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Guys who go in alone vs guys in group question
I have something of a debate with a friend. I feel it makes a difference how dancers approaches or acts towards you while he claims a dancer won't care if they sit with a group of guys or just one
We been to a SC a handful of times and we would get some dances now If decided to buy her a drink I would go to the bar and wait a bit so they be alone and if I bought her a drink he would stay and argue his presence at the table cant possibly affect how she treats me. What ended up happening at first is he wont buy a dancer a drink because I leave and I wont buy her a drink because he wont leave and now I just go alone.
How do dancers feel about sitting at a table with 2 guys but only one is spending money on you.
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I generally prefer guys who come in alone because they aren't so worried about when & how many dances we do. Guys who come in groups are worried about their buddy thinking they were ditched or left without a ride... so it's harder to sell long strings of dances. With that said, I generally approach everyone. All things equal though, I'll go for the one who comes in alone.
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Yeah guys with friends worry about their friends, but they can also buy dances for each other or persuade each other to spend more. I don't mind either way. Even if a guy is with friends one night, he might come back alone the next.
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Personally, large groups annoy me, just because I find they're often the lowest spenders. Nobody wants to be the one to spend more money than everyone else, so they hold back, or they're all just there to "hang out." My biggest piece of advice - don't be that table with 6 guys where one person gives the girl a dollar and says "That's for all of us" :O
More seriously, I just find it a little difficult to approach groups because how do I know which guy is going to be the one to be interested and spend money? It's tough to try to establish a personal connection and make sure no one feels left out at the same time. I've had it happen numerous times where I just randomly pick a guy in the group to work on, he doesn't want to spend on me, and then some guy on the other side of the table gets all jerk-ish and is like "Well, I would have bought you a drink but you didn't want to talk to me. You like him" blah blah blah - and start acting like we're in a regular bar and I'm "judging" who I want to "pick up." It's really annoying to deal with guys who take everything personally and behave like I'm "choosing" someone else over him - and it tends to happen more in groups (not always, but a lot).
I understand guys come with friends, but it makes it more difficult to tell if you actually want company or if you're content with the company you have and just want to watch and goof-off. I would approach a single guy before approaching any groups. If you want to make it clear that you're interested in a dancer, make sure you go tip her on stage and if she's walking past, ask her to come sit with you when she gets a chance. It makes it a lot easier if we know that you're the one in the group who's interested.
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Hmm...what i DO find annoying is approaching a big group, scanning them quickly to find the one that looks happy for company, sitting down and going through the basic small talk, only to be passed off to a guy the other side of the table "go talk to him, he wants a dance". It's so rude as not only do I have to move, but the chances are his friend doesn't want company either. It's like the guys want a stripper at the table ( which is why they say yes when I ask if I can join them) but nobody wants to pay for anything.
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alone alone alone alone alone alone alone
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But if a guy goes alone will the dancers swarm him for money quicker? Rather than in a group?
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^^ I don't get why so many guys think of it as strippers "swarming them for money." Of course we want money, but it's not like you wouldn't be getting anything in return. Makes it sound like you're doing us a favor or like you resent us for offering you something that we have probable cause to think you want. :/
I prefer alone, but it doesn't make much of a difference in terms of when I approach.
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I would venture to guess that guys who come in alone are easier pickings for the dancers. A guy there himself can safely be assumed to be there because he chooses to be, not because his group of friends chose to be. Of course, the possibility he is a perve is greater as well. Its all a roll of the dice.
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My best experiences with guys in groups are when a guy separates himself from the pack to come see me at the stage or the bar, which is sort of like him being alone (for the moment) anyway. So I guess that's a big vote for "alone" from me.
I agree with Aroura, when approaching a large table of guys, it's hard to know who would be most interested at a glance (unless they make it real easy and obvious for me by establishing lots of eye-contact, smiling at me, etc.). Plus, guys that come in alone ar clearly there to interact with the dancers - most of the time. Guys in groups are often there to hang out with each other at least as much as they are there to spend time with us (ugh, don't even get me started on freaking bachelor parties - lots of looking and hollering, not nearly enough tipping and buying), and less likely to buy a VIP or more than one dance.
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This reminds me of a night I was in the stripclub with my regular girl. A group of 7 or 8 people came in, 2 girls and the rest guys. I made a wise crack about how that table would be an impossible sell. She bet me 20 bucks she could get at least 5 dances from that group. I sat back and watched her approach the table and 90 minutes later she came back with 7 dances sold.
She told me the secret was to identify the alpha male in the group and win him over first. Once she had his approval, the rest subconsciously followed his lead. In this case, the alpha was with one of the women, so although he didn't buy any dances, his influence sold the rest of the dances for her.
I'm sure there were other things she did to sell that table. She was an amazing hustler.
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It does not matter to me. I will get a dance with a guy whether he is part of a set or group.
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IMO, guys who are only comfortable and MUST come with at least one guy is a big baby who needs his boyfriend to hold his hand and has to ask him for permission to get a dance essentially. In my experience
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pcbman
This reminds me of a night I was in the stripclub with my regular girl. A group of 7 or 8 people came in, 2 girls and the rest guys. I made a wise crack about how that table would be an impossible sell. She bet me 20 bucks she could get at least 5 dances from that group. I sat back and watched her approach the table and 90 minutes later she came back with 7 dances sold.
She told me the secret was to identify the alpha male in the group and win him over first. Once she had his approval, the rest subconsciously followed his lead. In this case, the alpha was with one of the women, so although he didn't buy any dances, his influence sold the rest of the dances for her.
I'm sure there were other things she did to sell that table. She was an amazing hustler.
good idea!
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When I go with friends, we are clearly into our conversations, and the ladies don't approach much..... Sorry about that....... I see a nice dancer about once a week, and I would never go with friends to see her..... She is with me all my time there...... Our time together is great and even the other dancers have stopped approaching me when she is not with me.
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chris1234
But if a guy goes alone will the dancers swarm him for money quicker? Rather than in a group?
Yes, dancers will swarm you quicker if you are alone. :P To optimize your SC experience, save up some $$, then go alone.
Do not venture off to the club until you have some money to spend. Lack thereof means you can't capitalize on the swarming.
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I prefer guys who come in alone. They are easier to approach and sell dances to.
However, guys in groups can be more fun and will buy dances for each other.
But Alone is preferable.
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chris1234
But if a guy goes alone will the dancers swarm him for money quicker? Rather than in a group?
Absolutely YES! It's horrible man. Don't let them corner you. Also, watch out if one or two of them start acting friendly with you or even show you a tit! No doubt that there will be a third trying to pick your pocket. Oh, and keep a close eye on your car keys and, for God's sake man, if you are traveling then don't let your hotel room key out of your site! ::)
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rickdugan
Absolutely YES! It's horrible man. Don't let them corner you. Also, watch out if one or two of them start acting friendly with you or even show you a tit! No doubt that there will be a third trying to pick your pocket. Oh, and keep a close eye on your car keys and, for God's sake man, if you are traveling then don't let your hotel room key out of your site! ::)
geez u make strippers sound so horrible but i guess some are like that.
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femmefatale88
geez u make strippers sound so horrible but i guess some are like that.
I guess the tongue in cheek nature of my post wasn't clear. :)
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kitinboots
Hmm...what i DO find annoying is approaching a big group, scanning them quickly to find the one that looks happy for company, sitting down and going through the basic small talk, only to be passed off to a guy the other side of the table "go talk to him, he wants a dance". It's so rude as not only do I have to move, but the chances are his friend doesn't want company either. It's like the guys want a stripper at the table ( which is why they say yes when I ask if I can join them) but nobody wants to pay for anything.
OMGEEEE!!! I totally thought I was the only one that this happened to! I'm like damn, am I ugly? Do I smell bad? Usually I just leave cuz, it's not worth being turned down by every single guy at the table. :-[
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pcbman
This reminds me of a night I was in the stripclub with my regular girl. A group of 7 or 8 people came in, 2 girls and the rest guys. I made a wise crack about how that table would be an impossible sell. She bet me 20 bucks she could get at least 5 dances from that group. I sat back and watched her approach the table and 90 minutes later she came back with 7 dances sold.
She told me the secret was to identify the alpha male in the group and win him over first. Once she had his approval, the rest subconsciously followed his lead. In this case, the alpha was with one of the women, so although he didn't buy any dances, his influence sold the rest of the dances for her.
I'm sure there were other things she did to sell that table. She was an amazing hustler.
Phenomenal advice! Definitely going to use this.
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^^^ Several reasons:
First of all, so she can go over to your friend and say something like: "You're a lucky man. Doc Holliday was nice enough to pay for us to spend some time together".
Also, you're both human beings engaged in an interaction/transaction. She could just be polite and friendly.
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Natalllia
^^^ Several reasons:
First of all, so she can go over to your friend and say something like: "You're a lucky man. Doc Holliday was nice enough to pay for us to spend some time together".
Also, you're both human beings engaged in an interaction/transaction. She could just be polite and friendly.
Exactly. Now, I don't know why, and I can't possibly be the only one to have this happen all the time, but in any situation where someone buys something for a friend and they send you to relay this message, if you don't have a specific name to give them about who paid for their shit, they will play this little 5-minute fucking game with you, wanting to know who it was. You point, you say "that guy right there - you know, your friend, the guy in the whatever shirt" yada yada, and they continue to stare into the distance and go "who? who?" like there is absolutely no person within their eyeline that they can recognize as a friend. I mean, wtf is this, seriously? It's not like I'm gonna pull out $20 of my own and waste it to pretend that someone else bought him a dance so I can lure him in the back. And every time this happens, their fucking friend is sitting like maybe 10 feet away at most, just down the table. I had a table of two one night where the friend pulled me aside and bought his friend a dance, and I went over and was like "Alright, let's go, your friend bought you a dance." And the idiot was like "Huh? Who bought me a dance?" and then squinted while looking around the club like it was some great mystery. Um, who do you think, dumbass? How about the only friend you're with? I have his money, why do you feel the need to pretend? Like, why why why do you need to play this little game where you waste time playing dumb on who bought you something? I'm not a psych major, and I can't even begin to fathom why this is a common thing, but for some reason it is. It's even happened to me several times while waitressing.
Anyway /rant. I just seriously don't understand this. It's probably one of the most annoying things I've ever discovered because it makes literally zero sense.