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OMG! Lil Wayne "How To Love Video" - strippers are all HIV+ escorts now
OMG have you guys seen the new Lil Wayne "How To Love Video"??? Its about a woman who has 2 kids and becomes a stripper. Then she approaches a customer (at the tip rail, lol so misinformed) and takes him home & has sex with him for money. Perpetuating that stripper stereotype, I see.
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And my +1 from the strippers with degrees forum just kicked me back 3steps. Fucking bastard midget wannabe artistic rapper..... this is why I listen to a lot of rock atleast there portrayal of strippers are less desperate.
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Re: OMG! Lil Wayne "How To Love Video" - strippers are all HIV+ escorts now
interesting - two totally opposite reactions to the same song
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=159794
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laurielegs
interesting - two totally opposite reactions to the same song
Oh I didn't even see that! I cannot relate to it AT ALL. I'm sure maybe it is some girls' experiences, but not most I'm sure. It seems like its ALL stereotype. "Strippers come from broken homes, are born to teen moms, are sexually abused, are sexually abused by a father-figure male for that matter, have children (multiple, in this case) to support, are escorts and have sex for money outside the club, have UNPROTECTED sex, contract HIV, dropped out of school or didn't graduate, have no other job..."
How much more (NEGATIVELY) stereotypical can you get????
I mean, seriously. If I told friends that I dance, this is EXACTLY what they would think I do.
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Aslinn
And my +1 from the strippers with degrees forum just kicked me back 3steps. Fucking bastard midget wannabe artistic rapper..... this is why I listen to a lot of rock atleast there portrayal of strippers are less desperate.
I just actually watched the video and all deep parts of the video aside when she screamed after finding out she had HIV I laughed 1.that was such a dramatic scream and 2.unprotected sex with random and she's that surprised? Lol idk but I'm fucked up for that. Anyways the song is a good one from little Wayne but why couldn't they just make her a regular street walker or something? I mean +1 for her being a pretty dancer but wtf over all? Why a stripper that was sexually abused by a man?
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I don't think a street walker is any more deserving of HIV than a stripper, but that's me.
It's lame that they chose a stripper/single mom to portray the character, but if it scares any of his fan base into protecting themselves, then that's a plus.
Every dancer on here could graduate college with honors and it still wouldn't make a dent in the stereotype. People will believe what they want to believe.
I'm more annoyed with the fact that the director/ Lil Gremlin went with the tired old misogynistic HIV as punishment angle. When the video goes back into time, her mom gets married, which prevents the pedophile from coming around and being her downward spiral....and she is a good girl who doesn't end up with Aids. SMH
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PleasureVictim
I don't think a street walker is any more deserving of HIV than a stripper, but that's me.
It's lame that they chose a stripper/single mom to portray the character, but if it scares any of his fan base into protecting themselves, then that's a plus.
Every dancer on here could graduate college with honors and it still wouldn't make a dent in the stereotype. People will believe what they want to believe.
I'm more annoyed with the fact that the director/ Lil Gremlin went with the tired old misogynistic HIV as punishment angle. When the video goes back into time, her mom gets married, which prevents the pedophile from coming around and being her downward spiral....and she is a good girl who doesn't end up with Aids. SMH
I didn't mean it like that, but the job of a stripper is to tease. The job of a street walker is to please. We don't assume a street walker has sex, we know she has sex or else she wouldn't be there. What im saying is why perpetuate the notion of strippers also having sex for money. Also me personally I think that over the years or even decades the stereotype can be changed. Lots of things in history have had stereotypes that have changed I don't think stripping should be different, besides people have to die at some point and if the remaining have different ideals then the stereotype will be just that instead of a rule of thumb.
Man i gotta stop having deep thoughts in the middle of the night when I have class in the morning lol
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PleasureVictim
I'm more annoyed with the fact that the director/ Lil Gremlin went with the tired old misogynistic HIV as punishment angle. When the video goes back into time, her mom gets married, which prevents the pedophile from coming around and being her downward spiral....and she is a good girl who doesn't end up with Aids. SMH
This is what really got me. If it had just been a sad story about a stripper who also has sex for money because she feels like she has to support her kdis and then contracts HIV - sure, I'd roll my eyes, but I could go with it just being a sob story. The idea that if she had not, as Glamour Rouge said, come from a broken home, been born to a teen mom, was sexually abused, had children, and dropped out of school that she would have ended up as a highly educated, well-off, happy little good girl rather than some dirty stripper who contracts HIV was just :O
I'm more upset that it perpetrates the stereotype that strippers are forced into it because of shitty backgrounds that include broken homes, abuse, and children at a young age, and if they didn't have that shitty background, they would never ever turn to stripping/prostitution and get HIV as "punishment" for bad choices.
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its cause most rappers/hiphop guys are wannabe pimps and dealers and see us this way! Remember lil wayne went to prison.. hell sam jones just went to prison and was exploiting karissa shannon.
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Great.
That many more "white knights" who are going to interrogate me: "why are you doing this?" while assuming that I have daddy issues and am a diseased desperate single mom with several kids by several baby daddies- right before they try to grope me and proposition me.
Those who don't come down on us for being "skanks" act they they know the story, and want to cast us in the victim role - all because of pop culture streotypes like this. Thanks, Lil Wayne.
ETA: disclaimer - Nothing against single moms here, or mothers whose children have different fathers. I was just trying to convey the image that they lump us ALL into.
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i have those gloves and those pleasers.
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Its a touching vid...no doubt.
But I hate the stereotype it perpetuates.
Loathe it actually.
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I think its ridiculous that he makes a video making stripping look bad....yet...he fucking glorifies it the other 99% of the time!! He has strippers on stage at his concerts, he sings about them, hangs out in strip clubs, has models/strippers in his videos......HYPOCRITE!!
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Its frustrating indeed. Its all like a badly written lifetime movie. Except worse. I get it, I think. But the stereotyping that goes on in the vid is ridiculous!
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So, whadda reckon? That was about $20 in stage tips? Not bad considering there were only 3 guys at the tip rail....
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Ok, here I go on my rant... I just watched the video and am torn by the things shown and implied. I am intelligent enough to understand the symbolism in the video and the message of love and strength, (I have 2 degrees, all thanks to the stilettos that got me there) ;) But I am conflicted by the entertainer fucking the dirtiest, grimiest looking customer in the club... much less any customer. Why does there have to be such a negative connotation on being sexy and making money? Why couldn't the g string fund be put towards something positive (as I did myself) as oppose to something so dirty and looked down upon? I don't even like the fact that she was "just pregnant" at the end. I would have preferred to see her accomplishing something on her own with her mother's support and left it at that. No disrespect to and creative individual behind the camera, but the hypocritical nature of the video pisses me off.
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Maybe I missed something, but I didn't see where the video said anything about ALL strippers being escorts with HIV?? I'm not seeing why everyone is up in arms, especially considering the fact that, as amorescudero stated, he glorifies it 99% of the time in all his other work. I wouldn't say that makes him a hypocrite either. Maybe he's just showing two sides to an industry.
To me, the video is the story of an individual - she doesn't have to represent you, me, or US.
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It would have been so touching if he had featured a rapper or baller who bedded woman after woman night after night and reflected on his busted up childhood after being diagnosed with HIV.
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Depressing video. Stripper or not.
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Optimist
It would have been so touching if he had featured a rapper or baller who bedded woman after woman night after night and reflected on his busted up childhood after being diagnosed with HIV.
That's a way more realistic idea if you ask me... on a side note I really hated that song even before the video
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Optimist
It would have been so touching if he had featured a rapper or baller who bedded woman after woman night after night and reflected on his busted up childhood after being diagnosed with HIV.
Basically Magic Johnson's life....
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Is it just me or does the little girl depicted as the main character from 0;56-1:14 seem a little too "white" to be from a black couple? Is this implying that her mother is a whore and got pregnant by a white guy hence why her partner beats her?
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I like the song, didn't care much for the video. I think it went too dark for the song. You know who I really have a love/hate relationship with - DRAKE! He's was always whining about some stripper who did him wrong, and hurt his feelings, wah wah wah oh why must I always fall for bad stripper lady LOL.
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Optimist
It would have been so touching if he had featured a rapper or baller who bedded woman after woman night after night and reflected on his busted up childhood after being diagnosed with HIV.
Yeah I agree.
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I'm glad to see a video that shows the risks of sex. Almost every club I worked in someone was having sex for money. I think its good for customers to watch this video!!
On the other side I hate how these rappers sing about how they love to go to the strip clubs then lil wayne puts this out?? You know what you can't have it both ways. How many people have HIV that have regular jobs, a lot! There were some shows out there that showed you can have a normal life after HIV(queer as folk or a lot shows on logo), but it hasn't been shown enough in the straight community. I really hate how they show all strippers are prostitutes, unfortunately a lot are. So lil wayne your still gonna go to strip clubs but make a video how stripping is bad?