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Selling Used Panties/Items
Yes, I have used the search function. I have not found the exact answer to my question.
I know how to go about receiving the money (Alertpay, Cam Sites, Gift Cards) and how to package them. (Bubble Mailers, Ziplock baggies, Vaccum sealed, etc) But my confusion has always been on the specifics of going down and getting a PO BOX.
I read that USPS, someone can always look up who owns a PO BOX and it's completely legal. I have also heard of one girl getting caught and having to go to jail for selling "soiled undergarments"
So can I send panties with the senders address as the return address? How do I make this completely anon on my end??
I heard UPS was as good as gold but whenever I have gone down to use UPS for CL or whatever they have gone through the computer, looked up my account was very specific about my package. Would they just accept no return address? I wouldn't know what to say if the person at the desk started to bombarde me with questions about my package, where it is going, what's in it, etc.
Will they sell a PO Box to me if I ask for a fake name to be put on it? I do not have a biz license though.
For those who have personally sold panties/other items what have you done ladies?
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What I do is put a fake addy and use stamps and just put it in the box at the post office. If mailing from the USA you can only do this if it's under 16 ounces (panties usually are).
For international you can use the international priority mail envelopes if under 16 ounces and just pop it in the box. Over 16 ounces you have to mail in person and fill out customs forms. I refuse to mail anything that I have to do that for.
I won't mail anything like that in person and there is no way I'm revealing my address, not even a po or ups box.
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This thread might be helpful for you:):
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I haven't actually sold a pair of panties yet, but when I'm mailing stuff to MFC guys (I sent my highest May tipper panties with his name on them + a photo), I just use a regular bubble envelope (they sell them in packs of 2 at Dollar Tree) or a white photo/document mailer (also sold in packs of 2 at Dollar Tree). I put the guy's address and stamps on it, but I never put a return address.
BUT if you're taking something to the post office (or The UPS Store), they require you have a return address and/or your full name on the envelope. I was a lil' pissed when I first found that out. I think I ended up using the address of some business in the area. :P I sure as hell wasn't gonna put my address on there.
I don't drive, and the post office is a short bus ride away, and The UPS Store near me is too pricey. The only time I use the post office or The UPS Store is if I'm mailing heavier/fragile items (like these photo glass coasters), or if I need to rush a shipment.
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So given the whole "PayPal is a NONO" rule of thumb, I have a question...
the girls on eBanned who are selling worn panties, etc. and accepting PayPal from these guys...how are they pulling this off without worrying about PayPal suspending/fining them? Are they just making it look like they're selling a "normal" item to a customer? And if PayPal were to contact them to have them verify (I've read on here that someone actually did get a call from PayPal about this), would they just play it off and pretend it's a "regular" panty sale.
It sucks about the PayPal policy, because sooo many people have PayPal and it's so convenient.
As far as eBanned and sites like that, I was just planning on accepting AlertPay or even Payoneer since I have accounts with both. I'm sure I'll miss out on a lot of money since lots of guys will probably insist on paying via PayPal, but I don't want to risk it and end up suffering serious consequences.
I know that a lot of girls are offering Amazon gift cards as a form of payment (I've done this a couple times in exchange for cam shows), but I don't wanna be doing that, because as much as I love Amazon, that's not gonna pay my bills...MONEY is. :P
Also, the well-concealed cash (I've seen girls listing that as a payment option) isn't an option for me, because I don't have a p.o. box and am not planning on getting one.
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Originally Posted by
TheBrownFox
So given the whole "PayPal is a NONO" rule of thumb, I have a question...
the girls on eBanned who are selling worn panties, etc. and accepting PayPal from these guys...how are they pulling this off without worrying about PayPal suspending/fining them? Are they just making it look like they're selling a "normal" item to a customer? And if PayPal were to contact them to have them verify (I've read on here that someone actually did get a call from PayPal about this), would they just play it off and pretend it's a "regular" panty sale.
It sucks about the PayPal policy, because sooo many people have PayPal and it's so convenient.
As far as eBanned and sites like that, I was just planning on accepting AlertPay or even Payoneer since I have accounts with both. I'm sure I'll miss out on a lot of money since lots of guys will probably insist on paying via PayPal, but I don't want to risk it and end up suffering serious consequences.
I know that a lot of girls are offering Amazon gift cards as a form of payment (I've done this a couple times in exchange for cam shows), but I don't wanna be doing that, because as much as I love Amazon, that's not gonna pay my bills...MONEY is. :P
Also, the well-concealed cash (I've seen girls listing that as a payment option) isn't an option for me, because I don't have a p.o. box and am not planning on getting one.
I'm really strapped for $$$ until I get my check and as much as i would looove to use Paypal right now, it's just too damn risky. I WISH guys would get into the swing of using Alertpay, but girlS ARE STILL accepting Paypal so these guys aren't getting used to using a different payment processor
I'll take Amazon GC AFTER I have paid my bills. Until then I tell all of the guys to just suck it up and use alertpay or they don't get shit from me. Haha!
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Paypal is a no-no for everything :p
I got a PO Box. I think that's necessary if you're going to be doing transactions like that.
I just started selling panties. I haven't mailed out my first set yet but will be soon. This is what I do
Customer mails you cheque or concealed cash for panties using your PO Box. I also have them fill out an adult form basically saying that they want the item and they are of age. I'm not sure if the adult consent form is necessary for panties but I'd rather be safe than sorry!
Once the panties are ready, I will put them in a zip log bag and then put gift wrapping paper around them. Then put them in a bubble wrap envelope. To: their name and address. From: your PO Box address. You do not have to put your name on it! Just your address. They have your PO Box number. Same with when you get it mailed to you. Don't let them put your name on it. Just have them put the address! That works just fine.
I just plan to send it through regular mail.
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Originally Posted by
innes
Paypal is a no-no for everything :p
I got a PO Box. I think that's necessary if you're going to be doing transactions like that.
I just started selling panties. I haven't mailed out my first set yet but will be soon. This is what I do
Customer mails you cheque or concealed cash for panties using your PO Box. I also have them fill out an adult form basically saying that they want the item and they are of age. I'm not sure if the adult consent form is necessary for panties but I'd rather be safe than sorry!
Once the panties are ready, I will put them in a zip log bag and then put gift wrapping paper around them. Then put them in a bubble wrap envelope. To: their name and address. From: your PO Box address. You do not have to put your name on it! Just your address. They have your PO Box number. Same with when you get it mailed to you. Don't let them put your name on it. Just have them put the address! That works just fine.
I just plan to send it through regular mail.
A p.o. box might be a good idea for some, but you can mail certain items yourself and just not put a return address. I've done it plenty of times for MFC guys who have won/earned something.
But yes, with a check or well-concealed cash, the p.o. box would be great, if you don't mind them knowing that city/town you're in.
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Yeah that is true about the city/town you are in. A lot of people will get it in the next town. I was considering getting my PO Box in the city my boyfriend lives in but he isn't going to be there for long so I decided against it :p.
I believe you can also get things automatically forwarded to you. So you could get a PO Box in the next town and pay even more to have it forwarded to your house. That would be more expensive but perhaps less risky? :p
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Originally Posted by
TheBrownFox
A p.o. box might be a good idea for some, but you can mail certain items yourself and just not put a return address. I've done it plenty of times for MFC guys who have won/earned something.
But yes, with a check or well-concealed cash, the p.o. box would be great, if you don't mind them knowing that city/town you're in.
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I sold some well worn shoes on Ebanned a few times and used the recipient's address for the return address as well. My packages arrived with no problems.
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Oh my, 1st talk to a lawyer.
Selling dirty panties is illegal. There are federal laws that keep stores from selling underwear that has been worn for sanitary reasons.
By shipping them you also break more federal laws and can be arrested for selling hazarderous materials.
Dont assume because many do it that it is legal.
Be aware of want you are doing. Ignorance does NOT hold up in a court of law. Plus an arrest like that will make local & maybe state headlines then your name, address what you do for a living will all become a matter of public information.
Heck the lawyer fees alone will be huge.
More than likely you will never have a problem, but don't assume this is legal.
Good Luck,
Sam
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Originally Posted by
innes
Yeah that is true about the city/town you are in. A lot of people will get it in the next town. I was considering getting my PO Box in the city my boyfriend lives in but he isn't going to be there for long so I decided against it :p.
I believe you can also get things automatically forwarded to you. So you could get a PO Box in the next town and pay even more to have it forwarded to your house. That would be more expensive but perhaps less risky? :p
Yeah, I'd rather not pay for anything unless I absolutely have to, and at this time a p.o. box is not something I feel I need (I don't drive, so getting to it would be a hassle anyway). But thanks, babe. :)
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i don't know from experience, but it seems like you could use one of those chipin things to use paypal. i'm pretty sure chipin donations go straight to your paypal, that they aren't held or anything. you'll have to make the chipin for something innocent, and post it somewhere that doesn't make it look suspicious (ie, don't post it on your mfc profile). and you aren't selling the panties, you're sending them as a thankyou for the donation.
opinions?
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Originally Posted by
Sam38g
Oh my, 1st talk to a lawyer.
Selling dirty panties is illegal. There are federal laws that keep stores from selling underwear that has been worn for sanitary reasons.
By shipping them you also break more federal laws and can be arrested for selling hazarderous materials.
Dont assume because many do it that it is legal.
Be aware of want you are doing. Ignorance does NOT hold up in a court of law. Plus an arrest like that will make local & maybe state headlines then your name, address what you do for a living will all become a matter of public information.
Heck the lawyer fees alone will be huge.
More than likely you will never have a problem, but don't assume this is legal.
Good Luck,
Sam
GOTTA challenge this. I have read people say selling used undies is illegal FOREVER....and in EVERY case I can, I have asked for statutes and actual LAW, and no one ever can give me a law that is being broken.
So I say, It's NOT illegal and I challenge someone with US law or state laws, to prove me wrong.
No-one ever arrested as far as I can find either, so even if there IS a law, no-one has EVER enforced it?
C'mon...
B
PS. One thing I will say. MUCH better to send them via UPS than USPS. Legally. Because there ARE some funky laws with the postal service (which is why no real return address is ALWAYS better).
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she sells sanctuary
i don't know from experience, but it seems like you could use one of those chipin things to use paypal. i'm pretty sure chipin donations go straight to your paypal, that they aren't held or anything. you'll have to make the chipin for something innocent, and post it somewhere that doesn't make it look suspicious (ie, don't post it on your mfc profile). and you aren't selling the panties, you're sending them as a thankyou for the donation.
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Nope, not safe at all. A couple of models on MFC had their Paypal accounts permanently closed for that.
Why would anyone want to risk that anyway when Alertpay accepts adult and works great?
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Bambalina
GOTTA challenge this. I have read people say selling used undies is illegal FOREVER....and in EVERY case I can, I have asked for statutes and actual LAW, and no one ever can give me a law that is being broken.
So I say, It's NOT illegal and I challenge someone with US law or state laws, to prove me wrong.
No-one ever arrested as far as I can find either, so even if there IS a law, no-one has EVER enforced it?
C'mon...
B
PS. One thing I will say. MUCH better to send them via UPS than USPS. Legally. Because there ARE some funky laws with the postal service (which is why no real return address is ALWAYS better).
There was a woman who got in trouble - I remember, it was years ago.
Here is the article where a woman was arrested:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/1545746/detail.html
An angry ex-customer is why - really important to not give out your home address.
She ended up with 5 years probation, but her name and face were smeared all over the news.
http://www.wyff4.com/r/1775713/detail.html
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Sometimes you have to mark them as a biohazard.
There is one that allows you to mail them, either UPS or Fex Ex
Avoid using USPS
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laurielegs
There was a woman who got in trouble - I remember, it was years ago.
Here is the article where a woman was arrested:
An angry ex-customer is why - really important to not give out your home address.
She ended up with 5 years probation, but her name and face were smeared all over the news.
Yep it was the POSTAL stuff...MAILING Obscene materials is a possibility and then what they got her for, which is the bio-filthy obscene combo.
However, many supposed at the time that she was pinched for something completely different...
Go read between the lines....she got 5 years probation because she co-operated with a Federal Investigation (meaning she knew something or could finger someone who the Feds really wanted, so they busted her and offered her a deal if she would co-operate and testify...and she did...)
Otherwise, there are no other busts ever, even for postal stuff. Because they would have to prove you REALLY didn't wash them and that you were purposely sending them dirty and so on....which would mean a REALLY big investigation, for panties.
B
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Originally Posted by
laurielegs
Nope, not safe at all. A couple of models on MFC had their Paypal accounts permanently closed for that.
Why would anyone want to risk that anyway when Alertpay accepts adult and works great?
were they girls that posted their chipins on their mfc profile? i saw some of that, and it looked so stupid. i'm talking about directing someone to a chipin on a blog or something that isn't adult-related.
i'd rather just use alertpay myself, but more customers seem to use paypal and not alertpay.
i guess the other option is to open a seller's account on amazon, since it's pretty universally trusted too.
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Couldn't you just buy a cheap pair of panties from Meijer, cut the tags and send them new? If you retained the receipt it would prove they are new..then it's no difference than mailing your niece a bra for Christmas.
When I sell underwear at work I sell it for $50 and the underwear is from Meijer. I keep a stash in my locker. $2 per pair... $48 profit! }:D
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Yes, but if you want a nice business, you need to sell them panties that REEK of your sopping wet vagina...THAT is what they want...and if you send em brand new, I would Assume (can't state as positive) that they would be pissed, you would be committing fraud if you promised well-worn panties and generally NOT getting a return customer.
Also, one thing to keep in mind is that if the panties are vacuum sealed, you have a strong defense against any bio-hazard complaint. Vacuum sealers are cheap on eBay...you should ALL own one.
B
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You aren't committing fraud if you say the panties will be soaked with your vaginal secretions and you don't send them that way because it's illegal. And even if that was fraud it wouldn't matter, that's no different than going to the police because your drug dealer sold you oregano instead of weed. One is legal, and one is not.
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You could probably concoct something at home that matched the smell and consistency of vaginal fluids and dried nice and crusty if you got creative. Then it wouldn't be illegal to mail it and you could mass produce them much quicker.
Think creams, dyes, lotions, or liquids with a strong, foul odor. You could add some thicker consistency substances to make it more authentic and provide the crusting when dry.
I would suggest buying some yeast from your grocery store and starting there. Yeast infections are especially stinky and create thick, disgusting messes in your underwear. If you mixed that with a thicker base (think honey, but not so sweet smelling) and added a few more ingredients (maybe a dash of marshmallow paste for coloring) then you could have yourself a nice business venture and the panties could be dirtied at a faster pace.
Dry yeast packets at Meijer:
http://www.meijer.com/s/hodgson-mill...-ea/_/R-182319
Then you aren't violating the law and you can sell more at a faster rate, thus, more profit!
Good luck :)
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I'm...hmmm...not gonna comment on ^^^that.
I will say though that Pantysales are strange biz and that Guys who love panties SO know if you send them anything but vagina.
B
ps. Confused WHY you would do any of that...at a loss...
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Because that way it isn't illegal.