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Okay, just to clarify, I sincerely doubt KitCatt is suggesting that we're all prostitutes.
Often times, I hear camgirls say 'well, at least I'm not a prostitute' or 'at least I don't have to meet these guys in person' and I want to tell these girls to stop talking down on other professions. When KitCatt said stop, she meant the same thing--stop talking down on other professions like you're better than them because we all sell some form of sex (digital, implied as in stripping, or physical as in escorting), not that all of us are prostitutes. It wasn't phrased clearly, but it was not meant to be insulting either.
Short story: she meant stop because you're all sex workers, not stop because we're all basically prostitutes.
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tempest666
Plus I bet y'all have better stories about weird customers than me.
It starts with a man, a wedding dress, and the most creative use of peanut butter I've seen in my life........but I'm disgusted with the world, I get at least one incest/Pedo request every hour I'm on cam. Even worse with phone sex. As bad as the dark side of dancing was, the extra seekers and "furniture" never shared how they masturbate with their kindergarten aged daughters' underwear:(
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prostitutes need love too!
#daywalkers #nightwalkers
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Yeah, WOW what I said was totally misinterpreted. Just looked at this thread again, sheesh. What I was saying is I hear cam girls say "well, I'm not a prostitute" all the time on cam in a slut shaming kind of way. We are all SEX WORKERS. We sell sex in some form, as a cam girl, sexual fantasy.
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Wikipedia page for prostitution mentions camgirls: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution#Virtual_sex
Virtual sex, that is, sexual acts conveyed by messages rather than physically, is also the subject of commercial transactions. Commercial phone sex services have been available for decades. The advent of the Internet has made other forms of virtual sex available for money, including computer-mediated cybersex, in which sexual services are provided in text form by way of chat rooms or instant messaging, or audiovisually through a webcam (see camgirl).
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Kitcatt
Yeah, WOW what I said was totally misinterpreted. Just looked at this thread again, sheesh. What I was saying is I hear cam girls say "well, I'm not a prostitute" all the time on cam in a slut shaming kind of way. We are all SEX WORKERS. We sell sex in some form, as a cam girl, sexual fantasy.
Ty for clarifying Kitcatt, because of the way it was phrased it came out like that, all good now.
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Sidebar: When I dabbled in escorting earlier this year, all 3 of the escorts I worked with put me down for camming. And some of their clients did too.:(
They all thought it was 'beneath' them. I found that very interesting, in a warped way.:O
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I wouldn't take wikipedia's word for anything as they're often incorrect. I'll go by what the law says. That is where the line is drawn. I don't consider camming or phone sex prostitution because you're not with the person, there are no bodily fluid transfers, etc. I consider it acting. What the guy does on the other side is none of my concern (unless he it was illegal.) He could be washing his car or making lunch for all I know. Porn isn't prostitution because you're preforming an art. I'm not shaming prostitutes because I think it should be legal even though I personally wouldn't do it for various reasons. Everyone has their own niche.
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Glamourmilf
Sidebar: When I dabbled in escorting earlier this year, all 3 of the escorts I worked with put me down for camming. And some of their clients did too.:(
They all thought it was 'beneath' them. I found that very interesting, in a warped way.:O
That's kind of funny because many cam girls feel the same way about them. Cam girls can record what they do and continue to sell it when they're no longer able to do the work and you're not subjected to diseases, violent men, things you can easily say no to without getting bullied, etc. I think that is a major bonus. Don't let anyone shame you. It's what you prefer.
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That's kind of funny because many cam girls feel the same way about them. Cam girls can record what they do and continue to sell it when they're no longer able to do the work and you're not subjected to diseases, violent men, things you can easily say no to without getting bullied, etc. I think that is a major bonus. Don't let anyone shame you. It's what you prefer.
I agree. I didn't let them shame me, but it was pretty harsh the way I was treated. It's all good. I def wouldn't want to switch places with those ladies., esp. The one who was getting ass fucked for $100, by one guy after the next, while I was camming in the next room.
No judgement, but escorting, even at the higher rates I got, just isn't for me.
I know that cam girls judge escorts, because a few of them judged me.
Funny, how when I went to pay my bills with their judgements, I couldn't.:shrug:
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snowdahlia
i'm skimming this thread and i just want to pop in to say that certain p word is a slur. the better word would be full service sex worker. i see a lot of fssws on tumblr pointing this out and telling people to stop using it. :-)
well, they're just going to have to not like it when i don't feel like bowing down to anyone to change my language. i'm so sick of this politically thin skinned era. it's really getting on my last nerve.
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There are pros and cons to every job, there's no point looking down on each other for one thing because there's always an upside to each job that draws girls to it. I do envy escorts in that they only ever have to work when they're getting paid. I've been both a stripper and am now starting camming, and there are hours that go by where we have to work and still get no guaranteed income. Still, as a camgirl, we get to set our own hours, do what we want and can earn 24hrs a day if we want to, something that strippers and escorts are more limited by. And strippers get the benefit of establishing a face-to-face connection with their customers (men feel MUCH less free to be cheap assholes face-to-face as opposed to behind the internet) without the risk of disease or the general unpleasantness of sex with an unsexy stranger. Each role has its unique upsides, and we're ALL just dirty sex workers to people outside the industry. There shouldn't be any catty hierarchy discrimination within our own community. :(
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I don't give a shit who does what in sex work, I just want everybody safe and able to aim for what makes them happy. And people are always going to dislike others over this or that...
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Kitcatt
Yeah, WOW what I said was totally misinterpreted. Just looked at this thread again, sheesh. What I was saying is I hear cam girls say "well, I'm not a prostitute" all the time on cam in a slut shaming kind of way. We are all SEX WORKERS. We sell sex in some form, as a cam girl, sexual fantasy.
FFS the way you worded it was clear.
And for the record I will continue saying No I'm not a fucking escort because people are creepy and weird and I don't want them anywhere near me. Not because there's something wrong with selling sex in person... there's something wrong with peoplenty in general. Omg. The fluids. There are so many fucking bodily fluids. Ew! *breathing into a paper bag*
I don't like my own bodily fluids on me much less someone else's! Probably a big reason I didn't stick with dancing! People fucking touched me! Staaaahhhhppp!!!! Cooties!
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I think part of it is cuz every job in sex work has negatives. If I could design the perfect adult job, it'd be legal, pay escort wages, have no contact with customers, and not be looked down on by people. I'll let you know if it takes off. In the meantime, I just want everyone to make money and be safe. If they're assaulted on or off the job, I want them treated with the same respect and empathy that a teacher, student, or CEO would get. Since this won't happen until Hell freezes over, I'll settle for minimized lateral abuse to women who have the ovaries to dabble in the adult world, despite the judgement, stereotypes, and hatred from the general public the rough territory comes with.
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Ladies who work with in this arena that criticize others doing a slightly different variation of it are just practicing bullying 101.
They feel shit about them selves so they put others down to feel good again. I learned to deal with bullies when I was in grade school.
Its not about the details that make us different from one another its about the glaring similarities that make us all the same! #Onelove
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I think part of it is cuz every job in sex work has negatives. If I could design the perfect adult job, it'd be legal, pay escort wages, have no contact with customers, and not be looked down on by people. I'll let you know if it takes off. In the meantime, I just want everyone to make money and be safe. If they're assaulted on or off the job, I want them treated with the same respect and empathy that a teacher, student, or CEO would get. Since this won't happen until Hell freezes over, I'll settle for minimized lateral abuse to women who have the ovaries to dabble in the adult world, despite the judgement, stereotypes, and hatred from the general public the rough territory comes with.
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DeepThoughts
Ladies who work with in this arena that criticize others doing a slightly different variation of it are just practicing bullying 101.
They feel shit about them selves so they put others down to feel good again. I learned to deal with bullies when I was in grade school.
Its not about the details that make us different from one another its about the glaring similarities that make us all the same! #Onelove
I agree....well said!
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We have much more in common with sex workers then we do with strippers. Like it or not, the interactions we have with men are psychologically more like that of a sex worker. Stripping is all about the tease and if you are a non-nude model then, I suppose you are more in line with stripping. However, you will hear stories about men who hire escorts for their companionship rather then just sex. So, prostitution is not all about gangbangs and bukkake. In New Zealand, prostitution is legal and extremely well-regulated. The prostitutes are all protected and it is a very viable career that is much more respected in comparison to North America.
With the advent of more virtual reality, the line will become very blurred between sex work and cam. Those of you who have experienced Oculus Rift porn will know what I'm talking about...although no fluids are exchanged the experience is so much more realistic, your brain doesn't know the difference.
Edited to add: models who work token sites can go the route of sexual performance art to lessen the taboo of being seen as a virtual sex worker. That's the beauty of cam, you have much more control over what you portray. What really matters what you think about yourself, not what others believe about you.
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DeepThoughts
Ladies who work with in this arena that criticize others doing a slightly different variation of it are just practicing bullying 101.
They feel shit about them selves so they put others down to feel good again. I learned to deal with bullies when I was in grade school.
Its not about the details that make us different from one another its about the glaring similarities that make us all the same! #Onelove
I've never liked hearing when someone says "I don't judge" We all judge in some way and should. It's that voice inside you that says yes, or no. Do this don't do that. What one girl thinks is okay, you may not think is ok,...and that's well, ok. We all have our own personal moral standards we apply to ourselves. Juding is how we protect ourselves from ourselves.
There are probably 4 people in my whole life who know the good bad and the ugly of my life. I will say PROUDLY, I've NEVER done anything I didn't want to do. But a lot of things I'm not entirely proud of. And those 4 close friends in my life know it all and however they judge me, and I know they don't like what I've done, they still love me and are there for me.
If a guy in a strip club, whom I knew and liked wanted to give me 500 dollars, room service and dinner at the Ritz Carlton...for sex. Hell ya I'd do it. You may think that's wrong by your own person standards. Ok, I think it's ok to be a prostitute/escort. Sex for money is okay to me. If you're an adult and you both agree, sure. You may think dirty anal is okay I think it's disgusting. No biggie to either of us. Maybe it's because I'm old and have been around the block, and spent a few nights at the Ritz Carlton. But I will always stay true to myself. Every woman on the planet has those events in her life. Those events she may not be too proud of. We are all the same, I just don't mind sharing my events.
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You know what, we are all filthy whores, and we deserve to be punished for our sins. Line up ladies, I'll give out the spankings.
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hyori
So, prostitution is not all about gangbangs and bukkake.
It isn't? Shit! I've been doing it all wrong then!:'(
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You know what, we are all filthy whores, and we deserve to be punished for our sins. Line up ladies, I'll give out the spankings.
Welllp... if I have to, I have to. ;DAttachment 43576
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I respect sex workers of any sort (strippers, camgirls, escorts) and I don't care. Unless you don't harm others, do what you please.
I was offered being a stripper and an escort many times in the past, but I simply had no balls for doing it, but I didn't judge.
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I don't care.
When happy in life you don't care about what strangers think for a minute or two. Who cares.... What they think doesn't pay my bills, thus doesn't matter in my life.