Anyone have any experience with LiveCamNetwork.com? They offer an hourly payrate for free chat so I am curious. Just want some feedback about pay out so I know they are legit before I waste my time...
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Anyone have any experience with LiveCamNetwork.com? They offer an hourly payrate for free chat so I am curious. Just want some feedback about pay out so I know they are legit before I waste my time...
they never paid me and then ignored all my emails and phone calls. id say stay away from them.
they payed me,always in time.the only problem with them is you have to pvt too.if u dont have pvts at all they will take the free chat payment.They have some rules,like you have to use your microphone in free chat,but they never missed a payment.my best friend work there too and she always received the money.i know gina has a problem with them,a charge back,but it can happen everywhere.all sites have charge back,some cover them some no.my advice is try it ,maybe you will make good money from pvts too.
i work there but im about done with it. the politics are bullshit and some of the models are mods. think about how well that works out o.O
replied on the other thread too but yep thanks ladies I am going to steer clear. Just gonna stick with imlive and niteflirt because I have been doing well, especially a new niteflirt account ive been marketing is starting to take off in a big way this past week....
that and the $$ I make shakin my thang at the club and there is no need to waste my time on some drama filled site with bad $
and yes, I am a work-a-holic. or a ho-a-holic you could say.
I've worked for them on and off for a few years, NEVER had any problems... always payed me on time, the owner, the members, and models are all really great. What I love most about working there is yes you get paid hourly and their community. They have message boards and it's fun to chat with all the members and models. The only con side about it is the traffic isn't as good as some of the mainstream sites (obv) but they're always working on advertising and promoting. Also I read someone else here had some neggative issues with Mark, the owner of the site, but I personally don't have one bad thing to say. He's really good at getting back to my emails and also reactivates my account after I go MIA for a few months lol. If anyone has any questions about the site or wants to reach him you can at [email protected]. Hope this helps!! :-*
I was sent a link to this thread by another girl who works at LCN and I wanted to add my undervalued American pennies...I've often called LCN my second home, just read some of my threads on the forum there. I guess that's the main reason I'm posting this. I hate someone dogging my house when I've lived there for such a long time and never had a issue like what's been described above.
I've worked on LCN for over 5 years now and it's great, IMHO. It's different than any site I worked on before (and the few I've tested out since coming to LCN).
It's a community, not just a flesh-fest. Most of the models I've worked with who actually take the time to read the training manual and do things like TALK instead of type and actually interact with the chatters, stay on the site for at least 2-3years. There are a couple that have been there for 6 and 7years.
For over 3 years I worked at the main studio. Loved being able to hang out with all the other girls when we weren't online. Go dancing, party at each other's homes or even bake cookies together at xmas! I totally miss the atmosphere around there.
I've never not gotten a paycheck. Even when I moved to a different country! Company checks by mail and then Wire transfers directly into my bank account and the cost is less than half of previous sites. Every other site I'd ever worked for charged me at least 30, some over 50, and with some it was depending on the wire amount...anything over a certain $ amount got an increased fee, sort of thing. No thanks. I'll stick to a low, flat rate. LOL
The only "bad paycheck situation" that I am aware of was when a model went to cash at a check cashing place right after the company checks switched from 2Much(the parent company) to LCN as the Employer and they wouldn't accept it...that isn't LCN's fault, that was the check cashing joint worker being lazy and not verifying the Employer. She was paid cash out of the owner's pocket the next day that she came in to the studio.
GingerGina, lemme know what your Screenname was on LCN and I'll see if I can find out the details of you not getting paid. I'm happy to check into it for you, if you like.
Alexxia had a good point about how things used to work with being paid for Free Chat. If a model didn't make sales, she lost that free chat pay starting the next pay week. But honestly...if someone isn't going to sell private time, then why Should they be paid to sit on their butt in free?
Nowadays, only the models who have good conversion rates are eligible to get the bonus of being paid for free chat, I believe. Since most other webcam sites that I've worked for didn't even offer that, I don't see it as a downside, I see it as motivation to SELL private time! Ya make a lot more in private than in free anyway.
There is a lower amount of traffic on LCN. There is also a heck of a lot less competition! I'm more than happy to compete with less girls online at the prime times. There are some awesome regulars and I make a lot more money!
That's why I've stayed so long. LOL
As for models being mods, we don't have "mods" in the usual sense, on LCN. I'd like to understand what Crispy meant by "think about how well that works out".
For the record, I run two of the websites that are part of the LCN network and I am a model on the main LCN site. Part of my job as a studio manager is to train models. Another part is having other sites' owners ask me to look in on their models and help them out, if they need it. I guess you could call that being a mod, if you like. How is that a bad thing???
The studio manager for LCN has ALWAYS been a model, too. I'd much rather have another model who knows what she's doing be the one to train me and to tell me if I'm doing something wrong than to have some guy who has no clue spouting off about being a good performer when he's never been one and never will be. Wouldn't you?
I am one of the ones who sometimes goes in to a new model's room to welcome her and say hello and invite her to stop by my room, anytime she likes. I go into the rooms of my friends, too, and as long as I show every model the respect of keeping the focus of attention ON HER(which I do expect in return), then normally it's a welcome thing. If it looks/sounds like she is uncomfortable with me being there..I leave. Simple as that and that is how I train new models to be. I really dig the fact that there isn't the backstabbing "she's a bitch, come to my room" attitude in the rooms on LCN that there was on other sites I worked for.
I love that it's a community of models and chatters who can have fun hanging out in a room together or BSing on the forum. It's not all "Hey BB, Show Tits" and nobody talks to each other in the chat rooms. I log in, the first few people show up and then everyone else who joins the room gets a hello not only from me, but from the other guys already in the room and when I'm not in private, we have some interesting/silly/strange/controversial/whatever the night brings group conversations.
If you don't talk by voice when you are online, if you don't like to interact with your chatters unless you're in a private room, if you don't like the "feel" of that type of community...ok, no harm, no foul...it's prolly not the right place for you. I will suggest the same thing here that I suggest to every new model that I train to work on LCN...create a User account and check out the atmosphere of the chat rooms FIRST. If it's not your cuppa, no big and I hope you're happy whereever ya land.
Cheers all and good luck whereever you are!
Kedra
I know on LCN in their agreement they say if you don't make money they will take it from the free chat or however it works...
Good to see you here Kedra.Like i always said i dont like when people say rubbish about some sites without even working there or having any clues about.About free chat payment,i dont see the point a site will pay you 13.5$per hour as long as you dont have any pvt at all.Even i didnt have lots of pvt ,LCN payed me and always on time.The best way to see how a site work and what is all about it is to try it.What the other guy said ,about his business with Mark its not my problem and i dont think it should be any models problems what happen between the owner and his partners(webmasters) as long as he pay the models in time and he never missed any payments.So for the future it will be nice if someone doesnt know anything about a site to dont post.
This is wasn't just a camgirls section. We have webmasters and all. This is the OTHER WORK section. it does apply to us. It damn sure applies to me. I'm not sure if you ladies ever been on a forum before, but we are not forced into threads. If you happen to come into one you don't agree on, state your piece and go. But never act is if someones post is irrelevant, that's where you lose.
haha i cant imagine any situation where other models being "model trainers" or whatever sillyness you want to call it is a good thing.
one of your fellow model admins liked coming into my room and making catty comments to me and then leaving.
i will say i never had a problem getting paid, or with mark, but theres too many other things going on at that place that is rediculous and not worth bothering with. you can make 13 an hour easy on streamate. i guess if you have no hustle skills what so ever and cant market yourself its a great place to work.
It says that if you don't maintain your sales that you will no longer be paid for your time in Free Chat.
They don't deduct pay because you aren't making sales, they stop paying you to be in Free Chat when you aren't selling. Just like any other job, they don't pay you to do nothing.
I knew that was you!!! Hugs Beautiful! I miss ya so much!Quote:
Originally Posted by alexxia32
You think it's a better idea to have some random site owner telling you why you aren't doing well? I'm sorry but some guy who's never taken his clothes off and masturbated for a customer is not someone who knows what he's talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by crispy
The only models who train other models on LCN are the ones who are good converters and have been online as cam performers for a long time. How is helping out the other girls who work with you to make more money bad? I guess that's what I don't understand.
^ Fail Fail. Models as moderator/moberator.. FAIL!
A couple of months ago I signed up for the site and was accepted. I had emailed them several times about a question regarding my profile and not once did they even bother to respond. That was it for me. Instead of the models/moderators worrying so much about what other models are doing in their rooms, they need to be more concerned about taking the time to respond to legitimate inquiries regarding the site.
Well this was an interesting read ... and I very much enjoyed seeing Kedra on here :).
I was on LCN for a few months. I joined SC and now I do camming through SC instead of LCN but I'm still part of the community and everything is the same except how I get paid :p. LCN and SC have some sort of agreement between the two.
I didn't realize they paid hourly ... they never paid hourly for me and I certainly got enough privates. I thought they just paid hourly for the studio models.
I don't see anything wrong with the models being moderators. They do a great a job too! I mean, models have more skills than just models, right? Xev trained me at the beginning and she did an awesome job :). I am glad that there was a bit of training at the beginning because she told me some things I never would have figured out until later! I am very VERY glad that she helped me out!
The community is really nice too ... it's so friendly ... and most of the chatters are awesome! I've also never had a chargeback through them, maybe I'm lucky? I'm pretty happy about that.
If you sign up on it to do webcamming and you get their rates for privates and groups, then you're fine. Getting money for free chat is just a bonus!
All in all, they pay pretty well. Great community. Small yes but it's a nice community feel. Yes you need to talk by voice which I think is fine, why not? The girls are almost always friendly. If they aren't friendly or if they are mean or something, Mark will talk to them or ban them or whatever. All the models I have talked with have been really nice.
Sometimes it feels like some of the girls that post comments here were actually the owner of the website or the studio trying to promote their site. The only time you see their post is when they talk about a site that has so many negative reviews and they make it look like awesome, and everything is explain in detail.
Im not buying it...
I can assure you that I'm simply a model ... if you want to check out my page it is here: http://cam.livecamnetwork.com/cgi-bi...s.cgi/innessc1
I don't work directly for them except doing the webcam stuff.
I just don't want it to get bad reviews because I never had any problems with it :P
But everyone can have their own opinion.
And the site isn't for everyone :P :)
The whole thing about models being moderators is that it takes away the equality between models. Kind of like the SM party chat thing that is going on now. Only could you imagine if the party chat girls were moderators? They already say things like "the favorite SM girls are the only ones who get the feature". Certainly having model moderators strikes an insane power imbalance which is never good. No way.
Also I think it's crappy that any model should feel she has to "train" another, unless it is asked. Just because I'm new to the site doesn't mean that I need to be trained on how to cam. You don't know if I've been camming for 3 years, 7 years, 10 years! You don't know if I have a personal site that is booming, or if I make thousands per week in indy sales, or what? It's pretty condescending to just assume you know more than the next model when you don't even know her, model moderator or not!
So many girls like to just try different sites out. You never know who you're dealing with.
Additionally, I feel like most of the sites that pay per hour do so because the site they want you to sell on is pure shit. If the site had paying traffic, english speaking customers, protection against chargebacks, customers with actual credit cards on file, features that men and girls both enjoy, and girls were doing well there naturally, there'd be no need to lure women in with the promise of hourly pay in the first place because well... they'd already be making the money!
I mean it's really not rocket science.
ETA: and just because one or two girls makes an insane amount of money on a crappy platform does not discredit the fact that it's a crappy platform. Of course there always has to be a 1st place, 2nd place and 3rd place with anything. But when you have only one or two girls who have good experiences and the rest have complaints, it's a flawed business. Bottom line.
So I have a quick question about the site. Although I haven't gone there and read any rules, etc., do you have the ability to block states and do the BBW models do well there?
I feel I may need a new avenue for my afternoon camming time.
Well I just answered part of my own question. On the website it states they want "slim and athletic". I guess big and beautiful is out.
I was in there for a few days. But after 2 days they took my hourly away saying I didn't make enough sales. Ummmm making reg money as the new chick on a "community" cam site is next to impossible. But they Did pay me for that time. But I prob won't go back now because it's not worth my time without the hourly pay.