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Roxy -- Thanks for the encouragement!
It feels weird to be at his office at night and with CCTVs all around us. I don't like that.
Who knows, I might go to that building again someday in the future for some vanilla job interview and wouldn't want to be "some girl on CCTV"
What I mean is, the SD is attractive and I might get carried away if it's just me and him, me sitting on his lap in his room.
Just doesn't sound right and invasive to my privacy.
I was tempted though..I must admit. I mean..the bait was the ATM card and also having a good time with him. Honestly, I do enjoy meeting him.
As much as attractive I think he is, I have to keep my guards up all the time.
Jessie--I am thinking about this as well. About sleeping with him. Honestly, I find him tempting. But, I have to keep my guards up and thread slowly.
"If you havent thought about the emotions prior to that it could destroy you. " --
I agree with this..I am pondering and taking things very slowly. I did got emotional with my former SD, the one before him.
Melonie -- thanks for the advice also.
"And it's also often true that the same qualities that make for a lucrative SD when things are going well, i.e. a high income / powerful position, can make for a dangerous situation when things eventually go badly !!!"
I also have to think carefully about this. This is a delicate situation and needs constant evaluation.
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UPDATE ON SD & ME
2 days ago, SD told me he will be going on a business trip to Eastern Europe October 2011 and he also said that he always find Eastern European girls very attractive.
Jokingly he told me, that he might try to find out about the girls himself. I take it as his subtle way of telling me that he planned to spend time with them and probably sleep with them too.
Honestly, this behavior of his is also proving me right that my guards have to be up always and stay up. And I am planning to get out as much as I can from this man for the upcoming few months before his trip to Slovakia,since he might spend money on girls there as well..so I need to plan ahead and get as much as I can before he leaves.
(And when he's back in the country, that's a different story right? )
He even told me that his lifelong fantasy is to marry or have relationship with an exotic Eastern European girl. I don't know why he's telling me all this. Is this some kind of test? Is he trying to find out my reaction? I kept myself calm, fun, laugh and smile a lot. I am not that emotionally deep with him yet to be jealous, and this sort of behavior from his side makes me put him on his place again, as a WALLET.
This whole situation made me remember Laurisa's advice to get as much as I can, while he's around. My friend says 'Grab it while it's hot!'
My conclusion so far about SD-SB situation: Sometimes..you want to see them as a person, and they like it when you treat them as a person. But I realize it's just MERE FANTASY. Reality is shallow. He sees me as a pretty doll, as arm candy..and I see him as a wallet. And all the sweet words, loving gestures and conversations between us..? It's just play.
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UPDATE LATEST MEETING
I just got back from Lunch meeting with my SD. He's been super busy working on this case and it's tough, he's been dying to get time off and vacation. Today he squeeze in time to meet me and he looks a bit unkempt..unshaven, messy longer hair.., he looks tired and beat ..what a difference from his usual metro sexual appearance.
Anyways, I was looking GOOD. Been on my diet faithfully for these 2 weeks no straying it's been paid off. I'm tight, toned and lean. With my long long legs in my mini skirt, perfect hair nails and make up, I was practically the best looking girl in the mall today LOL and I can see SD is BEAMING with pride when I held his hand. He even blushed when the barista at Starbucks flirted with me LOL.
My friend always said "It's not easy LOOKIN GOOD, somebody's gotta FOOT THE BILL"
I always remember her words because they are fact. It is work. Meeting SD for lunch and listening to him talking about his work , case etc is WORK. Looking GOOD is WORK. This is part of my work.
"Sorry no SHOPPING TODAY"
I got upset when SD said "Sorry no shopping today babe I got to run back to my firm, I missed you so much"
I will send your allowance in a few days just text me your account number. Why does he need my account number? That's personal data. Why don't he hand me in cash?? I'm a bit upset.
My friend said today...here's her suggestion:
- Ask for some "weekend cash" on NO SHOPPING DAYS (mention that I need cash for salon treatment, nails, hair etc)
- Sometimes SDs are testing us with this "NO SHOPPING TODAY will transfer CASH instead" excuse
Honestly the testing and mind games sucks and they are draining. But let me MILK this man until he departs to Bulgary because there's no guarantee that he'll be back!!
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LESSONS I LEARNED SO FAR
- always think quick to find an excuse to hustle in any situation. I can still make money in "NO TIME FOR SHOPPING" situation by asking cash for weekend money to do my nails etc
-be cute but assertive. Guys like it.
So far that's it. I will add more as time goes by :) wish me luck with this SD.
I admit it's exciting to have an SD but it's also draining, mind games etc.
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VACATION PLAN
SD is asking me to pick a place/destination for 2 weeks vacation. Ugh. 2 weeks is too long.
I prefer to visit a big city where I can do shopping instead of going to some island/beach and just spending time at the beach/pool laying in villa with him......eeew the thought of that makes me cringe.
2 weeks is TOO LONG. i rather have 3-4 days (eew) at a shopping town.., no beach with him please.
I hope I can find out a plan and convince him, because he told me to pick destination. I know he loves the beach but umm..nooo..nothing to spend there.
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UPDATE
Yesterday I told him about my worries regarding STD and that I hope he will be open to me regarding his health condition.
I also ask him to make a commitment regarding sex to protect us both..not to kiss or make out with any woman as long as he's in a relationship with me..he said he promise.
i am still not sure I want to do this. Eventually the sex will come in order to get bigger cash.
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Originally Posted by
kristalyne
I'm a private exotic dancer recently get a loyal customer who offered to be my Sugar Daddy. Last week he took me for lunch and paid for my time to accompany lunch. Since we're having lunch in a big mall, I decided to drop by at my cosmetic counter to make some purchase, which I already budget. Suddenly he told me that I don't need to pay anything and from now on, he is responsible for everything and offering to be my Sugar Daddy (SD). So, he bought the cosmetics for me.
The day turned into a shopping spree. I already carry a list of items I need, so we just go and get them : clothes, shoes, belt, etc. When I pass a store I saw a bag I really want, and I really wanted to buy it, its not on my list though. But since it's our first shopping session together, I decided to keep it polite. He keep asking me "Kristal, you need anything else?" and I notice that he already bought me lots of stuff for first time shopping. I told him I want that bag, but I also don't want to make him bankrupt. He said 'It's okay we can get it on our next meeting."
When I'm back home, I keep thinking about the bag and regret it, I worry that someone already buy it. I should just grab the chance. My friend says that I am being too naive. I should not think about him/his feelings, just go grab the bag and let him pay. Because, basically when a man is already stating that he will pay for my purchases, it means he already alocate a budget to spend on me. My friend also said, that if he's already over budget, he will tell me "Next time", so as long as he didn't say "Next time", then it means I can still grab stuff and let him pay---->> my friend's advice.
I hesitated because he bought me so many stuff already and I don't want to appear greedy, because I am hoping that he will become a long term SD for me. Any advice on hustling him on our next meeting? How do I get grab the chances and opportunities without feeling greedy lol because my friend said, I should grab as much as I want as long as there is a chance, no need to think about his feelings.
Which approach is better:
A. (my friend's) Grab as much as I want, because when he takes me shopping it means he already allocate a budget for me. Spend until he alerted me that it's enough or say that "we can come back later next week to get this"
B. (my logic) Give a good impression, don't appear too greedy only take what I need on my list, adding a little here and there, but not too obvious, still being polite and basically being considerate so he feels comfortable with me and wants to be my long term SD.
Which attitude do you suggest? A or B? and please explain also based on your experiences.
I also need advice on Emotional Detachment:
The custy turned SD is physically my type, very nice, caring, successful and good looking. I need to keep my guards up and use logic all the time.
Please share some ideas on detachment based on your experiences handling good looking regulars. He told me he just went out of a long term relationship and is not looking for commitment but he needs someone around and enjoys having my company and spoiling me..and paying me for all that.
This is my first SD after quite some time because I almost fall in love with my former SD that's why I need to learn detachment.. and avoid having SDs for some time.
Any advice and help will be highly appreciated. Next week I will meet him again for lunch and the schedule as usual will be lunch followed by shopping. I will update the results. I plan to wear something elegant but more sexy, and perhaps buy basic outfits, lingeries so I can have a stock of outfits. :-*
SDs are emotionally DRAINING! Remember that they have an expiration date and they will always want more than they say. They are used to get exactly what they want, ALWAYS, and right when they want it. Money talks. I've noticed a lot of the time they just think "oh she's just a dumb _____" and try to trick you into being in the wrong place at the wrong time and having sex with them. Don't do it!! Unless you're comfortable with that.
So, my tips:
1.) learn when it is appropriate to cut off the arrangement
2.) pretend they don't exist when you're not with them (aside from texting or whatever once and awhile)
3.) look at them as a walking wallet ALWAYS
4.) always milk them for everything you can. act like a spoiled bitch, because they'll pay if they have it
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UPDATE--SD M.I.A (GONE)
It's been a week since I had contact with SD. I wonder what's happening. Last time he told me he's under pressure to finish his project.
I found this advice from Stripper Hacks very useful for my situation right now..
Here's what she said from another thread :
He doesn't like you any more because you turned down his generosity.
It's not a game. He's just not into you any more.
Lesson learned.
Men go to strip clubs because they want to meet women that are different than women outside of the clubs.
Regular women want to split the check, don't want to seem like gold diggers, and don't need anything from a man.
Guys hate that shit.
Next time a customer in a club wants to give you money don't turn it down!
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I've been thinking. It's been a week without news from my SD at all. No text, no message, no email.
I don't know what is happening. Some friends say that he could be busy..that I should just give it time.
The thing is, he promised me things like : shopping, vacations & cash.
Friends say not to contact him and just wait for him to contact me. Could it be..that he's the type that loves an aggressive manipulative girl and he consider me too nice???
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Originally Posted by
kristalyne
I've been thinking. It's been a week without news from my SD at all. No text, no message, no email.
I don't know what is happening. Some friends say that he could be busy..that I should just give it time.
The thing is, he promised me things like : shopping, vacations & cash.
Friends say not to contact him and just wait for him to contact me. Could it be..that he's the type that loves an aggressive manipulative girl and he consider me too nice???
Contact him (text would probably be best). Try to meet with him solely for a shopping spree or make him have the cash/gifts upfront & ready for you at the beginning of your meeting. If you think he wasted your time and isn't serious, try one last time to get $$$$/gifts (even imply things you won't do), get the stuff from him and then go home. He deserves it if he's fucking you over, wasting your time, and stringing you along for absolutely nothing.
Also, never expect anything from them because a lot of the time they like to be all talk. But try to get that from him ASAP. And AS MUCH AS YOU CAN! Do NOT feel guilty!! Milk it! Guilt trip or imply you'll be horny or something if you have to! But do not (IMO) have sex with them, or they'll drop you because the fantasy-chase is over for them. That's what they want. The fantasy. The real spender SDs anyway. Otherwise they'd just get an escort. And hopefully you weeded out the "SDs" (fake ones) who are solely looking for a discount escort using SD sites, but won't admit to it.
Most SDs (from my experience) LOVE when a girl seems dependent on them in a needy way. They LOVE it. Probably because they feel so out of control of their own life, and want to manipulate someone. USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE. Seem like you NEED them, but MANIPULATE them back once you see them in person. Act sassy and confident in person, but show your (fake) dependent-on-them-ness via text and when they give you gifts, money, etc. Positive reinforcement so you get more & more out of them.
LOOK AT SDs ONLY AS A WALKING WALLET and do NOT depend on them. Those are the two keys to success with SDs. However, at the same time, you need to make it seem like you are dependent on what they give you, but mindfuck them back in person by making them think you have that token sassy-bitchy-i-do-way-too-much-coke attitude. But tailor this to his personality type. BECOME THE GIRL HE THINKS YOU ARE / WANTS YOU TO BE!! But mindfuck, and do it seamlessly.
And that's why I feel like they aren't worth it because it is SO emotionally draining.
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Originally Posted by
kristalyne
UPDATE
Yesterday I told him about my worries regarding STD and that I hope he will be open to me regarding his health condition.
I also ask him to make a commitment regarding sex to protect us both..not to kiss or make out with any woman as long as he's in a relationship with me..he said he promise.
i am still not sure I want to do this. Eventually the sex will come in order to get bigger cash.
This is where you went wrong. SDs are on that site because they DO NOT want ANY form of commitment or "strings attached." Do not be surprised if he doesn't want to see you again. They like "the chase" of trying to get women to have sex with them (don't do it IMO) without ANY mention of exclusive, relationship, commitment EVER!!!
Also, TIP: always have more than 1 SD at any given point. Try to have 3 or more on rotation because they'll drop like flies at any point. NEVER tell them about each other, or that you have more than just him.
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GlamourRouge, thank you for the advice! I am currently trying to get a few additional SDs as well. I will update on things and check on this thread. I want to keep in touch with you, I definitely have to keep my hustle up, not feel guilty or shy and just MILK it!