So
hello :)
Well there are the obvious ways to change your ranking on any site, get higher more traffic, Sm, Aw,mfc,lj,
whatever site your working, tell your rank and how you achieved it, if you dont like it, get some ideas on how to change it
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So
hello :)
Well there are the obvious ways to change your ranking on any site, get higher more traffic, Sm, Aw,mfc,lj,
whatever site your working, tell your rank and how you achieved it, if you dont like it, get some ideas on how to change it
I don't like to see threads disappear off the first page without any replies so, I'll try and make my contribution even though I am not too sure what kind of "ranking" you are referring to.
Are you talking about ratings?
Placement on the site pages?
Having many visitors in free-chat?
Having many privates?
Making a lot of money?
All of the above?
I have what I consider a good ranking on SM and a neutral/ bad ranking on AW. I'll try and comment about my ranking and my experience at these sites based on the aspects above. Sorry if that is not what you were asking.
The good ranking:
My main site is SM. I have a 5 star rating, I am usually on the top row of the first page and sometimes first spot of the first page (also a few times on the second row and even fewer times on the third row).
I have a good amount of visitors in my free-chat and they start coming in as soon as I start streaming. I usually have no time to finish setting up the Encoder, and the chat page on the monitor before they start coming in.
I always had a decent amount of privates, party chat is further increasing my income, and I am quite satisfied with my daily/weekly income.
To say the truth, I have no idea how I got to the top row of the first page, much less to the first spot. I didn't even know I was there until a visitor told me about it a couple of weeks ago. I do use the Encoder and offer phone, which we know counts for placement, and also log in there for 25 or more hours a week. Other than that, the placement is supposed to be about how much money you are making the site, ratings, and maybe also how many customers have you as a favorite.
I don't really advertise anywhere. Just started yesterday trying to at least use Twitter, Facebook and Myspace to promote myself, even though I have had accounts at these sites since I thought of camming again about year ago but didn't really do it until a month ago. I had done camming for a few months about 4 years ago but stopped and only restarted now.
The only things I can relate about what I do is that I try and wear nice looking and sexy lingerie in free chat, greet every customer that is listed on my visitors chat panel, be nice to the visitors, smile, try and talk to them and get them to talk to me and dance a lot.
I don't get naked, masturbate, or am overly naughty in free chat but I'll flash boobs and will do some boobs related plays for gold.
In privates, I do my best to do what the customer wants. Aside fisting, ATM, very big dildos, and some really weird stuff, I offer most of the "services" that the guys look for.
I try and be honest when they ask me things (not about my personal information). But if someone asks me, for example, if I will dominate them, I tell them that I can do it but as more of a mild role-play and that, if they want hard core domination, they should look for someone else that is experienced with that.
I think that I am attractive and in shape, even though I am not a youngster, but that doesn't have much to do with being successful at camming. There is an audience for every type of girl and personality does count.
That is all I can think of right now. Other than that, just luck I guess.
The bad ranking
I am also with Adultwork, but I hardly ever log in there because the few times I did, only once I had decent traffic in my room for a couple of hours. Other than that time, I have logged in to JustCamit another two times for about an hour only each time because it was so dead.
So, even though I am the same at AW that I am at SM, I haven't gotten much anywhere there. I'll try to persist and log in there now and then to see if, with time, things get less boring for me there, but so far, even though I have had some privates there, I have no ratings and, with the little time I have spent there, only got enough credits to request a transfer once.
Does anyone how much girls are paying in average to be featured at AW? I hate this bidding to be featured thing. When I did camming 4 years ago, I was with Adultwork and you could pay to be featured but they had a set price for each day of the week. I don't remember it being so dead in terms of traffic either
I hope someone will post good strategies to get a better ranking at AW.
AW
Adultwork doesn't really have a ranking system. They can find your profile in a bunch of different ways.
An example: I was chatting with a member who was talking about how he feels like a creep when he comes across women who charge virtually nothing for hardcore shows. I made some reference to having seen them on the "TV" page, where all the camgirls/boys/trans are laid out according to category, which I thought was how most people found us, and he said, "The what page?"
You can pay to be featured, but I don't know anyone who thinks it makes a difference. I tried it once out of curiosity a while back, forgot that I did it, and then checked my account in retrospect to see if I made more money that day. I made pretty much the same. So I wouldn't waste your credits. Maybe someone else can chime in on this if they feel differently.
So AW's main system for allowing members to prioritize who they might want to see is through feedback. Some guys just don't leave feedback and some guys don't know how to leave feedback. I have one guy who must have spent 10k on me over the past few months and he's never left feedback. And then I have guys I've seen for only five or ten minutes and they've left feedback within minutes. And I've received feedback from guys two or three months after the session itself.
I've been on AW for a while, so I can't remember whether I noticed a dramatic difference between my no-feedback period and my some-feedback period. I remember a lot of guys trying to fuck with me when I had no feedback, but I also attracted guys who like "new girls." They didn't stick around for long, but they left feedback. Once I got a little feedback, the sort of guys I attracted changed. I'm pretty sure I started getting privates more consistently.
Sometimes leaving them feedback reminds them to leave you feedback. Or not. It's something you can do.
Something else you can do: load some pics in your private gallery, create an album with a PIN, then state in your profile that members who leave feedback will get access to a collection of photos. That gives them incentive to navigate AW's weirdly confusing system and leave you feedback.
My advice: take each show very seriously. Knock them out of the park. If you have a unique angle or niche, that will help. You're more likely to get feedback if you're memorable.
Also: if you have no feedback, definitely leave free chat open. They get booted every three minutes, so it isn't like MFC where they can just set up camp and chill while you're trying to work, and free chat gives them a chance to check you out for a couple of minutes. And keep your audio on so they can hear your voice (definitely speak, don't type).
This is my own take on Adultwork: it takes time to build relationships on that site. If you feel like that time is getting to be a waste, then I'd just stick with another site. For some people it doesn't work at all, and I don't really know why it works for some and not others.
MFC
I was thinking of just starting a thread and unloading everything I know about boosting your camscore, if that's what you want to do. I de-emphasize the camscore because I think it's total bullshit, but I also have a good one, so maybe I'm being a douche by thinking that.
i forgot i made this (homer simpson) doh!, thanks for respondig girls and i meant like where are you on the sites, top 10 percent, 20%, how long and what did you do to get there, and what would you like to do to get better, i need to not make difficult threads i confuse my self :)
MFC makes it pretty clear where you are in relation to other camgirls, but I don't think there's any way to know that on AW.
Noa, thank you so much for your insight and tips on AW.
What you said does help and I will keep trying to get somehwere there. It is just that SM is being so good to me that I feel like I am losing money that I could be making at SM when I am logged in to AW.
I did fine on AW about 4 years and I was only there for a few months, but that was the only site I worked at back then. I had good feedback and made decent money. But now, being new there again and loging in no more than about 2 to4 hours a week, it is being pretty difficult. If I didn't spend pretty much all of my camming time at SM, I would probably already be doing at least a little better at AW.
I think on SM it has something to do by how much you offer (hd, phone, sound) and then by how often you are online. I'm usually on the first page, between line 4 and line 10.... Never on the top 3 rows though.
on streamate, i'm usually on the top row (most often in the 1st or 2nd spot) on the bbw page, and sometimes also on the curvy and big tits pages i think - occasionally i'll be on at the same time as someone who's getting slightly more traffic, and i can definitely see how my traffic affects my placement on that page. i offer hd & sound, but phone only in exclusive so i usually don't have it enabled. i have a five star rating. i'm usually on the first or second page off the main home, but pretty far down, and i'd really like to move up. i'm starting to use the encoder again but can't say so far whether that affects my placement and traffic - i'm hoping i can boost my percentage of time spent in privates with it :)
I guess I need to disable the block on my state on SM for a day because I don't have a clue if I am on the 1st or 10th page, LOL! I offer HD, audio and phone and get plenty of traffic, so maybe I'm at least on the 2nd page.
I'm toying with this idea.
SM: I'm not sure where I'm at anymore lol. Because of the block. Last time I checked I would be in the middle or the bottom of SM first page and either 1-3 row of ebony. I'm upgrading a few things so to become better.
Mfc: - hmph. My camscore is 800ish and I don't bother.
Cams: - I just started on the site again after so many months hiatus. I'm at the bottom of the first page which is like rank 70-80 out of 500-600? Here what matters is the same as SM - HD, hours of broadcast, and traffic. Because of the break my ratings dropped to 5's and 6', but when I started again they hopped back to 9's yay!