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LOL! Ehh, I couldn't care less what other sex workers think of me for doing what I do. The negativity is rooted in jealousy / ignorance / insecurity so I reckon it's their problem if they dislike or disapprove of my chosen form of sex work.
Anyway it's not like we go to clubs and drag customers away or do extras for the price of a regular dance like a lot of "strippers" do. haha
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I've just started dancing as well as camming and the girls i've mentioned it to are really curious, most ask how to get into it lol!
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Fridays
"Money talks... Money talks...
Dirty Cash I want you
Dirty Cash I need you oh oh!" :sing: :sing:
I looove 80's songs..:P
Webcamming: welcome to the future. The present world. The now. However, it probably won't be good in a few years when more and more girls join. So keep trying all the new sites so you know which ones are good for you. The ONLY way you'll ever succeed at camming is if you REALLY want to do it and are motivated. It's almost like having a really good paying hourly job. But it takes HARD WORK and lots of EFFORT. Not to mention hours and hours reading up on business and marketing to continue to make the money you're making... and hours and hours of being online actually camming. Stripping, you go to work, make lots of money, and leave it all behind.
Stripping is oldschool to me now. It's too much physical, mental, and emotional work for me. Yes its more anonymous, less XXX, and has a much higher earning potential, but it just wasn't a good fit for me anymore. I have too many health issues, commitments, and a well-being to preserve so I couldn't strip anymore.
They are similar, but very different. Stripping is "easier," WAY more lucrative, but more physically/emotionally/mentally draining. Camming is much harder, requires 30x more work literally, working 8x the amount of hours easily, but less stressful and more convenient (for me).
To each their own.
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Wow, alot of stripper bashing on "STRIPPERweb".. Let's not catergorize all strippers because one girl said something negative about camming.
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kaiarose
Wow, alot of stripper bashing on "STRIPPERweb".. Let's not catergorize all strippers because one girl said something negative about camming.
I'm regretting even starting this thread bc a lot of people took it in a weird and negative way. What that girl said to me is the reality of how some people feel. I just thought it was funny. It just goes to show that there is a lot of hate in the sex industry, and it's not going away.
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U hit every point about y stripping has changed so much!!!
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Hey all I know is I can make a reeeally good livable wage slinging my slightly out of shape pussy on the internet. And I love all my sexworker counterparts. Fuck the hatred. I hate when I hear cam girls say "I'm not a prostitute!" Like babes, stop, just stop. We all sell sex. Be it in person, in a club or online. Le's all just be glad that not everyone is comfortable doing this, any or all of this, and we can all make bank, mmkay?
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I'd never heard any dancers talking like this about webcamming when I was working in the club. Granted, the only girl I ever heard say anything about it was a girl who was considering doing it if she could find space away from her boyfriend to cam in.
On my own personal thoughts after camming for about a month now (still a noob) I much prefer stripping, though both have their pros and cons. With camming I like not usually having to see the customers' faces or have to dodge their hands, but in the club people didn't just ignore me when I'd say hello to them and it was a lot more rare to have guys try to haggle on dance prices or get something for free (not including watching the stage show without tipping) and I didn't offer extras so nothing ever went inside me or anything.
I will say it does seem a little 'dirtier' to me than stripping, probably because there's actual sex acts going on than just teases and occasional false promises. Now obviously I'm still camming and will continue to do so at least until I can go back to dancing, maybe off and on after I go back, so it doesn't bother me much or anything. I do find that I haven't wanted to admit to being a camgirl, when I told pretty much everyone that I was a stripper.
Another big thing of why I prefer stripping to camming is I feel like stripping was easier for me. I'm lazy as shit, I haven't done any advertising or anything since I've started camming and that's definitely effected what I bring in from it. With stripping I could throw all my motivation and focus into one customer at a time, then come home and throw my money at my cats. With dancing after I got the hang of it I did very well, bringing in just a little under what most of the veteran girls in my club were making (the ones being open about what they were taking home anyway) versus with camming it has taken my longer to get a hang of the hustle and without wanting to put in the extra effort to advertise and set up a proper cam room and what not I doubt i'll ever be bringing in the big bucks.
So that's just my thoughts on my own personal experiences of stripping vs camming. That's my personal preference, but I don't judge anyone in any line of the sex industry. We're all sex workers here, we've all got our preferences on how we like to make our money and none is better than the other.
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I was a stripper for 7 years in Atlanta. Camming is different in good ways and bad ways. I miss the girlfriend connection I had with stripping. I wish camgirls wanted to meet and hang out more. Arrange camgirl meets in cities or more reaching out that way. We are all co-workers that never really connect. I miss that. I miss the customer connection too. I really enjoyed sitting with guys, talking and having a drink with them. Stripping is much more "social" Camgirls (I've seen it online and read it in the forums) kind of distance themselves from men, become bitter and almost seem look like they are irritated when you come into their room. With stripping you had to deal closely with the guys, you couldn't kick them, or ban them or turn your head to the ceiling. Camming is more sexual yes. But I don't worry or lose any sleep over "levels of dirtiness" what? I'm touching myself, not the guy. I do think stripping made me a better camgirl. (rather than the other way around I read and see too many bitter camgirls, sorry girls, I do. Almost to where I feel so many camgirls hate men and hate their job) Working customer service made me a better camgirl. And we in food service always said, "you ain't shit until you've worked food service" it taught me that much. Am I rambling again? Maybe this is apples and oranges? In the end I feel the more experience you have with customer service, the better you are with everything in your life.
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This is an old ass thread. And for some reason it wouldn't let me like this post? She wrote this in 2011 and I think she hit it on the nail.
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SupaByoch
Well, camming surely has contributed to slower money in strip clubs, but the things that have REALLY fucked it up are:
Laws focusing on responsibility of the strippers and NOT on the club owners and managers - if the people in charge aren't held responsible, what reason do they have to keep clubs clean? Answer: none.
Oversupply - there are simply too many clubs and strippers and have been for years. Economics 101 will tell you that increased supply --> decreased demand --> decreased prices. Thank you asshole managers, MTV etc.
Largely absent owners and managers. Most clubs these days are basically giant free-for-alls. Obviously that is bad for any business.
Ever-tightening regulations on business expense write-offs. The businessmen who used to drop loads of cash on strippers and write off those entertainment expenses have almost completely vanished. Well, they still come and bring their clients or potential clients, but they generally have to spend their own money now, which severely limits their overall spending.
Skyrocketing sleaze factor and bad reputations. No reputable men want to be seen in or entering/leaving a stripclub anymore.
Catering to the lowest common denominator - this is the fault of management for letting it go on, for essentially running out the older girls who 1) knew how to sell and 2) could help teach the newbies, and for not offering any sort of info or training to new girls. These days a new girl goes to work in a strip club and is essentially sent out with no information and a shitload of rumors, misconceptions and myths - and what does she do? She follows what she thinks she knows, and she makes those rumors, misconceptions and myths into reality.
TOO MUCH INSIDER INFO MADE FREELY AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. Yes, this very forum and others.
The reason I bring these points up is: There are serious parallels between the stripping and camming industries. There are SO MANY ways that stripping has been screwed up, and a lot of those things are happening with camming as well. I would love it if camming weren't ruined the same ways stripping was.
Ya, stripping would still be affected by camming even under the best of circumstances, but there is no replacement for having a live girl on your lap, so if the people who run the stripclubs would run them better, stripping would still be a viable business alternative.
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JessRyan
I was a stripper for 7 years in Atlanta. Camming is different in good ways and bad ways. I miss the girlfriend connection I had with stripping. I wish camgirls wanted to meet and hang out more. Arrange camgirl meets in cities or more reaching out that way. We are all co-workers that never really connect. I miss that. I miss the customer connection too. I really enjoyed sitting with guys, talking and having a drink with them. Stripping is much more "social" Camgirls (I've seen it online and read it in the forums) kind of distance themselves from men, become bitter and almost seem look like they are irritated when you come into their room. With stripping you had to deal closely with the guys, you couldn't kick them, or ban them or turn your head to the ceiling. Camming is more sexual yes. But I don't worry or lose any sleep over "levels of dirtiness" what? I'm touching myself, not the guy. I do think stripping made me a better camgirl. (rather than the other way around I read and see too many bitter camgirls, sorry girls, I do. Almost to where I feel so many camgirls hate men and hate their job) Working customer service made me a better camgirl. And we in food service always said, "you ain't shit until you've worked food service" it taught me that much. Am I rambling again? Maybe this is apples and oranges? In the end I feel the more experience you have with customer service, the better you are with everything in your life.
I agree with you about the connection. I worked in a club for a few years too and it was easier to make friends. You could look people in the eye and know right away where they were coming from. Vibes were easier to pick up on. And because of this I prefer to make friends the old fashion way. You gotta be careful when you're online not just with the guys.
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People like blaming others... I'd think those in a profession that is often addressed negatively would promote tolerance instead of judging people in a similar trade?
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TeeBaby
Well, from another perspective, I had a friend who was a stripper. She did hustle extras in the vip, so money was never a complaint unless it was a slow day. The reason why she wasn't too fond of camming was because she looked at it as chump change. ::)
Flashback to my stripper days girls hated me because I had another option outside of the club, I got slack and BS from the girls in the clubs who are career strippers. they just didn't have the knowledge to understand you can have more then one hustle in the sex biz. So glad those years are long gone those were hardest of my life.
So I found out that when its slow strippers would work massage parlors so they hated cam girls, just escorts and porn stars have their own beef too.
Basically if you work in a not on camera sex job they hated the ones who work a on camera sex job.
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I started camming while I was still stripping. I had extras girls looking down on me. I don't have a problem with escorts, I have a problem with girls who do extras in a club and put clean girls at risk for raids and cause us to constantly explain to customers we don't do that. And "camgirls are lazy", dude, I'm not knocking escorts, but I'd rather make money safely and legally. I market, schedule, do research on different fetishes. That's not lazy. I can argue that showing up and fucking a guy for $300 in a hour vs taking four hours to do that on cam, while researching, promoting, etc. is lazy. Adult work is hard enough with customers judging us, we shouldn't have to deal with it from "relatives" who dance or escort.
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PhatGirlDynomite!!!
This is an old ass thread. And for some reason it wouldn't let me like this post? She wrote this in 2011 and I think she hit it on the nail.
If I remember right she was banned. You can't thank posts from members who were banned. I also think you can't thank posts from member who's accounts were closed or who closed their account but I'm not 100% sure on that one.
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Plus I find any sex work gig that I am around other people it's where I hear the negativity. the few times I worked in massage parlors, escort agencies and strip clubs.
I don't know if its them acting out their insecurities or what. Since I've been in almost facets of the industry, looking back I really should have stick with producing my own content for my own porn site, and sticking with being a cam girl and being an independent escort with little or no contact with other escorts.
When you work for yourself and dictate the type of people you surround yourself you keep your sanity clear.
Future self is learning form those mistakes and making the rest of my career as best as I can.
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Personally I have a lot of respect for cammers. It takes a lot of patience to cultivate an online presence. I wouldn't have the discipline to stick around.
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^ Agreed. I also have mad respect for cam girls. Camgirls have a lot to worry about with their videos on the internet, creepy tech-savvy stalkers, etc. That takes a lot of cajones. All I really worry about is whether anyone follows me from the parking lot. The business savvy and taking time to build regulars, entertain people they can't even see, all that stuff = even more props.
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Where is the 'What Some Cam Girls Think of Strippers' thread? I can't find it!
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Kitcatt
I hate when I hear cam girls say "I'm not a prostitute!" Like babes, stop, just stop. We all sell sex. Be it in person, in a club or online.
Kitcatt, i dont feel comfy to be labeled with the term u just used by a fellow cam girl, being technically true or not i wish to call myself an online sex performer. I can tell for sure there are cam girls who only perform non-nude, only fetishes, domme or what not, is unfair to be labeled as prostitutes IMO.
Dont wanna create drama here but i had to mention this cause it felt not right to read ur statement. Peace.
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What? I personally don't think there is much difference in customers both stripping or camming, also I agree that we are not prostitutes..that is pretty insulting. Its not like I'm being payed to physically invite men into my bedroom to fuck me in groups or shoving 5 stiff dicks in me, its providing them with the image of my body for a min rate. There are limits and control over what woman do in private, which is their own business. Being a prostitute, there isn't much negotiation other than being payed to have sex with someone. (Physically)
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Kitcatt
Hey all I know is I can make a reeeally good livable wage slinging my slightly out of shape pussy on the internet. And I love all my sexworker counterparts. Fuck the hatred. I hate when I hear cam girls say "I'm not a prostitute!" Like babes, stop, just stop. We all sell sex. Be it in person, in a club or online. Le's all just be glad that not everyone is comfortable doing this, any or all of this, and we can all make bank, mmkay?
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BambiCutie
What? I personally don't think there is much difference in customers both stripping or camming, also I agree that we are not prostitutes..that is pretty insulting. Its not like I'm being payed to physically invite men into my bedroom to fuck me in groups or shoving 5 stiff dicks in me, its providing them with the image of my body for a min rate. There are limits and control over what woman do in private, which is their own business. Being a prostitute, there isn't much negotiation other than being payed to have sex with someone. (Physically)
I agree BambiCutie. A cam model =/= prostitute (same goes with escort, porn model, stripper, domme, pso etc). Yes, all are sex workers but not all sex workers offer the same services. The definition of a prostitute is very different than a cam model. That's along the same lines as saying a mechanic is the same as a car dealership, or a grocery store is the same thing as a restaurant or food catering. Similar fields, very different services.
That's one of the reasons it really irks me when guys lump my work with all sex workers (ex asking me if I escort, dance in clubs etc). No I don't offer other sex work, and it's very annoying to assume that one job means I offer any and all. It's one thing if a girl offers more than one service, and there's nothing wrong with that, but to assume one job means it's all the same is wrong and frustrating.
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Plus I bet y'all have better stories about weird customers than me.