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I surprised myself by being in the top 15 when I occasionally check. My strategy is:
1) Always Always HD Encoder
2) Always offer Phone
3) Don't waste time in free chat
4) Don't work any slow hours on the site
5) Be entertaining to the customers at all times
6) Put on a GREAT show in privates
7) ASK ASK ASK for ratings.
8) Don't type anything, ever! Only rarely do I type.
9) Be adorable and use your natural charm
It's a combination of ALL that that gets you up there. Hope that helps. All it takes is a month to get to the top, because that's all I've been camming for so I know it's possible.
Thank you so much for the advice!!!!!!!
i've found since i started putting requests for ratings in my room topic (i put please rate & comment at the end of my room topics) i get way more ratings! (usually 5 star.) i also usually offer phone, always offer sound, and always stream with the encoder. when i had my old internet i was usually in the top 2-4 rows; now i'm lower on the first page because my internet connection is slightly worse. but yes, having good, steady internet, hd encoder, audio, phone (sometimes even without phone), and good ratings should get you to the first page if not the top of the first page.
i'm not a "top girl," as in a top earner on streamate, and i don't think all the models with the best placement necessarily are the highest earners (i mean, i sure as hell am not - yet anyway). but that's how i get good placement on streamate.
i am on and off the first page. like bottom of the first...or beginning of the second. i honestly feel like my placement should be better for the money i make there. and i am so determined to figure out how to get higher placement because i can tell they difference of when i am on the 1st page or the 2nd page...all of a sudden 10 more people will join in my free chat and im like ah i must be on the front page now.
i also wonder if using the pause button hurts your score?
oh and tinydancer..do u remember ur internet speed when you were higher up?? i just checked and i have 37 download/5 upload...i thought that was pretty high..i dunno maybe its not
I have given up understanding SM placement. I am just glad that I am always on the top row or top 3 rows of the home page, sometimes on top spot even. I have been on streamate for almost 3 months now and have had this good placement since a few weeks after starting there. I have no idea where I was placed when I first started because I didn't know how to see the home page while being on cam but, when I first found out how to see the site while logged in and found my placement, I was on the top spot of the top row.
I have great, wired internet connection, use the Encoder, offer phone and sound, have a good amount of privates, and have a 5 star rating, however, I am convinced that these points are not always what determines our placement.
I have seen new girls who were not having a lot of privates on the top row and top spot. I have seen girls not offering phone or sound, and not being on privates that often on the top row or top spot. I have seen girls with 4 stars and not being on privates a lot being on the top row or top spot.
Is there any logic whatsoever? I really can't find the logic in any of it. I think that sometimes they just see potential on some girls, decide to give them a shot and place them well. If she does well being placed on the top rows, they keep her there regardless of what happens later.
I have no idea if I am right or totally off, but without being able to find a logic that fits all the time, I really tend to think that, at least for some girls, SM people decide where they appear on the site.
I am not saying anyone knows people at Streamate that are favoring them. It kind of happened to me and I certainly DON'T know anyone there. But I still think that placement is not all automatically determined by the system. In my opinion, there is a human hand on some of it.
when i was higher up i had about 8-10 download and 4-5 upload; now it's 50 download and 1.5 upload. but also if your connection bounces (like because of wireless or an old modem or something) that will fuck it up too...it's not just the speed but also how steady the connection is.
i don't think the pause button hurts your score but i've noticed when i'm in privates and paused after privates (because i need more time to get back on cam) my placement drops. but when i'm back in free chat it goes back up.
^ Those speeds are definitely a lot. For average streaming you'd want around 3mbps d/l, and no less than .5 u/l. If you're broadcasting in HQ I'd say you would need about twice that, 6mbps d/l and 1mbps u/l. Another thing to check is your ping. The lower the better for that, preferably in the double digits but never higher than 150ish.
I dont even care how they calculate their ranking...
all I can think of is Thanks God they dont have a cam score!!!
Amen.
amen!
i can't get up past 1.5 upload with my internet service - that's the fastest upload speed available where i recently moved. :( also, my ping is usually between 5 and 15. streamate says you need .6 mb/s upload speed minimum to use the encoder.
Generally speaking, the things that cam/phone sites use to determine rank look something like this:
Total revenue
Average length of paid shows
Feedback
Conversion rate (% of sales vs clicks or views to your room)
Non-paying to paying customer conversion rate
Possibly how much outside spending traffic you bring in
Any given site may use any or all of those, in any combination. A site may put more weight on some things vs others - none will be exactly the same.
It seems to me that total revenue, conversion rates and feedback are usually weighted most - ie, the things that get you the most "ranking points".
EVERY site has a "camscore" - they just don't publish it the same way MFC does and they may call it something else. But the "camscore" is what determines each model's placement in the lineup, on every site. It is possible for site admins to manipulate "camscores" to keep certain models higher regardless of their actual score earnings - perhaps such as those who belong to studios or maybe even paid spots.
The best ways to get yourself as high as possible in the ranks (or to get a high "camscore") are:
-do the best show you can at all times
-encourage every spending customer to leave feedback
-promote yourself off the site as much as you can
-work on your "hold time" - keeping spenders spending for as long as possible. tease and drag out the shows
-work as regular a schedule as you can so you develop regulars who will not only spend but keep leaving feedbacks
-attempt to get to know the regulars and better spenders - a little personal chat before diving into a show goes a long way
It really takes a lot of work to get up there to be a top model. I know a girl here who is on the top row now. she busted her ass for months though to get that placement.
However, everything everyone stated above is very true about the placement. (Having good internet etc...)
^OMG I want your kitty!
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Ha this is a 3 year old thread. This is when I had just opened my second account on SM, so I was having difficulties getting all of the stuff I had before on my new account. Too much has changed since then and even the placement algorithm has changed several times. Now its more about how much you worked in the last 1-2 weeks than in the last 1-2 months like how it was before.
They do place girls higher when they start with certain studios (because I've seen it), but its up to you to keep it.
^ Truuuuth.
Some people say the upload speed raise is bullshit, and that it's fake because of course is isn't your own upload speed - it's the speed of whatever proxy is, or something. All I know is that when I was camming at my old place with upload speed less than 0.65 mbps, using the Hotspot Shield was the *ONLY* way I could use the encoder without it cutting off. SM gave me the okay for using the Hotspot Shield, though for other ladies using it, I'd probably sty on the safe side and ask them again. I pretty much begged SM Support to let me use it being as I couldn't use the encoder without it so not using it hurt my placement.
lol yes get permission YES
I did that once, forgot to turn off my hotspot and I had a closed acct. It was opened immediately
I'm on streamate to , i cannot see my placement because i blocked my area but i ask my custies sometimes and most of the times im at the first page.. and most of the times in the first row..
Also make good money ( between 65 and 120 per hour)
The way i got there ( in 6 months)
* Very high speed internet
* very good computer (i7..8 RAM)
* always using the encoder
* logitech c920 webcam
* nice decorated room with good light (very important!)
* Always smile, be sweet, but not tolerate beggers or cheap asses ( you will get respect for that )
* nice outfits not always lingerie but also nice dresses that make me look classy
* i never go on cam if i dont look good.. i spend like 90 minutes doing my hair and make up untill its perfect, and always after an hour or so fixing it again. ( you will stand out! )
* i never ask for ratings but im a strong 5 star and i get a lot of them.. just give the best show you can give.
* Be happy, be fun, be yourself, make jokes, and most important.. have a lot of fun
:) :) :)
Asking your customers isn't necessarily accurate if they favorited you. If they have you will automatically be placed higher for then. I FREAKED out when a regular told me I was on second in the top row on the first page. Then I thought about it for a second and was like "no there's no way i'd only have 3 people in my room if I was at that placement.