Re: Pricing- Domme vs. Sub
All people have some emotional relationship with money. Men most often feel it's humiliating on some level to pay for attention, therefore it is MORE humiliating to pay exorbitant rates. This plays into the submissive male's need to be humiliated - he is such a loser he has to pay higher rates to get sexual service than a "real man" does. haha
And are you looking strictly in the phone only categories? Those rates look ridiculously low to me.
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That does make sense but damn. Is it really such that unless they feel like they are being humiliated they don't feel they should pay us well for this type of work? Patriarchy at its finest, I say.
Yes I was looking in the phone only categories. I just noticed for the first time there IS no phone with cam category for submissives! That's probably a good thing, sadly.
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Well, on the other hand, a "dom" should be paying a submissive female less as part of that power play. I'm not saying I think submissive roleplay is worth less, but I can see how the prices play into the power exchange.
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Honestly I have seen .99 cents dommes and low and priced vanilla girls, too. To some degree I think the price is a reflection of what the lady thinks her service is worth or feels she can get for her services. This may or may not reflect reality. There are some girls in the NF forums who forever complain that it is slow, dommes among them and some who don't. NF is a marketing game. Maybe those submissive girls make it up in volume. Also don't forget you can have multiple accounts on NF, and use content. I know many girls who run sub and domme accounts as well as vanilla. Hell there are girls there with 9 characters. I myself have 2. Myself where I cam, and a trans domme character, for days I don't feel like dealing with one group of regulars I turn on the other line. I do well with both.
Men will pay what we make them pay. And a submissive could spin a higher price by simply saying that she is the best submissive and of course only the best dom can afford her. As an elite alpha male he should only want the best. Hell If was a sub I would charge more. It's about marketing, I find that most who are charging lower don't market very well. Additionally, you can change your nf prices at a whim some girls will drop it if they need to make a goal quickly. I personally will NOT go lower that 1.99 for phone only on that site. I think anyone letting the a man dictate what they will pay doesn't understand this business. Hard dicks spend, I don't care what your niche is.
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^That is true, but we're just talking about some explanation for a GENERAL difference in rates for Domme vs sub. Obviously rates will vary wildly on an individual basis, but there is a very clear pattern of Dommes commanding higher rates than the subs - I'm thinking it has something to do with the humiliation aspect.
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I agree with your point, but I do think sometimes dominant men come to the table with a different perspective on paying for services. I think some dominant men power trip off paying for sex. I think they sometimes have the idea that they can buy the sub, as of she were a pleasure object and nothing more, so that paying can feed their fantasy of power. Further if he can be made to see the price he pays as an extension of his dominance then a submissive can exploit his ego for even more dollars. Even if he does feel it's humiliating to pay in order to better her position financially the submissive op has to figure out how to spin that in a different direction.
NF is it's own animal however, because we are independent contractors. So I grant that things shake out a bit differently there. I am guessing the OP is thinking about starting a submissive listing on NF I just don't want her to feel that she has to charge those prices. Because while in general there may be valid reason that subs are charging a lower price, I don't think they have to be doing it. I don't know of any dispatch companies that charge less for their submissives or more for their dommes it's the same across the board.
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Ehh, everyone charges what they can on NF. I do think those rates are absurdly low for the top listings, and assume (hope) they must be making it up on volume. I see some girls doing cam listings at those rates and wonder why they sell themselves so short. haha
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^ When I see .99 cent cam I always have WTF? moment. Every camgirl deserves more than that.
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hidarlin
I am guessing the OP is thinking about starting a submissive listing on NF I just don't want her to feel that she has to charge those prices.
ooooh no! ::shudders:: I just can't bring myself to do it. I was just browsing and noticed the general pattern.
Re: Pricing- Domme vs. Sub
Honestly I don't know how the people who keep up multiple accounts do it. Maybe I just prefer to focus on 1 and make that 1 the best I can, but geez it just seems like SO much extra work to build and maintain multiple accounts and personalities. I think I'd go stark-raving mad if I tried. lol
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SupaByoch
Honestly I don't know how the people who keep up multiple accounts do it. Maybe I just prefer to focus on 1 and make that 1 the best I can, but geez it just seems like SO much extra work to build and maintain multiple accounts and personalities. I think I'd go stark-raving mad if I tried. lol
I have 2 on NF, that I take calls on, and a third that is just ptvs and recordings, where I never take calls. If all of them would shut on and off together I could handle more. My very first adult job as a PSO was at a call center, and we had to have 5 characters. I do put the main effort into myself though, but some days I feel like somebody else. LOL Ladies that pull off 9 characters though, I take my hat off to them.
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I think for me it seems like splitting efforts into different characters = less focus and less profits. I can see why a call center would be more conducive to having different characters - they're doing the marketing and everything else for you, and all you have to do is answer the phone in character. But NF is different. You have to do all your own marketing, so not only are you keeping up with those different characters but you're splitting your marketing efforts over different accounts. It just seems like a lot of extra effort for not enough pay-off to me.
Maybe the people who use several characters do make more money, but judging from the comments, I highly doubt that most do.
Whatever works for everyone though. I'm not being negative; I just really do wonder if the $$ is worth the effort.