kate, Apnea: Apneatic, Shera: Catra, etc. etc. etc. As long as you're not still actively modeling at SG, it shouldn't be a problem... Because I know their contract has stuff about non-competition. And well, legal trouble just plain sucks.
But yeah, pretty much every girl I can think of that models for GG got rejected at least once. Shoot, I got rejected my first time applying. There's a lot of helpful info in their forum, a section "ladies in waiting," that talks about what they're looking for and stuff. Or you can just send me a PM- I'm always willing to help! :)
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Thanks for all the useful information you guys!
I need some more alt clothing and accessories and take my first alt set! I have plain jane long dark brown hair so I was going to get some good quality colorful clip in hair extensions, and I already have a large back tattoo. I'm really excited because alt porn is soooo beautiful in my opinion!! I feel like I may really let my artistic alter ego really shine if I get accepted to GG's. *Can't wait to dye my hair red again*
*dances around*
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Kylea2
DeviantNation Site doesn't seem to be active, but that could be a server error or they may have really disappeared.
They've been gone for a while now. They were an excellent site, okay pay and decent to models so it's too bad.
Also, last I heard GodsGirls paid $60 a set. No thanks!
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Has anybody ever heard about how Dangerous Dolls is?