Im fucking over dancing! *rant*
I'm at work right now about to leave!
I just started at this new club and was doing a nude dance with a guy (he was gettting pretty grabby with me trying move his hands off of my pussy/boobs/everywhere!) and I turn my back for a second and once I turn back around and he whipped out his dick saying
"Let's go I'm ready!'
I'm fucking disgusted telling him to put it away and he pulls out a condom saying
"I'm ALWAYS ready here! All the other girls know the drill!"
So I reply
"I'm A DANCER! IF I WANTED YO FUCK FOR MONEY I'D BECOME AN ESCORT AND MAKE WAY MORE THAN A MEESLY $40 PER SONG!"
He gave me $150 for feeling bad but that pissed me off! The girls must be really desperate here to be fucking for that little(management takes half of that)!
I see how when girls convert to webcam they start to despise dancing! The touching, groping, molestation of your body parts! Octopus hands ugh!!!!!!!
I can't wait to be approved for Streammate then I'm never turning back. At first I wasn't sure about it but it definitely beats randomly guys trying to touch me!
I'd rather have my dildo and my hands touching me in the comfort of my own home having guys WISH they could touch me!
Any support would be great :/
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Wow, the fact that he actually expected you to fuck him is awful. I'd be especially offended by the line "all the other girls know the drill," like as if the girls at your club are nothing but cheap hookers. I couldn't handle being groped by disgusting, yucky men. I'd eventually smack someone in the face with my shoe. Don't let it bother you too much; he's not worth it. *hugs*
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Eeeee, I've never been a dancer but that would be enough to make me walk away from it too. Even men from camming get on my nerves, but I should remind myself that it could be a lot worse. Set your own rules, boundaries and stick to it! It's great clicking "ban" or "end show" and being done with them!
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Oh girl, I'm so sorry! Something like this happened to me once, I was dancing for this fat ass latin guy, and as I had my back turned to him, I felt skin brush the back of my thigh. I turned around only to see his 1 inch flaccid sorry excuse for a dick whipped out. He was like, "come on baby put it in your mouth" or some shit like that, and I screamed and ran to the back crying..... I was so upset I just sat down on the bench in the dressing room, and SAT ON A FLAT IRON! Now I have permanent scar on the back of my thigh to remind me of that night and that asshole! That was the first time it happened, unfortunately it happened several other times, once a guy came in his pants and they were paper thin, and I had wet stuff on my ass. I think every dancer has experienced this though at some point. I even had a guy one time that kept holding me down and and grabbing all over me during the dance, being very dominant, getting his mouth really close to my ear breathing while he had me in a chokehold, then all of the sudden he BIT THE SHIT out of the inner part of my upper arm, while holding me down. HE LEFT TEETH MARKS! I swear, it almost drew blood! And guess what? He stiffed me and management didn't do a damn thing to help get my money, in fact, they yelled at me for not collecting upfront.
So yeah, I know how you feel....... Molested, raped, assaulted, dirty, angry, wishing you could go back in time and slit his throat open..... I swear, most of the time I just wait for some asshole to do something fucked up to me so I can let out all my pent up rage I've been holding in from these other assholes out on him. I dare a guy to fuck with me now, I wait for the day.....
Anyways, I hope it makes you feel better to know we've all been through this, and you will be okay!
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Originally Posted by
J.D.
Oh girl, I'm so sorry! Something like this happened to me once, I was dancing for this fat ass latin guy, and as I had my back turned to him, I felt skin brush the back of my thigh. I turned around only to see his 1 inch flaccid sorry excuse for a dick whipped out. He was like, "come on baby put it in your mouth" or some shit like that, and I screamed and ran to the back crying..... I was so upset I just sat down on the bench in the dressing room, and SAT ON A FLAT IRON! Now I have permanent scar on the back of my thigh to remind me of that night and that asshole! That was the first time it happened, unfortunately it happened several other times, once a guy came in his pants and they were paper thin, and I had wet stuff on my ass. I think every dancer has experienced this though at some point. I even had a guy one time that kept holding me down and and grabbing all over me during the dance, being very dominant, getting his mouth really close to my ear breathing while he had me in a chokehold, then all of the sudden he BIT THE SHIT out of the inner part of my upper arm, while holding me down. HE LEFT TEETH MARKS! I swear, it almost drew blood! And guess what? He stiffed me and management didn't do a damn thing to help get my money, in fact, they yelled at me for not collecting upfront.
So yeah, I know how you feel....... Molested, raped, assaulted, dirty, angry, wishing you could go back in time and slit his throat open..... I swear, most of the time I just wait for some asshole to do something fucked up to me so I can let out all my pent up rage I've been holding in from these other assholes out on him. I dare a guy to fuck with me now, I wait for the day.....
Anyways, I hope it makes you feel better to know we've all been through this, and you will be okay!
Im scared to sleep after that story. I never really made an effort to work in a club, but i love to visit them. I could never imagine treating someone that way. Although, one time i was in the bar section and the stage dancer had braces... she stuffed that dollar in my cleveage and wrecked my shit digging it out... bleeding scrapes type of shit. I wanted to knock her head off!!
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Originally Posted by
J.D.
I even had a guy one time that kept holding me down and and grabbing all over me during the dance, being very dominant, getting his mouth really close to my ear breathing while he had me in a chokehold, then all of the sudden he BIT THE SHIT out of the inner part of my upper arm, while holding me down. HE LEFT TEETH MARKS! I swear, it almost drew blood! And guess what? He stiffed me and management didn't do a damn thing to help get my money, in fact, they yelled at me for not collecting upfront.
Holy fucking shit D: thats legit terrifying
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Sorry about what happened.
{{Hugs}}
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Same reason I quit dancing, and I haven't looked back. The skies the limit and the possibilities are endless. Good luck with the new career move... it's worth it.
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I seriously plan on leaving dancing soon and this thread made me realize thats not a bad idea. I am so sorry that happened to you and unfortunately, a lot of those girls might be cheap hookers in that club. Thats what Im experiencing now. Girls do more on stage for a dollar than Ive ever seen before and it makes me sick. The other night i saw a girls put her bare pussy on a guys face and fake 69 d him onstage. For real..??? Nobody did anything about it.
I love webcamming! Yeah girls push limits more than me, but no one touches me, I can kick/ban people who are rude, nobody forces me to go on a stage or pay a housefee just to walk in the door. And I get to chill at home! Webcamming is like the new revolution of stripping.
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I rarely dance these days and just quit my job doing 9/11 dispatch (they were cutting my hours too often).
SM only pays 35% and quite frankly when I get $600 pay check it bothers me on some level that I actually brought in around $2000. But still 35% of something is something right?
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^^^^
It's fucked up on all levels but it's STILL something.
I guess you can call it Webcamming taxes? lol *shrugs*
That's why once I have this whole camming thing pat down I want to go indy. :)
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Camming is so much less stressful then dancing, no grabby customers everywhere you turn and having to drink to oblivion to block em out (in my case, at least). I do make less money each shift because I'm lazy and will only do it for a max of four hours at a time, but I have my sanity and can do it without drinking - which in turn allows for more shifts since I'm not hungover. Three weeks and I'm never looked back!
Hope you get approved soon! Best decision ever :)
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Even a 50% /50% split I would be "ok" with. Realistically a cam site would only need 50% to run decent traffic to the site, operate the site and still make a profit. Heck even at 50% they'd be looking at tons of profit.
I know many girls here are thinking "even 50% is not good! I wish it were 90% in my favour!" but lets be real here...traffic costs money! And you can have a site that pays you 90% but has no traffic and guess what, 90% of nothing is nothing!
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OJenni!
Even a 50% /50% split I would be "ok" with. Realistically a cam site would only need 50% to run decent traffic to the site, operate the site and still make a profit. Heck even at 50% they'd be looking at tons of profit.
I know many girls here are thinking "even 50% is not good! I wish it were 90% in my favour!" but lets be real here...traffic costs money! And you can have a site that pays you 90% but has no traffic and guess what, 90% of nothing is nothing!
Couldn't agree more :)
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Originally Posted by
OJenni!
Even a 50% /50% split I would be "ok" with. Realistically a cam site would only need 50% to run decent traffic to the site, operate the site and still make a profit. Heck even at 50% they'd be looking at tons of profit.
I know many girls here are thinking "even 50% is not good! I wish it were 90% in my favour!" but lets be real here...traffic costs money! And you can have a site that pays you 90% but has no traffic and guess what, 90% of nothing is nothing!
True... ATLEAST 50% damnit! Greedy MF >:(
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I could never go back to dancing. I would be searching for the red X button whenever a guy was a dick to me. I would miss working from a bed. And taking breaks and eating in my kitchen. And never tipping out to anyone, or shaving my legs (!), or making sure my nails are perfect, never paying gas, driving home at 5 am. And dealing with guys doing terrible, abusive things to me--still having post-traumatic stress flashbacks--and management never doing anything about it..
So sad to hear these stories of dancing gone bad. I know we all (probably) loved it with the new-girl high at first.
But yeah, camming. Not the same money for me (I worked in a club that was very blue collar but very money, and I banked like mad, and miss it sorely but not enough to go back--panic attacks at the thought) and I have to work more often but yeah. No more abuse!
I do agree with the not needing the drink thing--that is nice. I sometimes will indulge in a glass of wine on cam; I make more when I do it--not because I'm inebriated but because they think I am?
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Lady Xplicit18
True... ATLEAST 50% damnit! Greedy MF >:(
Well being realistic I think the most they can really offer is perhaps a 60% (us) /40% (them) split. That would be more fair while not compromising traffic.
Like I said you can have a site that pays 90% yet depends on its girls to drive traffic, does no advertising etc...they simply cannot afford those things on only 10%. And then the girls income suffers.
I have my own 800 number and website which I did a lot of promotion for. Just for a small ad in the back of a wanker mag (like say score or hustler) cost around $200/month! Sites like streamate do MASSIVE advertising. So they are more likely to run a full page ad with optimum placement (example middle of the magazine) which costs are around $2,000 a month and run that ad for say 12 months. Plus they do tons of online advertisement (most sites charge per click, which can run you into the thousands per month), scrolling banners, multiple sites, heck even late night TV informercials (those can costs hundreds of thousands). They are everywhere and I am happy with that.
I mean look at MFC's business. They pay the models 50% and still manage to do very well. They are well advertised, have tons of traffic and the owner still literally rolls in money for himself! Quite frankly that's one of the only good things I can say about MFC; they have the right percent of model pay vs. traffic costs/ownership.
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I feel ya! I left dancing after dealing with assholes five nights a week....In the last month of dancing, I had a guy grab me by the throat, guys grabbing at my ass every chance they got, guys getting their dicks out (and acting SHOCKED when I ended the dance) and finally, one guy who followed me out of the club when I was going home.
I'm so much happier camming - there are some frustrations, like the percentage cut, and the lack of other people to work with (it may sound crazy, but on bad nights, the DJ was always there to cheer me up, and if I just needed a break, five minutes with one of the other girls got me back on track...I miss that when I work alone!)...and being at home takes some getting used to (especially for my boyfriend, who is used to having the place to himself at night)...BUT these are hugely outweighed by the safety, the block button, the ability to work at home, not having to go out when it rains, not having to answer to a manager or house mom...and did I mention the safety?
My one big issue is the money - going from making $400 cash by dropping into the club for 2hrs to spending 2hrs online and making $80 that I won't actually get my hands on for a month is hard....I just have to keep reminding myself that I'm new, and the money will keep getting better. And that the money I would make stripping only counts if I would actually go into the club and make it, instead of calling off work every night because I had had enough...
The future is cam-shaped!