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Bad news.Everytime they change something glitches appears
Smh changing the earnings page wasn't needed. It takes more clicks to look at current and past earnings than it did before.
Wow...the earnings page of all things...so they invest time into something that trivial but won't fix their servers etc? Sigh.
OK ladies I just spent a couple of hours on SM alongside Aw, and made a big fat sweet 0 on SM. It was a lot busier as I was using the FMLE encoder thingy and guys complimented my stream as being crystal clear, but no shows. My rates are 6.99 and 9.99 and I'm simply not prepared to go lower. I put Bonga on instead in the end and earned more there (WTF??!). Can any suggest any ways to get actual shows here?
Now a days it seems like you have to stay on for at least 4 hours to make anything on SM. Also when your rates are higher it can take longer to get shows. Also these last few months SM have been a hit or miss for some of us.
I say "Hello" to everyone that enters verbally and or by preset. I often type and speak to assure that my message is getting across to everyone. I utilize the hell out of the preset message function and have a tip menu. If you haven't already you should create a message stating that you have a lower price available because if your prem is $9.99 guys maybe coming in your room looking at your prem price and leaving because they feel its too high. I try to remind guys that my Exc is cheaper than Prem.
I've cut down on chit chat. Before I use to approach guys like:
Hello. How are you?
Where are you from?
Are you horny over there in "insert location"?
Do you want to stroke that horny dick?
Want to go pvt and stroke it for me?/Lets go pvt so I can make you stroke it.
Now I say "Hello. How are you? So what are you into luv?/What brings you by today?" and then I say some line to try to coax them to pvt.
@ Glam
Yes the culture of SM is different than any other site, believe me only on SM i have success with this hustle (i used this hustle with success on other pvt sites like IFR, IML, Jasmin back in the days), here people pay for the things they want from me cause i cater to fetish guys and they pay if they really want me & the things i offer.
On other sites this hustle is not working for me cause members are used to different hustle, men are like little boys, if they get spoiled they stay spoiled, it's important to train them 'properly' but u also need the right site to work certain hustle.
I know i dont have the personality, age & patience to pamper these guys on token sites & entertain them, that thing is for the young girls with lots of energy and stripper abilities/ mind set, for me that is too much work at the end of my cam career lol, now i want to be spoiled and worshiped by men ;) not to entertain them crowds LOL.
I want SM to stay a pvt based site so i can work my hustle the way i like and find more profitable, i hope this site will never change into a token based one, i hope it's culture will stay like it is now cause i just love the way it is.
I have many good regulars on SM that spoil me rotten, people who really put value into my work & appreciate what i have to offer, i adore my good regulars & i am doing everything to make them happy when they show me their love.
New guys come by too and i put up the same service for them as well to make them return.
Fetish guys are the most loyal & generous, i dont cater to gold show guys cause they just a different 'bread', i prefer the one-on-one experience over the GS one, i am really shy & dont feel comfy to be seen performing by lots of people at once.
my 2 cent on SM's site culture from my POV ;)
Good luck everyone xx
Absolutely. I always ask what he's in the mood for. The only time I make small talk is if I want to clear my room of freeloaders. I'll say shit like " Do you like my new cup I'm drinking from? Or, " I just watched the coolest fashion show."
Susie, you might want to use a profile photo and paint over it "Happy Hour rates right now", to get the ball rolling with sessions.
I Lower my rates temporarily.
I can't lower my rates though as 6.99/ 9.99 is only £1.56/£2.23 my cut which is far less than I earn elsewhere on per min sites. I guess I could lower them and not offer very much during shows, but that will then make splitting with AW difficult grr. I will try 5.99/8.99 tomorrow and also try it with a separate cam instead of verysoft. I'm freekin hawt man, and I'm always nice, friendly, and chatty (mfc has taught me a lot ha!), so I know it's not my looks, my greeting/demeanour, and now I know it's not my feed or sound, so i guess it must be rates. But when they take 65%.. i just..... ugh!
Thank you all btw, sorry to be so annoying. Trying to establish some sort of consistent splitcam earnings x
^^ Sm is that site where one day you can make $500 and the next day $5...its definitely not you. I've raised my rates and second guessed myself a ton on the bad days, but the then good days come along and yea, I realise its not necessarily me, its either different times of the month, or an abundance of fuck boys. Consistency though helps a ton. I find that if I work less than 20hrs a week there, the next week is a ghost town struggle, so the more visible you are generally speaking, the better things are as well.
Agreed... Also, when I saw they changed the earnings page, I thought they would include something I've been (and I bet lots have been) complaining about for a long time.
When you offer something on your show (videos, pics, etc.) in exchange for Gold, the customer must then send you an inbox so you can reply with the link or whatever. For example, axel123 plegded 40 Golds to get your video. Then some idiot, thief, asshole, changes his nickname to axel123 (because he saw the pledge) and sends you the inbox, trying to trick you into thinking he's the one that pledged (because he's so freakin smart). Now you have two axel123 who sent you an inbox waiting for the reply with the link. Only one of them really pledged.
Turns out every customer has a customer ID number to their right. So now I have this scenario in my inbox:
From Subject
alex123 <31929408> Video
alex123 <87452975> Vid pls
So what now? I need to write support asking them to tell me who was the one that pledged, then wait for 1,2,3 or 4 days for the reply while I have an unsatisfied customer asking where the hell is his video.
SM now changed the earnings page... Was it so hard to listen to their models and include the <31929308> at the right of his name or when you click on him? If they did that, you can cross reference the ID number and in 30 seconds, you solved the big mistery, got your customer his video and reported the thief. And not just that, many other situations that present when two customers have the same nickname. But no, still no ID number on the earnings page.
I know this isn't our biggest concern right now (btw, last night traffic was absolute shit again), but it's small details like this that got SM where they are. If SM would listen to models and take their opinions, suggestions and complaints into consideration, they wouldn't be as bad as they are at this moment. This customer ID situation has such a simple solution, it just seems incredible to me they haven't fixed it. And this is just one of many small, stupid glitches that if they just listened and cared a little, would get fixed in a second and we would all win.
I signed up to manyvids recently... That site is amazing! Everything is so simple, so well thought. They have live support. Not only for customers btw, for performers too. When you open their live support and start chatting, you get blown away. So helpful, so responsive, so polite. But isn't it the smart thing to do? It's easy to see the way they think... Who's bringing in the cash? Performers! How should I treat them? Like freakin kings and queens! Easy! Make them feel like they matter, like they are the ones who earn us the money and they are the ones that we should be listening to so this site is the best it could be.
But no, we are stuck with SM customer support, their more than 6 months glitches, their automated replies, we are crazy and everything is our fault or our PC is the one failing, etc.
SM used to be such a great place to work...
I will not sell vids on SM bc users can change their screen names. its so shitty that guys would go to that extent to get free content.
I've found that the only sure-fire way to prevent people trying to steal videos by changing usernames on SM is to privately type a 'password' to the buyer and tell them to include it in the message to you, either once the gold show starts OR in private message chat option if it's in free chat. Just change the password up every time and write 'em down. A simple word will do. Wish SM would just fix the username issue.
I would love it if I could click on a customers name from My Contacts and my notes about them show up there. And the ability to create folders with the customers categorized into groups. ANd the mass emailing system needs to be reworked. I don't wanna wait days before it's sent out. And the last time I attempted a mass email it was rejected for sheer nonsense.
I don't like the new earnings page either... blah. Also, I like to open up the "recent earnings" box while still streaming so I can check what the customer rated me, put in any notes on him, etc. It used to be a convenient small pop-up. Now it opens a pop-up, then you have to click another link to expand your list of sessions, THEN you can click the customer's name, but that opens a whole new tab alongside my streaming browser's window behind the pop-up?! It almost feels like it's not supposed to be like that, and hopefully they are still working on it. Not a huge deal, but why change something only to make it worse?
Oh, it's awful, agreed.
I copied the URL of the My Earnings tab and put it in a tab next to my streaming window. That allows me to just refresh after shows and it makes the new pop up tab open in the same window instead of a new one. Still cumbersome at best, but less cluttered.
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I couldn't agree with this more.
And The 1950's were a simpler time.
I sometimes hate that ' the only consistent thing in life is change.'
Exactly! I wrote them suggesting the exact same thing a long time ago. Nothing happened. Not just that. When a customer sends an inbox, it would be so simple if we could just click on his name and the same information that pops up on the earnings page, would appear on the inbox page. That way we could know who is that customer that is sending an inbox. Is he a guy who just wants free stuff? Is he just writting to send a picture of his thing? Or is he a guy who has been in pvt with me 6 times, has pledged for 8 Gold Shows, bought a video or a pic, etc?
Look at what Issabelle and xCamLovex say... xCam won't even sell videos anymore because she doesn't want no losers trying to steal her stuff. That means less money for her, less money for SM. Who knows how many more made the same choice... That choice she and 1,000 others made cost SM hundreds of thousands of dollars. Issabelle had to come up with this whole password idea (thanks btw, great idea) when the solution is so simple. Just put the damn ID number in the earnings page as well or put the customer pop up in the inbox page! It takes less than 30 seconds to check if they really pledged or not. That simple.
That way we know if whoever is writting is a freeloader or a real paying customer. Makes things much more efficient.
Yea the earnings page i dont like either, wish they would focus on sitewide issues that would help us more than these tweaks to things that dont need to be fixed or changed.
Oh yeah. 100% agree that an ID number in the pop up page would help.
Two tricks to avoid video-theft by username change:
1) When the customer messages you for the video, block them from messaging. They should* then appear in your Black List tab with their username as a hyperlink. This will pull up their user profile and allow you to check the session details to see if they're the proper paying customer. You can also leave yourself notes on the customer when they pay so that when you pull up this pop up from the Black List you automatically see if they're the proper customer or not. If they are, UNBLOCK from messages and send them the video. If they aren't, block them from chat as well and enjoy knowing you caught the wannabe thief.
2) Giving out a password/codeword for each video, as previously mentioned.
I like a combo of options 1&2 where I note on the customers profile what video he bought + the code I gave him to redeem it so if the custy forgets the code (horny dudes are dumb) OR I get a fake I need to quickly eliminate, I have both options open.
And, yeah, massive fucking pain in the ass. But then, what do you expect from a site where the twitter page runner--during a live Q&A session btw--denied the free preview/peeper loop hole even existed and claimed a non-charge meant the customer hadn't yet connected to the show? My fav part of that session was him just ignoring the question from a model saying 'so how are the peepers that never get charged able to talk before they leave if they haven't connected?' Like, guys, we get it. Back in Ye Olde Days of Dial Up, it could take a bit for connections to paid chat to start/they often glitched and so you gave some wiggle room so customers wouldn't get charged for technical glitches, but we live in Ye New Days of Fiber Optics so if you could just admit that feature is outdated and remove it that'd be great.
SM is my love-hate relationship of the ages. I make so much money there and sometimes I just want to throttle them anyway.
* Note--the Black List tab is sometimes weird in refreshing with messaging blocks. If the user you blocked doesn't immediately show up, sort the Black List by customer name (alphabetically) and go dig for the user. Still a 3 minute process to check if the user actually paid for a vid, but at least you can confirm that way.
I sell a ton of vids on Streamate. Issa explained exactly the right way to handle the name change issue. I usually use the method of banning them in the message tab, hunting down their name in my ban list, checking their earnings tab, then un-banning them and sending the video. It's a pain in the ass and takes FOREVER (whyyyyy is the ban page so slow to load??? why isn't there a search function in there???) but it works.
So if anyone from Streamate is reading this, please fucking add a link to the member's profile in their messages. This would save me so much time that I could be spending on cam, making everyone more money. And don't let guys change their names anymore since they obviously abuse that privilege. And please let us ban them after they've left the room. And please make offline tipping happen. PLEASE.
We, The Models, have MONEY GENERATING requests:
1) Offline tip button
2) Ban feature after a member leaves the room
3) Ban feature from the user profile page pop up
4) Turn off the 'free preview' feature--it ain't 2001 internet time anymore
5) Stop allowing name changes and/or include the user ID NUMBER in all user correspondence (mail, profile pop up, etc.)
6) Make the Black List searchable (seriously--I'm at 1300 Asshats and that gets cumbersome to trod through)
7) Allow us to pull up the member profile page pop up from messages
I'd also really love if, similar to MFC and other token sites, the username is a hyperlink to their profile at all times in chat history, i.e., when the member logs on/off and with every chat message sent. Those hyperlinks stay after they leave the room. Add a 'block chat/messages' feature to user profile pop ups and TA-DA models will be much happier.
But no one at SM is reading this, so mostly I'm just complaining to the ether right now.
I just checked my rankings after using the encoder earlier and everything is now showing as excellent except for time online (naturally) and round trip time which is 267 (below average). Any idea how I can get it down?
It would be nice if the guys could load money into their account and we could see how much they have in it by clicking on their profile. I wish we had that in place would save alot of time guessing who has money or not to spend. I know we try to convert all of them as we should but that would be awesome to have implemented. This is just a thought i had thinking outloud haha some guys havent spent money in the whole time they are there and they clearly state they dont intend to but have their account for yrs without spending a dime. It would be easier to work the guys with money loaded it would be awesome to have that in place in the future.