NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
Hey ladies!
I am new to stripperweb.. and I love these forums.
I have noticed that a lot of you have rules on how long you should sit with a customer.. and if they dont buy, then move on. But I also read that you should always be sitting with a customer. What if its a super slow night and the only guy available isnt buying? Should I make him feel special for free... or look lonely??
I can't decide which is best.. I prefer not to hide in the DR!
Re: NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
DO NOT sit with a customer that isn't paying you for your time or going for dances just to look busy. You making a customer feel "special" by sitting with him all night for free isn't going to do anyone any good, since he'll come to expect that sort of treatment. Not only is it going to piss off the other girls who he might actually spend money on, but it doesn't really look that good on your part anyway - customers will either expect you to spend a lot of time with them too, or think that you just can't take a hint. There was a girl I worked with who did that, she'd sit with a customer until they finally told her to leave, and other customers noticed and avoided her like the plague. Make yourself look busy by chatting with other staff or dancers, hiding out in the DR or lap dance area for a song or two, or even chatting with the club "furniture" (you know, those club regulars who are always there but never go for dances, but are still nice to talk to for a song or two when there's absolutely fuck all going on).
Re: NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
customers are to pay for your time. if you are sitting with them for free, why should they pay you?
if the only guy who is available isn't paying, why is he not paying? because he has no money? or because he has not been sold successfully?
again, sales skills sales skills sales skills.
also, if your club is that dead, perhaps bring a book to work.
Re: NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
Thanks for the advice...
I've only been doing this for a few months so Im sure ive got a lot to learn! But I think I can safely say I'm one of the top money makers at my club. It's a working class club (that's all that's around here) so we get a lot of customers not willing to spend much. I think bringing a book is my best bet! And yeah... I don't particularly enjoy talking with some of them, but they're better than the regulars... I find regulars to be annoying and worse than the rest of the custies!
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I've brought a book to work before, and also study material for my classes when I was in college. Now I play scrabble (Words with Friends) on my phone.
My club is DEAD in the summer, and it sucks, and it's like working with a bunch of fucking piranhas or sharks. So whenever a custy comes in, you're ass better be with him within 30 seconds or you can lose a sale. Some girls even hustle while outside smoking, so the custy is taken before he walks in the door.
But even so, if he isn't spending, I am NOT sitting with him or her. Don't give your time away for free, no matter how slow it is. You can prime him for stage tips, get a few drinks, but always be getting paid somehow for your time if you are with him.
Re: NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
I like to read the local entertainment newspaper when it's like that.
It friggin' sucks, but when you've already talked to all 5 of the cheap customers in the club, it's something to do to keep you in a good mood. Until Mr. Highroller strolls on in ;)
Re: NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
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Should I make him feel special for free...
The only customers that you should be sitting with for an extended amount of time are your regulars that have spent money in the past.
Never sit with a guy that doesn't spend money on dances or drinks for a few reasons.
Like attracts like. It's not conducive to your bank account to hang out with broke or cheap people. Be friendly and say hello to club regulars if you know or like them, then move on.
Two. You train customers to think that your time is free. It's not.
Don't allow them to come to expect that you will sit there just to be nice because you have nothing to do.
Yes I know they might spend money some other day. But that is not very likely. Don't waste your time on a hope or a promise.
If it's dead go into the dressing room and redo your make up or change outfits. Otherwise be sitting with qualified customers and be scoping out the room if you're not hustling dances from them.
Re: NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
If the club is THAT dead (only one customer who's not buying) then use your time to develop social capital with the club staff. Being well known throughout your club will help you get a leg up for the times when it IS busy.
Re: NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
Great advice here, since I'm a newbie too.
During my first shift I was approaching custies with a confident sexy smile, eye-contact and a friendly opener (per SW!), etc. and feeling them out for if they just wanted some company or a dance. This was quite successful for me.
But I also had a few rejections and time-wasting non-payers whom I quickly figured out and then made an excuse to not sit with (thanks again to SW!). These guys expected me to sit with them without buying a dance, a drink or tipping me for my time.
So my question ... How do I persuasively let custies know that I expect to be paid for my time, even if they're not buying dances? Any tips? Also, none of the custies offered to buy me a drink, even the guys buying dances. Could it be because it was mostly table dances and not longer VIP sessions? I had one customer in VIP for 15mins but he did not offer to buy me a drink either. I'm not a drinker, but it would have been nice - I could've ordered a virgin drink at least. Do I hint at them to buy me a drink ... or ... do I just wait for the custie to offer it?
Thanks for any advice. :)
Re: NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
If they don't offer to buy you a drink (even just a water) take it as your first clue to start wrapping up the conversation.
Re: NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
Yeah, it actually seems like the norm at my club to always be chatting with customers, even if they arent paying. Guys expect it. I had one guy ask me to sit with him who said from the beginning that he.didn't have money. I told him I was at work and kept moving. We get SO many regulars which I'm not a fan of. They don't spend anything and feel entitled to everything! Id like more tips on how to nicely/indirectly asking for money for my time also!....
Re: NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
Yeah, it actually seems like the norm at my club to always be chatting with customers, even if they arent paying. Guys expect it. I had one guy ask me to sit with him who said from the beginning that he.didn't have money. I told him I was at work and kept moving. We get SO many regulars which I'm not a fan of. They don't spend anything and feel entitled to everything! Id like more tips on how to nicely/indirectly asking for money for my time also!....
Re: NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
Honestly, I've benefited from sitting with customers for longer than other girls who sit long enough to introduce themselves and ask for a dance. I think this board had est that LA is a totally different atmosphere so it may not be right for you but I like to sit with a custie for a bit to talk and get to know them, then I go do my own thing, and when I return and try and sell a dance I've pretty much always been successful at selling more than one dance because I've won their trust and they know that I didn't just randomly pick them out from a crowd to ask to dance.
Re: NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
Re: NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
There's a difference between stopping to sit and chat for a song longer than you would normally, to sitting there for half an hour with nothing to show for it.
Re: NEW here... slow nights sitting with cheap custies?
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Originally Posted by
britneyireland
If they don't offer to buy you a drink (even just a water) take it as your first clue to start wrapping up the conversation.
I have to disagree. I've had plenty of guys decline to buy me a drink and still spend money.
My club not only sends waitresses to the tables, but they send them to the lap dance area right before the dance starts.
A lot of guys say "I'm sure you'd rather me tip you" and they are right. I don't care about the club making money off drinks.
I do not believe that refusing to buy me a drink when the waitress asks for me automatically means they are cheap and don't like me. Also, if a waitress asks too soon then they probably don't know if they like me enough to buy a drink.