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Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
I'm not here to complain, just to confirm what a lot of models are saying. After a handful of sessions of Party Chat, spaced out over a few weeks, I've decided not to use it anymore. I could list the reasons why it's not working for a lot of people, but anyone watching other models online knows why.
I did a 15 minute lead, $1/min show with good content listed. I said I would take the show if I got to a certain goal, and I would add special things to the show if I got to a higher goal. I didn't even get the lower goal and, ladies, I don't have issues with making money on this site. I mean, sometimes I have to work harder certain days or weeks to make my weekly goal, but most of the time I do anyway.
But this last time I had a room full of-- not beggars, but rude muthas. I blocked FIVE people because it was obvious they were intentionally being assholes. Just saying the most rude, obscure shit. I don't usually block people in Party Chat b/c they could potentially pay, but this time it was really bad, and with this format all the guys can see what they're saying and then others join in with the rudeness. I was being very polite, wasn't making fun of anyone or isolating anyone. There was no reason for it. Of course, I wasn't sticking my junk in the cam either, and I know that pisses off a lot of the guys & they get real aggressive.
Sometimes it seems that there's competition between models. I don't mess with others online, but I've had others mess with me. Even had another US model who kept stealing everything I did in my shows and using it in hers, word-for-word & move-for-move; have had two models steal my profile description word-for-word. Get an imagination, right? So I wondered if that's what was going on. Because I've never had such a bunch of jerks in my room at one time. Models trying to discourage one another? Maybe I'm narcissistic for thinking they care enough to mess with me. But if that's the case, and they read this site, they should know that even if I never use Party Chat again, I WILL still make just as much money as before. But I refuse to degrade myself by charging 20 cents/min to make my goal or showing my pu$$y in free chat and risking my account.
I felt really defeated after this last Party Chat, but that defeated feeling didn't last long. Because I realized that there are things more important than money. Not that I really care, at the end of the day, what the guys think of me, but I stuck with my goal and didn't take the show unless I decided how much I would make was worth my time and dozens of guys watching me, and I didn't further damage what could otherwise be a wonderful feature by charging completely ridiculously low prices. As someone said in another post, I can just be content with knowing/showing that I'm a classy woman and I am catering to the classier guys... and STILL paying my bills.
Yea for positive thinking....... right?
By the way, I'm interested in trying another cam site but I'm totally confused about the sites where guys pay you for stuff in the free chat room. They tried that on SM (called GOLD) and it led-- within a week-- to models begging for gold, showing EVERYTHING in free chat for $1 (well, 35 cents really), and guys begging for flashing, bjs, etc when they rarely did that before. I was on the site before then, and I never had an issue with it before. All the sudden I had guys calling me a bitch b/c I wouldn't show my shit in free chat for 35 cents.
So is that basically how it is on other sites? I'm thinking probably not, but I'm concerned about switching to another site just to have the same thing. Because I have watched SM deteriorate steadily over the past year or so. I had a lot of fun on there at first, and now I have some really great customers still, but it's mostly guys trying to get a free private show, and guys who get super mean and aggressive when I refuse to work for free. I want to like camming again, but I think the environment on SM is just getting ugly. I know there's a lot of ppl who disagree w/ me, but that's my experience. So input on the other sites you ladies work on is SO appreciated.
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
I haven't had a room full of rude muthas, sorry to hear you did. That's uncalled for, but kind of expected every now and then. I have learned to stay close to the monitor, kick every bossy, non-pledging a-hole out..One even came back, apologized, and dropped 80 gold so I could make my goal. That's rare but shows that some do know how to redeem themselves and it's appreciated.
I'm pretty much over PC too. I'll do it at the end of a shift, just for an extra bonus. I wish we could choose to not let them see what others are saying and see how that plays out. Only have them see who is pledging and who isn't.
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
I'm sorry to hear about the abusive pricks on SM. I had a guy enter my room twice under two different names, talking shit about how I'm a traitor to Black people and that I "worship" White dick (Huh???), and he said he hopes I get raped by one.
On all of these sites there's guys who are cool, and then there's SCUM. A lot of these guys probably can't get pussy in real life (unless they paid for it), because they treat women so horribly and probably put their foot in their mouth everytime they're near women. :P
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
Well today was a good day to do PC, so maybe I'm not 100% over it. LOL..not when I'm making my goal. I actually had some VERY nice guys in my room for a change and blocked one who said he would give me 150, then he tries to take me private twice and pulls the 30 second crap each time.
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
I love the money PC brings but I hate the assholes or maybe models that come in acting foolish. I had to block 2 ppl for calling me a hoe and trash for no reason. I really think its a model doing that shit because it only happens during countdowns.
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
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Originally Posted by
Ms.Lacey
I love the money PC brings but I hate the assholes or maybe models that come in acting foolish. I had to block 2 ppl for calling me a hoe and trash for no reason. I really think its a model doing that shit because it only happens during countdowns.
Jealous, hatin' bitches need to stay outta other models' rooms and worry about their own shit. Shit like that is the reason most girls on MFC don't let other models in their room. And one of my big tippers was telling me about how he's gotten PMs from models (trying to get some money out of him) when he was in my room.
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
You're right about not letting other models in the room. When I was still pretty new, I tried to be nice to other models, and if I saw a new US model on, I even offered advice and encouragement. Then I got fucked with so much, that I stopped doing that. It wasn't the models I offered advice to who fucked with me, but other people.
And there was this one who I talked to online all the time. She would come talk to me in my room and I came and talked to her in her room. Then I blocked her by accident one day b/c she had changed her name to something obnoxious, apparently as a joke, and was in my free chat. She told me about it and I unblocked her from chat but not from messages. (That's how u can find the name changers). Then, when I looked at my block list, I figured out she was coming into my private show to spy on me and just changing her name. She tried to make a bunch of drama out of it, and I just blocked her account. I don't need the drama, you know? I was just trying to be nice and someone took advantage.
So now, if any model comes into my room, he/she/they are blocked from both chat and messages so they can't even see my page anymore. I hate to be like that, but I'm not on there for drama... just to make money.
AND that's why I don't tell anyone on here who I am or what my name is on SM. Because I like to feel like I have people to talk to but I don't have to deal with the drama. I was alone in camming for more than a year, and I'm glad to have somewhere to write about it.
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
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Originally Posted by
Cam_Model_Jess
You're right about not letting other models in the room. When I was still pretty new, I tried to be nice to other models, and if I saw a new US model on, I even offered advice and encouragement. Then I got fucked with so much, that I stopped doing that. It wasn't the models I offered advice to who fucked with me, but other people.
And there was this one who I talked to online all the time. She would come talk to me in my room and I came and talked to her in her room. Then I blocked her by accident one day b/c she had changed her name to something obnoxious, apparently as a joke, and was in my free chat. She told me about it and I unblocked her from chat but not from messages. (That's how u can find the name changers). Then, when I looked at my block list, I figured out she was coming into my private show to spy on me and just changing her name. She tried to make a bunch of drama out of it, and I just blocked her account. I don't need the drama, you know? I was just trying to be nice and someone took advantage.
So now, if any model comes into my room, he/she/they are blocked from both chat and messages so they can't even see my page anymore. I hate to be like that, but I'm not on there for drama... just to make money.
AND that's why I don't tell anyone on here who I am or what my name is on SM. Because I like to feel like I have people to talk to but I don't have to deal with the drama. I was alone in camming for more than a year, and I'm glad to have somewhere to write about it.
Same here. I like flying under the radar. :)
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
i agree with you ladies..but im not so discrete lol... when i started my single profile back up i had the first person come in telling me what i should and shouldn't charge, how i should talk and what to do i let her ass have it, and after had rude ass bitches come in my room just disrespectful.
I agree you should block they ass, but me?" i like having at least 1 person to curse out a day
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
Other models are watching out for each other and won't tolerate model drama....
Example: I was just watching Diamond James because I think she is a classy lady. Some loser posts in her room : "HEY GUYS....WATCH OUT FOR A MODEL NAMED "A***_A***S" (I deleted some of her name) ...SHE IS HAVING A MELTDOWN....ONLY WORTH 5 , BUT KEEPS TRYING FOR 10" . Diamond banned his ass and another female name spoke up and said "don't trash other models" ..... That's nice... I like how she handles her room. I disagree with her having a goal of $500 (5 gold for 12 min) , and cancelling twice even though she hit $350 the second time around. That's not too bad! Gosh I'd LOOOVE to have $350. LOL..
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
lol i think i know who your talking about kittykrane
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
you should be sending this feedback to streamate, because if they get feedback from girls who enjoy party chat the site will use it pemenately.
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
arent they already going to use it permanently
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
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Originally Posted by
exquizit
arent they already going to use it permanently
They have already said it's going to be a permanent feature.
I'd like to see hosts use it as a tease rather than a full show. I do the $5 for 5 minutes with a short countdown and will get new customers and privates later that way. I don't feel like they should get a full long show for that cheap.
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
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Originally Posted by
exquizit
arent they already going to use it permanently
no right now its in a testing phased I emailed them about it and they said only certain models are selected for it and they aren't rolling it out permanately.
but if everyone just sits here complaining about what they don't like on a particular site they will never know and never change it.
i.e cams.com once upon a time got rid of being able to see what customers have to spend they brought it back based on model request.
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
I need to email them about seeing if we can have the gold show information box pop up elsewhere (or be movable) to somewhere else on the screen. Especially the warning box for the last minute. I'll have guys typing and I can't see what they are saying. sometimes that's important!
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
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Originally Posted by
laurielegs
I'd like to see hosts use it as a tease rather than a full show. I do the $5 for 5 minutes with a short countdown and will get new customers and privates later that way. I don't feel like they should get a full long show for that cheap.
As always, I agree with you. I really like the way you think! I'd totally do the $5 for 5 minutes thing, and maybe have it be a naked oil show (guys on MFC LOVE that shit!). 8)
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
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Originally Posted by
kittykrane
I need to email them about seeing if we can have the gold show information box pop up elsewhere (or be movable) to somewhere else on the screen. Especially the warning box for the last minute. I'll have guys typing and I can't see what they are saying. sometimes that's important!
I totally agree. Can't see anything they're saying or who donates in the last minute. And i like to thank each one w/ his name &can't. I keep track of who donated even if i don't take the show, so i miss some names.
Also, i don't like how the chat disappears when the show ends. I didn't have a chance to take screen shots in my last show of those customers' rude comments, or of the paying guys' names.
About not taking shows when u reach a percentage of goal ($350 of $500), i can see y it seems a model should take that but think abt it.. $350 is $122 after SM's cut. She spent 30 min in free & would have to spend x number of minutes showing it all to 35 or 70 guys. I think first abt the money, but i also think abt how many guys might be less likely to pay my regular price (whatever that is) if they can see me once a day for $1/min or 67 cents/ min. Just a thought. I know the economics r much more complicated & that's just one aspect...
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
$1 for however many minutes - between 5 and 10 seems to be the going rate today. Can't believe it. I've even seen $1 for 15mins and $1 for 20. I know this was happening before but it's really widespread today. I'm having the day off. The lowest I have ever gone is $5 for 6mins. there is no way I'd have enough people in my room to do $1 gold shows. :( Oh well - good luck girls!
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
Just wanted to set everyone straight about Party Chat. It is in BETA TESTING. That's it, plain and simple. For those of you obviously less educated, that means nothing is definite yet. It's the first real time testing of new software. Not even SM knows right now if it will be permanent or if it will remain only for selected performers or anything. Yes they likely have an idea of what they want to do but until the beta testing is over and analyzed no one knows the future of party chat on SM.
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
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Originally Posted by
BrownFox
Jealous, hatin' bitches need to stay outta other models' rooms and worry about their own shit. Shit like that is the reason most girls on MFC don't let other models in their room. And one of my big tippers was telling me about how he's gotten PMs from models (trying to get some money out of him) when he was in my room.
Can we say THIRST! lol. I do my best not to pay attention to what others say or do. I'm there to make money...the minute someone says some shit out of line... BLOCKED. I just ignore and don't even bother commenting. I will not let some hating ass broad or some lame ass dude mess up my flow and mood.
Oh yea,I just can't seem to bring myself to doing $1 buy ins for 15-20 minutes...so if PC isn't working for me I just do pvts there are some men who will still pay for a 1-1.
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
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Originally Posted by
TruCamPro
Just wanted to set everyone straight about Party Chat. It is in BETA TESTING. That's it, plain and simple. For those of you obviously less educated, that means nothing is definite yet. It's the first real time testing of new software. Not even SM knows right now if it will be permanent or if it will remain only for selected performers or anything. Yes they likely have an idea of what they want to do but until the beta testing is over and analyzed no one knows the future of party chat on SM.
Yes it is in beta testing, but Streamate staff tweeted that every single host who has a fast enough connection will be getting party chat next month.
I wish people would use it as just a tease rather than these long cheap shows. If it drops their profits down enough though maybe they will consider getting rid of it.
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
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Originally Posted by
laurielegs
Yes it is in beta testing, but Streamate staff tweeted that every single host who has a fast enough connection will be getting party chat next month.
I wish people would use it as just a tease rather than these long cheap shows. If it drops their profits down enough though maybe they will consider getting rid of it.
FALSE!!! I just laugh when people take tweets and forum posts as gospel. Ryan has no idea, his job is to retweet SM models, that's it. Though I don't believe he ever said anything about everyone with proper requirements having it in a month. That's one thing they have learned from the Beta testing, the current server will not support it for that many people.
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
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Originally Posted by
laurielegs
Yes it is in beta testing, but Streamate staff tweeted that every single host who has a fast enough connection will be getting party chat next month.
I wish people would use it as just a tease rather than these long cheap shows. If it drops their profits down enough though maybe they will consider getting rid of it.
Oh and for using it as a short tease......please. I make way more money doing an hour worth of PCs than I do with one PC then pvts for an hour. Another thing SM has learned from beta testing, the models using PC consistently have increased profits by 34%. The numbers don't lie.
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Re: Done with Party Chat. Who has tried SM & prefers a different site?
I think the true problem with party chat is a good handful of models that have party chat basically doing a show in free chat in order to make their goal and in all honesty even then I rarely see them make their goal. I was pretty interested in it and have been watching a lot of models and I see a lot of them pussy out and masturbating just to make like 60 dollars. I also think that is the result of all the rude assholes because they are expecting something more.