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Make MyFreeCams Follow the RULES!
Well, here's a chance for those who want to do something to do something.
Here's a petition to change the way MFC does business. To force them to take responsibility and not put the law enforcement burden on their camgirls.
A way to stop the free masturbation and maybe even put the Genie back in the bottle and take camming back to the days before FREE shows.
If you want to help there are a TON of ways you can. Some will follow in thsi thread.
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Firstly, how do we get camgirls from sites all over to sign this?
Will you twitter it daily? Those with MFC Mail, can Mail every girl online. It might make the ones giving shows for free something to think about. Especially if they get mail from 20 other MFC girls.
Blog it, talk about it, tell customers and others to sign it...if it reaches even a few hundred sigs, we call attention to it on MFC and mail Leo about it and shit.
It will make a difference.
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I signed it. That site has so much potential, but it's being trashed and made a circus out of with these free shows that guys record for free, kids jerk off to, etc.... Keep it classy people! And don't post rules if you can't enforce them..that's ridiculous. Until they seriously start penalizing offenders, the models that do it won't stop. Not sure that will ever happen over there.
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I'll sign and will give some thought as to how to reach other people in the community (wording will make such a difference as to weather we piss other girls off or connect with them!) because although I'm fairly new it almost feels like the decline in earnings is daily - it IS impossible to make any decent income while there are free shows going on. I don't even bother logging is I see too many sybians going on in the homepage, haha. And that, while it gives a modest amount of money to the girls ding it, hits the bottom line of the website, because for every tipper making it worth it for the girl, there are literally hundreds (just look at the room users!) getting a free show where they would otherwise be paying to stroke themselves. I've been thinking both the site and the girls would be making a lot more money if users were a bit more spread out (because hey, if the tips have already reached x for the girls to do whatever, why pay once they get there, right?).
Its just perverting the whole reason camming's a good business - on EVERY social website created that has the slightest sexual hint, what do you get? a sausage fest. Girls (especially the attractive ones weather in looks or personality) will only be there if there's money in for them. So some geniuses figured they could have guys pay for a balance in numbers... and it worked brilliantly! Why ruin it? On the long run, guys will just get far too used for something for nothing again.
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Do you really think MFc is going to listen to some online petition.
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Depends on the numbers...the petition is all about making noise Minnie, MFC will listen if the NOISE level gets too high...
What NEEDS to happen is that ONE mother needs to complain to the State's Attorney for their state and for that to become an issue. ONE Child who watched a girl fuck herself with a Zucchini with NO disclaimer or anything....and the free shows end FOREVER...
One brave woman willing to make a call to the State's Attorney's office....the police...the local news...etc. The same can be done for SM and the pop-ups with VaginaCam....
Make it so ALL the camsites have nothing too sexual without pay. You fix the entire cam industry.
MUCH better than a petition.
But that's all we got right now....So we'll do the best we can...
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Minnie, I'm not holding my breath either , but it's a nice thought. I don't blame the gals for doing what they do to make money on there, but the fact is, they shouldn't have to even go that far and be competitive in that manner. I don't want to see MFC go away, it has a lot of potential. They want to make money, so why let guys with no credit cards or any way to pay watch in the first place? That I don't get..Those dudes are NEVER going to pay and will feed off the guys who can. Sorry, but providing free porn isn't exactly a charitable cause.
Even though I don't like IMLIVE much anymore, I will give them credit for enforcing their rules more than most sites do, whether it be in the forums (damn they would delete some stuff that wasn't even that bad, but they were on it like flies) or models who violated rules consistently. Eventually, they would be gone, not always, but some did get permanently kicked off the site.
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Honestly, I don't want MFC to enforce the rules. The non-enforcement that allows me to make money however I see fit night-to-night is why I enjoy camming on MFC. There are plenty of sites girls can earn money on that only allow nudity/shows in private. I love being able to decide between public or private on any give night.
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its not like the customers of MFC are going to sign it sinc ethey are happy with what MFC offers. and since MFC and most webcam sites are studio driven those girls don't even know they have options.
you do realize majority of the models on a webcam site are from studios in countries like columbia, and russia.
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minniesoporno
Do you really think MFc is going to listen to some online petition.
Well it doesn't hurt to at least try. It's one thing for models to complain all the time about the rule-breaking.....actually TRYING to DO something about it is something I commend Bambalina for.
I'll sign it, Bambalina. :)
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Bamb, there are 2 things that I am curious what you will say about
1. if MFC says " ok, we will change the rules.. the new rule is :there is no rule!" then what? no one can complain about not making $$ there or anywhere because of how MFC does business...
2. Not long ago and I assume currently too, you were (are ) in the process of creating your website and you were (are) inviting us to join it. And you were (are) asking us to maybe, possibly "steal" customers from any sites that we can.. including and recommended MFC ( since there are no rules there)...
Im confused... why the petition now?
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Fridays
Bamb, there are 2 things that I am curious what you will say about
1. if MFC says " ok, we will change the rules.. the new rule is :there is no rule!" then what? no one can complain about not making $$ there or anywhere because of how MFC does business...
2. Not long ago and I assume currently too, you were (are ) in the process of creating your website and you were (are) inviting us to join it. And you were (are) asking us to maybe, possibly "steal" customers from any sites that we can.. including and recommended MFC ( since there are no rules there)...
Im confused... why the petition now?
Great questions!
1. If I am correct (and I'm telling you guys, I am) MFC CANNOT say there is no rules.
See the law is vague, and very new as far as sites like MFC go. MFC is counting on the fact that the law slightly favors them right now.
How?
Well, if MFC makes a rule that says Hardcore sexual action in public is absolutely forbidden. And they can show at least a FEW times they have enforced it or fined models or given out suspensions (and they have, in spates, 2 or 3 different times), then MFC can declare they are doing what they can to stop the independent contractors who use their system as a conduit from doing anything illegal, and that makes the GIRLS responsible for breaking the law.
If you are on MFC, you signed a contract promising to abide by the rules and keep it legal for minors. If you break that contract the law enforcement will come down on YOU.
So, at this moment, MFC is *pretty* safe from being raided and taken down, and the girls are in imminent danger of being arrested, since MFC has your info and will be forced to provide it to law enforcement. And the funny thing is, for you ladies who do shows in free? They very likely could have ALREADY recorded the evidence against you. Interesting....
NOW...MFC removes ALL rules and says "Go for it girls, we are ALLOWING you to do illegal things on our site in front of minors since we have no blocking"
Guess who is THEN responsible legally? Guess how long MFC stays up with those rules? I wouldn't bet on 2 weeks.
So, short answer...they CANNOT make there be NO rules or they then are breaking the law when you shove a champagne bottle in yer butt in free chat in front of little johnny.
The phone company doesn't go to jail when you make a drug deal on the phone...They didn't break the law...a User did....
This forum doesn't get raided and shut down because 2 users traded child porn in the private messages.
4chan is still there, and motherless.com is still there, because they are not directly responsible for the actions of their users, so long as they attempt to moderate and remove illegal content.
MFC, same deal...You PROMISED nothing overly sexual in free chat, and when you break that promise, YOU break the law. You are NOT an employee! You are an INDEPENDENT contractor.
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2. I'm creating websites where you are invited to steal as many customers as you'd like. Why? Because I don't make a percentage of your income for the life of your time on my sites.
I will get paid by you monthly to provide you with webcam hungry traffic. The more of you that sign up and the more of you that pay me, the more traffic I will provide. If you can get the site to have 10k girls paying an average of $25 per month, I will be pulling in $250k per month and GUARANTEEing you all $50k will go, every month to promotion. links, buying traffic and every other form of bringing you customers I can do. And if I do my job you can make THOUSANDS per month, and I only get $25 of it..EVER, no matter how much you make.
It's gonna be REAL REAL hard to get 10k girls. But it shouldn't be too hard to get 200, and I can do a WHOLE LOT of promotion with the $1000 per month and just a little co-operation from you ladies.
So, if my business model is viable...and I can do well with it, and you can do well with it. Why the FUCK would any of you accept so much less? 65% of your money...every dollar forever...taken from you...SM...who then owns ALL your content...
I want to own NONE of your content...I will however ask you for content to use for promotion, and it will be LABELED with YOUR URL and how to see YOU if you give it to me...And you can ALWAYS opt out and NOT provide me with promo stuff...your loss in that sense...
Because I want everyone to WIN, not Bambalina wins and the girls all lose.
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So you all kinda know that argument from me already, right?
There is no such thing as stealing customers from a camsite. If the camsite cannot pay you a fair wage enough to keep you and the customer there, they are OBVIOUSLY not doing their job.
You do as much work or more to gain the customer, seduce the customer, keep the customer, yet according to the camsite you OWN no RIGHTS at ALL to the customer, and telling them your twitter address is "STEALING"...Ridiculous on every level.
Do any of you actually spend major amounts of time "stealing customers" from AW? If so, I bet the number is still MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH lower than those who "steal" from MFC, and THAT number is hugely lower than those who "steal" from SM. The less the pay, the more unfair the conditions, the greater impetus to move customers to higher paying venues. Right? It's obvious.
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Now, all that being said yet again...
Free shows on MFC are KILLING camming. Let me repeat this and read my virtual lips (fingertips as they type)...
Free shows of full insertion and masturbation are DESTROYING camming and in a few years, if not stopped, will make this job a stupid low paying shit job that ONLY eastern bloc/asian/south american studios will do.
So, no matter how much I like you personally, if you do those shows, you are cutting your own throat for money today by destroying the possibility of money in the future, and you are the enemy of all savvy camgirls everywhere.
Before you argue...Lets look at it...MFC does this and MFC is without doubt one of the hardest camsites to do well at...only certain types of girls with a certain types of hustle do really well there...or girls who do the free shows for hundreds of guys and get paid by a few out of every hundred in their room and thus make money by getting HUGE crowds.
This makes for HUGE crowds of men who CUM at your insertion/masturbation show. All of those men are potential customers, and I know for a damn fact, because I research it and watch traffic, that a LOT of guys sitting in Candy Cane's damn Lesbo Shower show at the end of the month, are TIPPERS, and guys who USED to take girls I worked with PRIVATE..and now don't show up and do that, but show up at free insertion shows instead. And get off for free...cuz WHY SHOULD THEY PAY!?
Now, lets look at step 2 of the destruction of camming.
You have SM, which was a shithole who pays 35%, but the shithole was greedy and never allowed ANYTHING in free chat. Right? And everyone made BANK there and there was WAY less freeloaders.
Now SM, comepletely because they have to compete with MFC allows penetration/masturbation/close-up pussy shows and doesn't fine/suspend/ban anymore really...and also has them popping up on sites for FREE as promotion.
So, once the 3 biggest cam sites have it, how long do you ladies think it will be before ALL camsites have to allow it or guys won't come?
And then add in...How many customers has MFC "stolen" from sites that don't allow sexual conduct in free chat? And now how many is SM "stealing"?
This can only lead to more sites with more and more free content and sexual stuff on them, and camming turning extremely more and more aggressive and sexual, and then a republican gets in office and the BUSTS start to shower down on GIRLS and they are going to jail.
Tell me this isn't leading to the death of camming as we know it...and in no way leading to something better, and ONLY leading to (at the very least) something worse. And the MEN who own these sites don't care, since they are millionaires many times over, and make money off your content forever even after the camsites are gone.
Do you realize that MFC and SM gather over 1000 hours of FREE hardcore privates and shows and such PER DAY, and own the rights to sell them forever?? To put up tube sites run totally by advertising and use YOU fucking yourself as the content??
You guys are in the middle of a nightmare and you don't realize it, because it still pays better than working as a waitress...but your evil overlords are making MILLIONS off you and plan to make millions off YOU even after these sites go the way of the fucking dodo bird.
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So keep stealing custies from MFC...we don't want to shut MFC down, we want to make MFC be responsible and protect camming for the damn future.
We want to protect camgirls from prosecution, since once that starts it will NEVER end up good for any of us.
We want to make these pricks take responsibility for the shit they put in the world, since they get the benefit of the MILLIONS of dollars.
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well, its actually not illegal to do public shows. there are tens of thousands of XXX sites that have no verification and they are still up and running... and have been for many many years.
if a cam girl wants to protect herself, all she needs to do is not do public shows. it's that simple.
all that is required right now via legislation is that xxx sites keep their records in order that all models are above the legal age... it's the parents' responsibility to enforce their childrens' internet habits. that't the official stance of the federal government at this time, so no cam girl should fear.
long story short, cam girls have no more liability than MFC or any other site does. you can fuck yourself silly in public show if thats you prerogative and it's not in the least bit illegal at the current time.
might that change in the future? possibly. but right now, other than moral or ethical grounds, there is nothing in the least bit wrong with it if that's how you hustle.
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well, its actually not illegal to do public shows. there are tens of thousands of XXX sites that have no verification and they are still up and running... and have been for many many years.
all that is required right now via legislation is that xxx sites keep their records in order that all models are above the legal age... it's the parents' responsibility to enforce their childrens' internet habits. that't the official stance of the federal government at this time, so no cam girl should fear.
long story short, cam girls have no more liability than MFC or any other site does. you can fuck yourself silly in public show if thats you prerogative and it's not in the least bit illegal at the current time.
Untrue when you take into account community standards and local and state laws which can be used to prosecute you.
However, this sidesteps the main point of what I am saying and the very fact that what YOU do hurts camming overall. If you purposefully get guys off in free chat, then you are sibverting the very ideas that underlie camming. THAT is the main point, and while COPA was struck down, there are still provisions of law that recognize that display of pornography to a minor is not legal. Otherwise Hustler would sell to 12 year olds...why do they not? Look it up...because to provide info that is incorrect, because the Federal laws are unclear, is irresponsible.
Again I ask...Why is the Adult Bookstore over 21? Why are Strip-clubs Age restricted? Because in this country, it is community standards which determine the Obscenity or lack thereof. So tell me you fucking yourself on open cam in front of a minor won't be judged as obscene in West Virginia or Tennessee. If one parent files a complaint with the State's Attorney in a conservative jurisdiction, the house of cards comes down. Mark my words.
Ladies, be smart...don't ruin your business and don;t chance being the one prosecuted.
Lastly, those rules you agreed to in contract form, meaningless eh? We'll see. (Just ask yourself WHY MFC has you agree to all that, and then completely encourages you to break the rules...)
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One thing we do agree on however, is that Federal enforcement of laws is almost non-existent, and local enforcement is close to non-existent. Thusfar. And probably for the forseeable future of Obama.
However, MFC is not immune to 200 or 2000 camgirls telling their stories and making their complaints, and submitting story ideas to the news outlets of this fine country.
It is also not immune to a nice "60 minutes" expose with the reporters chasing Leo into his mansion asking why they make porn available to minors and such. It would definitely make GOOD TV....eh?
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But don't most the girls who give public shows only start the show after making a certain amount of tips? Say like "3000 tips till public show starts". I mean doesn't that mean the customers are still paying? and then the show only lasts 10 minutes.
on my first day at MFC, i was telling guys if they wanted 2 see me naked to take me to group/private. these bunch of premiums were talking about me and saying "when is she going to learn she will make much more off tips in public" :-\ and this other guy says "its her first day she will learn soon" :O
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I wonder what would happen if MFC did ever enforce its rules. It is REALLY hard to think of MFC the "Jerry Springer" of cam sites following the rules ever :P Anywho I signed it.
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TeenageAnnie
But don't most the girls who give public shows only start the show after making a certain amount of tips? Say like "3000 tips till public show starts". I mean doesn't that mean the customers are still paying? and then the show only lasts 10 minutes.
Right. There are no girls giving "free" shows. Even those girls who do publics only do so after an exuberant amount of money is raised for the show... and nearly always these amounts far exceed the price of a private show total for the same length of a cum show.
Private 10 minute cum show = $50
Public 10 minute cum show = as much money as you want.
The top girls who do publics charge $250-1000 for a 10 minute cum show.
MFC is NOT stating unenforced rules to avoid CRIMINAL litigation, they are doing it to avoid CIVIL litigation. In other words they do not want to be sued and lose money. There are no local, state, or federal laws that police the internet outside of child pornography, and a few other illegal activities--and of course 2257 records compliance.
This is the truth for each and every model: If you do not like the MFC structure, unenforced rules, Leo as the "boss", etc... go to another cam site! MFC is not a monopoly and it goes without saying that you can work at TONS of other cam sites that have rules that you will like...
People need to stop fretting about what other people do--worry about yourself! The truth is when anyone complains about what a Jenny Potter, Agent 99, Aspen Rae, Jocelyn Rae, etc, etc do in public, it doesn't sound like true concern, it sounds like JEALOUSY.
If you are not comfortable with public nudity or cum shows, DON'T DO THEM. If the fact you are on a site that allows it makes you toss and turn at night, LEAVE THE SITE! The online world is the same as the real world--if people spent half as much time worry about themselves as they do others, they would be twice as productive. Envy will prevent you from ever reaching your full potential.
Bambalina, furthermore, I'm quite disturbed by your desire of an "expose" 60 minutes style on MFC and Leo. Do you not understand that MOST girls on MFC enjoy a certain amount of anonymity from the general public (such as blocking their own states) and that a big public exposure of MFC would DESTROY that?
A girl who is secretly making good money on MFC could suddenly find 60 minutes or other news organizations exposing her! THAT'S JUST WRONG!
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I do well on MFC and I don't do public shows at all. I banks with group shows and the privates.
Most I do is Flash my tits for 100 tokens.
So I know it is possible to make money by keeping it all legal. I know my boobs, my body is worth seeing in private or group where I know everyone is over the age of 18 years old.
US gov isn't going after the camming community, becuase if they were then the Tube sites would have been shut down years ago. Many top porn companies and webmasters tried to get free tube sites shut down. They put real money behind the effort and lawsuits. Yet, tube sites still thrive.
Tube sites killed the porn industry.
Tube sites killed the affliliates marketing part of the porn industry.
Chatting live with a girl is what porn customers what. That direct interaction, MFC gets that and treats the site like a social network. Let's us market our social networks to help build a brand, a name, a following instead of strictly forbidding it like other sites do. MFC is smart enough to know some models have huge followings on social sites, which is DIRECT TRAFFIC for no cost. The traffic I get from Myspace for my site www.Samantha38g.com leads to sales. Well worth my time and efforts.
Bambalina- YOU can buy all the traffic you want, but these days buying traffic is crappy. It is traffic that will NOT convert to sells.
MFC is a 50/50 split, which I find is more than fair.
SM I have tons of custie I recruited and now make 75% off of instead of just the 35%. I dont bitch about the split, because I go out and hustle for custies. I think it is awesome they give us that opportunity to make more money on our own.
MFC makes me up my game with being a better entertainer to get them to take me prvt witout doing free crap.
SM helps me up my marketing game into $$$.
In this economy, in these times of porn depression, it is up to you to up your game. The days of being lazy and making money for doing very little on cam is over. Camming industry has changed over the past 4 years. The porn industry has vastly changed over the past 4 years. The world economy has changed dastically over the past few years.
We have to change with it or get left behind. We have to change how we operate our business model to roll with the times.
You can't expect the cam companies to do everything for you. You have to brand yourself. You have to do tons of marketing to up your sales.
I say stop bitching & get to working.
Bambalina- build your network. Work it any way you want to. Here you have been complaining months on here yet no site? So stop working for other cam companies & just work for yourself. If you were so good at being an independent cam girl as you preach about then you wouldn't need to STEAL customers at all from any cam company.
No petition is going to get any company to change how they opperate. You tried to do a strike but that went no where.
The fact that you think there is 10,000 cam girls who are going to sign up to your site is delusional. I have looked at most of the cam sites out there, mainly it is the same gals working all of them. Cam sites numbers show every gal how has signed up to their site to work. They never remove a name, image or delete them from the total number of girls listed. Even if the model has not worked for the site in over a year. Their numbers lie to induce men into thinking there are more girls working on the site than there is in real time.
If I dont like something in the porn industry, I change it. I got companies cam or porn to rewrite contracts, a major porn company to drop a dvd line I found extremely bad taste against bbws. Seems to me those who bitch the most, do the least to actually change it.
Fact, is if you don't like the way a company does business then STOP working for them. I didn't like how Imlive operated on many levels, so I dont work for them.
Smooches,
Sam
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Bambi, you're my hero. I wish my greed and pessimism didn't overcome my need to do what's right. I do public shows on MFC so I'm not going to sign the petition because that would be hypocritical and honestly you're scaring me a little. That's my bread butter, and i'm on a gravy train right now that's bringing in more than above a meager waitress income. But I can't say anything to disagree with you. It's almost as if I'm at a point of,well....it's the way of the world,and you gotta get in where you fit in. I look at it this way, on streamate i would have to do over 50 shows to earn 100-200 dollars. It's tiring, it's painful, and repititive. On MFC i'll set my topic to 2000 for a strip, and do a group show for penetration which will bring in another 2000 tokens, plus all the tips in between. So that just earned me about 250 for 1 sex show i did. It's so much more money, so much more entertaining, and less drama to my pussy. All i have to sacrifice is my privacy and the security that hundreds of guys are watching me for free and could do whatever they want,record...tube site it...etc...But i do feel shitty sometimes. A lot of times when my show gets going i'm at around 1000 guys in my room and realistically only 5-6 guys have been the ones really doing the tipping. So it does make me feel shitty that so many are watching for me, so i can only think of it as publicity.
I'll tell you I've met Leo a few times and he did talk to me about some rules that I was breaking. All though he didn't tell me to absolutely stop, he did heighten my awareness of i should be careful. I asked him, what's going on with all the rules that get broken and his answer was they do the best they can, but it's hard to catch everyone and stop everything. He's not what you think he is, maybe he's someone highly motivated by money but aren't we all. I don't think exposing him on television would do anything. Do I trust him with my child? no, but he's a hell of a lot better than most of the "bosses" on the many cam sites i worked for.
But I agree, the public shows might be what's ruining the industry but the public shows are not mandatory. So who do we try to control, the girls or the sites, both whom are motivated by money. It reminds me of a strip club. To me,extras ruined the strip club industry. You couldn't stop it, it was rampant everywhere that if clubs fired all the girls who were caught doing extras, they'd barely have any girls. The girls who don't do extras can't keep up with those who do so they either leave the club or start doing extras. This industry never fixed in my eyes, a strip club would be my suggestion to anyone who wants to get a handy or maybe a date after the club. I'm just saying, it's a vicious cycle that unfortunately i dont think can be fixed. MFC is a hard site to work on, if girls can't keep up,they shouldn't. Try another site. Some girls on MFC have found a formula for success that may include public shows, if you can't find a formula to work for you,don't downgrade the site by implementing the same formula but diluting it by making things much cheaper and practically free.
But as someone mentioned before, cam sites are primarily filled with studio accounts from other countries. They don't complain, they don't care, the studio bosses are probably the ones encouraging the rule breaking. So much money comes from studio accounts that you really can't say shit to them if you are a site owner who's trying to make money. I'm sure Leo knows the severity of what consequences will happen if he were to be punished for the rule breaking on the site and it's probably not big enough for him to take action.
Good luck to you Bambi, you're truly a pioneer in our industry i just wish we weren't all motivated by the need to eat so we had options and didn't have to cling on to one site and their lack of rules. In a perfect world.....
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^^ What Sam said.
I don't believe free shows are killing camming. I do believe free shows are changing camming. This petition reminds me of the RIAA doing its best to keep the old model of the music industry in place without realizing that the entire industry has already changed.
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My opinion- The same problems we have with our government is the same problem we have with cam companies and their bullshit. Simple and plain.. every one is so happy to have what they have, that they don't dare ask for more; which results in the powers that be, being able to make your decisions for you. They can play favorites, choose when you get paid, how you get paid, how MUCH you get paid, IF you get paid, steal your content, and basically sit back and enjoy watching the rats race.
Everyone wants to bitch about the free shows, the 30%, the stolen content, the tube sites, etc.
Yet, only a handful of those who say they care about those issues- actually TRY to do something about it.
Sure, you can go independent. Go for it. Membership sites are shit right now... What do you do? Troll the fucking internet all day in hopes of making $100? At the end of the day.. you haven't made any money, you hop on MAINSTREAM to make ANY bit you can.
This is the same reason that the government is slowly taking away our 'rights' and 'freedoms'. There's just not enough people out there with the intelligence, motivation, or BALLS to make a change.. when all those people really need is a following of dedicated people, aware of the issues and willing to back up the ringleader, to make a change. And fortunately enough for us, we have a competent ring leader.
CHANGE has been the theme since Obama got in office. Where's the fucking change? We're still at war, still broke, still scared shitless about the outcome.. WELL WHAT DO YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU AREN'T WILLING TO FIGHT FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR FELLOW WOMAN?
For Sam38g- I don't care if Bambalina has been talking about this shit for the past 10 years.. her, and those who are close to her, are PISSED and WILLING to try to KICK PEOPLE IN THE ASS to get the fucking point out there. WE HAVE BAMBALINA. She knows her shit. And she will make sure that other people know, that she knows her shit. Stand behind her, she obviously has good intentions for all of us. It's people like you that try to make the opposite of change happen by trying to directly attack the intentions and intelligence of someone who is trying to help you.
The government is GREAT at swaying people to vote for shit that doesn't make sense. Kind of like the 'free healthcare'.... "We'll give you all free health care! (as long as you don't practice your right to bear arms.. but we won't tell the voters directly that's what is going to happen)"
If you aren't willing to fight the good fight.. then you deserve to be used as a sheep.
CHANGE only HAPPENS when there are enough people willing to FIGHT for it.
If you aren't willing to be a part of the CHANGE.. then you are a part of the PROBLEM.
Just my opinion. ::)
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^^ What Sam said.
I don't believe free shows are killing camming. I do believe free shows are changing camming. This petition reminds me of the RIAA doing its best to keep the old model of the music industry in place without realizing that the entire industry has already changed.
Im sorry but in the end the laws havent changed and sooner or later some parent is going to sue them because of their children.....thats why most sites do what they do....it will happen.
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COPA was struck down in 2009.