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Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
I'm finding the dynamic to be humorous lol.
I remember the first girls and being soooo envious as they repeatedly turned over 4 and 5 repeats, meeting their goal every time but it seems to be fizzling out. The part I find humorous is seeing the same girls not able to meet their goals over and over again as they bust their ass working it waaaay too hard and then they sit there looking dumbfounded in the end wondering why they aren't meeting their goals. I think the definition of madness is coming to mind here as I watch these same girls over and over again entertaining anywhere between 20 to 40 free watchers and beggars as they dance topless, they bend over for the cam to show their rim and lips, they lick their toys and are doing all kinds of shit the guys would otherwise pay for and in the end they are not getting shows.
I'm wondering when the lightbulb will go off with these girls? Don't get me wrong, I'm not seeing humor in the girls who fail, I'm seeing humor in the maddness of it all.
I don't mean to offend anyone with this post. It's my own personal opinion which amounts to nothing lol. Just wondering what everyone elses take is?
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editing to say, "crap, I edited the wrong post!" LOL
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
You're totally right though. It's maddening to watch.
The thing is, I don't show anything in free chat and I can't make goals anymore either. So your reasoning is correct, but those girls have also ruined it for the rest of us, because the majority of guys hanging out in the room are the ones who go from PC room to PC room looking for free pussy/tits/ass/bj/vag sex in guest chat. I think that the guys who ARE willing to spend money on the shows are getting almost as fed up as the models trying to run the shows. Here they are, willing to contribute their share, 2x their share, 4x, etc. but they can't get a show because the models are having to cancel over and over.
Then there are the girls who are constantly taking shows for 25% of their goal. I don't see the point of having such a high goal in that case. The point of the higher goal is to get more money from the guys who REALLY want to be in your show and know that you WILL cancel if you don't get to your goal, or whatever percentage of your goal you say you need to make. But when your goal is $250 and you only make $70 and you take the show anyway? Why would they bother contributing more? You're just going to do the show for $70 anyway (that's $24.50 your cut, instead of $87.50). It also teaches the guys to expect that from other models as well. Now I'm seeing $30 goals all over the place. Even the couples are doing really low goals, and I've seen so many $60 shows cancelled it's cray.
Then the guys go around giving "advice" (really, just begging in an even more annoying way b/c they think it's creative and that we're stupid). "If you would show your tits, you'd make your goal." "If you don't take a cock in your ass right now in free chat you're never going to make your goal, slut." "You should have a lower goal. You're never going to make that much." I had to start banning these guys the second they give ANY suggestion because it starts a chain reaction.
I think that PC could be a really amazing feature, and I honestly think that it was SM's answer to the "jumper" issue since you HAVE to pay for a show in order to get in and you HAVE to pay no matter how long you stay.
Then there are the shows for DIRT CHEAP, like the porn studios who do 60 minute shows for $10. I thought that was completely ridiculous at first, even though I know they're banking on it anyway and it's just mostly for advertisement. But now other models are starting to do those kinds of shows. First of all, what are you going to do with yourself for an hour? Secondly, you're STILL not making money, but now you're being paid shit for the next hour instead of the next 10 minutes.
I was excited about the prospects of this feature in the beginning. Unfortunately, SM has found as many ways as possible to allow performers to mess it up, they encourage the customers to help out in this, and they don't "punish" the girls who are making the site worse by giving it all away for free. I REALLY hope I don't start another one of those discussions on how it's nobody's business what other people do in their rooms. I don't tell people how to run their own rooms. I just have opinions on how they do it and how it affects my business.
I was around on SM more than a year ago and I've seen things totally change on there. I'm sure there are models who are making more on there than they did a year ago and there are many who are making just as much. All I'm saying is that PC was a great IDEA. It's great to sit in free chat for 10 minutes, do a 15 minute show and make $275. The only problem is that to make $275 now on PC I would have to do a 15 min countdown, cancel, 10 min, cancel, 5 min, cancel, 3 min, cancel. Take a break. Start over again. Do it again a few times and, if I finally decide to take a show for 1/2 of my goal, make a few bucks. I probably could've made more if I was just sitting in free chat and taking shows.
That said, I still see some people making goal. I'm sure they feel that PC is wonderful. So I guess it's all in how you're affected by it.
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
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Cam_Model_Jess
..but those girls have also ruined it for the rest of us, because the majority of guys hanging out in the room are the ones who go from PC room to PC room looking for free pussy/tits/ass/bj/vag sex in guest chat..
I have been bashed to no end for saying what you said here and my answer will always be the same; I started this business so don't tell me I don't know my shit or that I'm out of date especially when I sit in front of my cam on a Saturday afternoon only showing from the neck up in free chat but still make $350 in 3 hours as the PC girls sit there restarting and settling for a quarter of that.
There are enough strippers here that will tell you, in the end, we all dance the same. We're selling our personalities and not our pussies. The less skin you show, and the more of your personality you show, the more you make. You don't have to be Miss Bubbles, and not everyone likes Ms. Stepford or Mrs. Domineering. THAT is what sets us apart and gives us our following.
..and YES, it is my business what is going on in someone elses chat room when they are giving away for free what I am getting paid for. This affects me and every other cam girl in the most direct way possible... "should I pay the bill or eat Ramen noodles" should not be a question for someone who has the potential to make 5k per week.
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
How do I feel about party chat? I'm glad I've only done it twice since the shit started. I'm happy for the girls who continue to use it and are successful. My best cam girl friend still uses it regularly and I'm pretty sure she's still happy with it. But every guy that comes in my room asking if I ever do party chat is a cheap asshole. I'm glad I haven't built up a clientele of cheap assholes. I'm glad the men that come to see me don't see me as a beggar. They're the ones that have to beg cause I'm not doing as much as standing up for free... Still. And if you want a show from me you're gonna have to pay more than a dollar honey!
I might sound cocky but fuck it. That's the way we should be.
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
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Juliette25
How do I feel about party chat? I'm glad I've only done it twice since the shit started. I'm happy for the girls who continue to use it and are successful. My best cam girl friend still uses it regularly and I'm pretty sure she's still happy with it. But every guy that comes in my room asking if I ever do party chat is a cheap asshole. I'm glad I haven't built up a clientele of cheap assholes. I'm glad the men that come to see me don't see me as a beggar. They're the ones that have to beg cause I'm not doing as much as standing up for free... Still. And if you want a show from me you're gonna have to pay more than a dollar honey!
I might sound cocky but fuck it. That's the way we should be.
That's pretty much how I feel. It's nice to have, but not worth me spending hour upon hour trying to make money just off that alone. I enjoy my privates more.
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
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Juliette25
How do I feel about party chat? I'm glad I've only done it twice since the shit started. I'm happy for the girls who continue to use it and are successful. My best cam girl friend still uses it regularly and I'm pretty sure she's still happy with it. But every guy that comes in my room asking if I ever do party chat is a cheap asshole. I'm glad I haven't built up a clientele of cheap assholes. I'm glad the men that come to see me don't see me as a beggar. They're the ones that have to beg cause I'm not doing as much as standing up for free... Still. And if you want a show from me you're gonna have to pay more than a dollar honey!
I might sound cocky but fuck it. That's the way we should be.
Nope, you don't sound cocky at all. It's not always easy to do what we do. I am NOT a lazy person, and I don't believe that I should be paid a bunch of money for lying around all day, and that's what some people make it sound like we do. Yet we are exposing ourselves in a way that the majority of the world's population will not. We our exposing ourselves to constant criticism, to being exploited by anyone with the capability of recording a show, to having to make decisions about how far we will go to make a dollar, and to being "discovered" or "outed" if that's something that concerns us. We are performing a service; every day we make people happy, or we at least fulfill some kind of role in their lives. We offer a service that we deserve to be paid a lot of money for. On the rare occasion (these days it's getting more rare) when I make $60/hr, I am amazed but I don't feel bad about it. I think, "that's more like it." I have worked just as hard at other jobs and been paid a lot less, but there were very few risks with those jobs. ** I believe in hazard pay. **
I do get very angry at the girls giving it away for free. Even if I did report people for violations, I wouldn't talk about it on here b/c I see all the crap people get for talking about it. But when girls are suspended/ banned from a site for constantly and consistently breaking the rules, I say good riddance. I hate to see anyone lose her job, but there are rules that come with every company you work for. If you don't follow them, you risk losing your job or worse.
I think that while PC has GREAT potential, people are too short-sighted with it. At first it seemed to be a wonderful thing, but it seems to have led to girls selling themselves WAY short. The point of PC, for the performers, was to earn more money in a shorter period of time while offering the customer a cheaper show and to also reach customers who otherwise couldn't/ wouldn't be willing to pay our normal per-minute prices. I don't know if the girls completely missed the point, or if- in being caught up in trying to "sell" the feature and the fervor of trying to make money with it- they just harmed themselves, and others, to the point where we are now.
I was worried, from the beginning, that after doing x number of PCs, guys would no longer be willing to pay my normal prices. At first, that didn't seem to be an issue. However, I'm starting to wonder if it has become a site-wide issue now that so many girls have it, are willing to work for so little money, and if you're not doing PC the guys can just get a free show anyway, as long as they're willing to wank to a few seconds of image at a time.
I admire the girls who are still working PC and making money from it while not selling themselves (and the rest of us) short. I also admire the girls who have good, loyal custies who aren't cheap jerks. Go ladies, for training them well. :)
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
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CammingSince97
I'm finding the dynamic to be humorous lol.
I remember the first girls and being soooo envious as they repeatedly turned over 4 and 5 repeats, meeting their goal every time but it seems to be fizzling out. The part I find humorous is seeing the same girls not able to meet their goals over and over again as they bust their ass working it waaaay too hard and they they sit there looking dumbfounded in the end wondering why they aren't meeting their goals. I think the definition of madness is coming to mind here as I watch these same girls over and over again entertaining anywhere between 20 to 40 free watchers and beggars as they dance topless, they bend over for the cam to show their rim and lips, they lick their toys and are doing all kinds of shit the guys would otherwise pay for and in the end they are not getting shows.
I'm wondering when the lightbulb will go off with these girls? Don't get me wrong, I'm not seeing humor in the girls who fail, I'm seeing humor in the maddness of it all.
I don't mean to offend anyone with this post. It's my own personal opinion which amounts to nothing lol. Just wondering what everyone elses take is?
Are we talking Gold Shows or Party Chat? Party Chat is just a mode that everyone has. I think you mean Gold Shows.
Gold Shows are only worth it in two cases:
1.) The girl has HEAVY traffic. Usually a mainstream pornstar or has her own pay site, or has been building up regulars for years, or is a studio owner on SM
2.) The girl has at least a decent amount of spendy regulars who will donate large amounts ($50+ in gold) toward the show because they like you and are excited
When I have done Gold Shows, I fall into the second category. It has only been successful for me when my spendy regulars are on. The few times I've done it, they almost did like a tipping war kinda thing, and got me to my goal in a couple minutes (on purpose). This is usually between 2 - 4 regulars.
Overall: It's NOT worth it to me! I make way more with either exclusives & tipping from slaves, or doing group shows.
Girls doing these cheap shows affects EVERYONE'S money. This is the reason I've spent way less time on SM lately, and wayyyyyy more time on MFC. I do not like the direction that SM is headed, and I feel like it is only a matter of time before it turns into a free for all.
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
I don't think it sounds cocky either and I agree 100% with everything Cam_Model_Jess said.
Just a little food for thought. I am one that takes the time to get to know who my customers are. I do my homework, and one of the things I do is analyze traffic. When I look at streamate traffic stats I see US, UK and CA are the majority but close behind is Singapore, India, Saudi Arabia and China. These are countries that are surpassing the US, UK and the CA economies. They are the richest and fastest growing countries not just economically but with that comes reason for sin tax just like the US, UK and CA. Gambling in Macau is a new and major driving force in the Asian economies which means increased consumption of alcohol and "sin".
Mumbai, which is in India, houses some of the most wealthy, and sexually repressed men in the world (I read Forbes).
This is the up and coming force behind camming... These are some of the most sexually repressed economies with the most expendible income. They can get off by looking at a womans' full face, by only the sight of her cleavage, by a bare wrist, and by the flash of a leg.
These are the guys who are willing to spend $5/minute to watch you suck and spit on a dildo, who will pay $5/min to see you pull your tits out, to hear you say "I'm horney".
To not recognize our industries potential as the financial powers shift is a death sentence for the camming world.
Just my opinion but this opinion is formed on solid facts.
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
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Originally Posted by
Juliette25
But every guy that comes in my room asking if I ever do party chat is a cheap asshole. I'm glad I haven't built up a clientele of cheap assholes. I'm glad the men that come to see me don't see me as a beggar.
This ... When I did gold shows I had fun, regulars and new guys were joining. Now that I've stopped my regulars of course come back. The guys who experienced me for the the first time in gold shows don't get a regular show. Kind of like that guy who takes you home from the club and fucks you. He has your number and the only time he calls is for sex and if you're not on board he goes to the next chick for sex. He doesn't want to take you out for dinner or buy you gifts, so can't expect much from him. Lost cause. I can take partial blame because with a gold show I try to sell the sex more than my personality. I see these guys popping in my chat all the time with the 1 by their names, I check their profile and it says paid in gold show lol. OK I won't bother you
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
Gold shows have definately changed the dynamic on SM to the point where I just dont go on there anymore and instead spend my time and energy on a different site that I'm really happy with:) the men have turned into bigger morons and as someone mentioned above all their "advice" is just annoying lol maybe it's the way some girls would try to get guys in by calling the gold "donations" just gave them the impression we need them and they're doing us a favor lol Like most jobs theres always going to be things that aggravate you about it in terms of management and co-workers but luckily theres so many sites out there, if one just does nothing but piss you off you can just bounce to another and hopefully take your regs with you ;)
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TeeBaby
This ... When I did gold shows I had fun, regulars and new guys were joining. Now that I've stopped my regulars of course come back. The guys who experienced me for the the first time in gold shows don't get a regular show. Kind of like that guy who takes you home from the club and fucks you. He has your number and the only time he calls is for sex and if you're not on board he goes to the next chick for sex. He doesn't want to take you out for dinner or buy you gifts, so can't expect much from him. Lost cause. I can take partial blame because with a gold show I try to sell the sex more than my personality. I see these guys popping in my chat all the time with the 1 by their names, I check their profile and it says paid in gold show lol. OK I won't bother you
Yea I was actually thinking about this earlier. Some of my SM customers have become indy customers. Not gonna happen from the gold show cheepies.
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
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GlamourRouge
Are we talking Gold Shows or Party Chat? Party Chat is just a mode that everyone has. I think you mean Gold Shows.
Yes, Gold Shows, which SM themselves used to refer to as Party Chat. When it first started, Party Chat was the part that is now referred to as the "Gold Show countdown," but which SM was calling Party Chat. There was even some video explaining the whole Party Chat/ Gold Show thing and the girl on there says "Party Chat" where SM is now saying "Gold Show."
It's been hard to switch lingo. I still think of the countdown as Party Chat and the actual show as the Gold Show. I never heard mention of them giving the "Party Chat" option to everyone while withholding the Gold Show option until they sent an e-mail to that effect. I'm not sure if they intended to give the options separately or if the lack of server power necessitated the separation.
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Cam_Model_Jess
Yes, Gold Shows, which SM themselves used to refer to as Party Chat. When it first started, Party Chat was the part that is now referred to as the "Gold Show countdown," but which SM was calling Party Chat. There was even some video explaining the whole Party Chat/ Gold Show thing and the girl on there says "Party Chat" where SM is now saying "Gold Show."
It's been hard to switch lingo. I still think of the countdown as Party Chat and the actual show as the Gold Show. I never heard mention of them giving the "Party Chat" option to everyone while withholding the Gold Show option until they sent an e-mail to that effect. I'm not sure if they intended to give the options separately or if the lack of server power necessitated the separation.
As far as I am concerned it's the same thing. Begging, waiting or displaying for beggards to donate.. I've had both and I've read the "differences" but still consider them the same thing as I'm sure horny surfers do as well.
I had gold before I had party, now I only have party but not gold. *shrug* Either way I don't use it.
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
Yea I think they sent an email out to everyone saying that they were rolling out the party chat option to all models, however only ones that have gone through the approval process can actually do gold shows. They want to make sure your machine can handle it, among other, probably undisclosed reasons.
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I edited the wrong post. I'll just add a new post.
I just went to the site and read the FAQ which is something i have never done. I only read the e-mail they sent to notify me I have met the qualifications. I do have both gold and party. Having "Party" means everyone can see each others text chat. You can still do the countdown in party chat at which point it becomes a "Gold" show.
From the FAQ:
2. Party Chat – New chat type mode that allows users to see a member list of everyone in the room as well as see each other’s chat messages in guest (and in GOLD Shows). You can make this the default mode if you’d like by going to your Settings tab.
3. *GOLD Show – For those who qualify (see above), a new “group paid” show is available in Party Chat chat mode only. Please note that even if you have GOLD Shows enabled, you must have a good internet connection and powerful enough computer to run a GOLD Show as we are unable to systematically know this. For information on how to set up a GOLD Show, see the “GOLD Show tutorial” which can be launched by clicking on the “?” icon in the show setup popup.
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Its confusing because the browser can default to "party" or "regular" and then the icon says "Gold". I always wondered by they took away my gold privaleges but I guess they didn't. They added privaleges lol.
<-- blonde.
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
If it aint broke, don't fix it!
The addition of party chat and gold shows have changed the dynamic on sm and not for the better IMHO. I know they are trying to "compete" with other sites that have been sucessful this way, but this is an EPIC FAIL on sm's behalf.
The kicker is when the girls "PROMISE TITS, ASS, REQUESTS, ETC" for "tips" that they MAY or MAY NOT receive. If the show is canceled, the girl has fufilled a room full of custys requests for FREE and the members have been refunded. It is hilarious, yet sad, especially they keep doing it! I just cant fathom where these models heads are at. It is "cheapening" the site.
I see models every day not being able to make the smallest goals and it is their own fault for giving so much away for free and so much away for so cheap. It is not only SM but the models for using the feature in this way.
I am trying on streamate but I have lost alot of patience the past few weeks. The customers on the whole there in my experience have always been minute men, now they have turned into SECOND MEN. My regulars have all but disappeared because I simply cant compete at my once "normal" rate of 3.99 a minute. THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
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CammingSince97
This is the up and coming force behind camming... These are some of the most sexually repressed economies with the most expendible income. They can get off by looking at a womans' full face, by only the sight of her cleavage, by a bare wrist, and by the flash of a leg.
These are the guys who are willing to spend $5/minute to watch you suck and spit on a dildo, who will pay $5/min to see you pull your tits out, to hear you say "I'm horney".
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Unfortunately even these sexually represed men with big wallets still may not be willing to pay $5 a min for anything....if they can get it FOR FREE.
Another problem, I don't think alot of girls realize how sexually repressed all of these men on camsites are. They are already aroused in some way shape or form ON a site like SM. When girls are sitting with their tits out in free chat and think it is acceptable, it really is not. For and MOST, this is enough for them to get off and not spend any money. THIS IS A FREE SHOW. WAKE UP GIRLS.
I was on mfc the other day lol, and I was amazed, a girl was sitting there butt naked (shockerrrr hahaha) and her topic? "NO SHOWS UNTIL I REACH X AMOUNT OF TOKENS" Old skool me was in awe of course, IMHO what I was watching, was a SHOW!! A SHOW that someone would have and should have paid for. When did sitting naked/topless/talking about your sex toys and using them not become a show to these girls?????
I must express, that although models may not get into trouble on some sites for nudity in free chat, that they should really have some respect for themselves. Call me old fashioned, but I have always told myself
'DO NOT DO ANYTHING IN A PUBLIC CHATROOM THAT YOU WOULD NOT DO IN PUBLIC"
For me this includes:
sitting with my tits/pussy/ass out
showing off my toys
getting stupid drunk
using illegal drugs
airing out all of your dirty laundry
Now, those of you who continue to give free shows, ask yourself:
In public would you
sit with your tits/pussy/ass hanging out
flail around sex toys
get stupid drunk
use illegal drugs
air out all of your dirty laundry?
NO? So why, why on earth do you find this acceptable on a camsite, for free, for everyone to see, with the possibility of being recorded? Wether it is an adult site or not, this really is not acceptable. Have some respect for yourself, your co workers, and the sites you work for. TY
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
*shrinking in my seat as I raise my hand*
<--- has been stupid drunk in many places... most of which I have no memory of being in. :boxedin:
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
..for the record, I didn't respect myself very much. Neither did anyone else.
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cyberstripper
'DO NOT DO ANYTHING IN A PUBLIC CHATROOM THAT YOU WOULD NOT DO IN PUBLIC"
For me this includes:
sitting with my tits/pussy/ass out
showing off my toys
getting stupid drunk
using illegal drugs
airing out all of your dirty laundry
Now, those of you who continue to give free shows, ask yourself:
In public would you
sit with your tits/pussy/ass hanging out
flail around sex toys
get stupid drunk
use illegal drugs
air out all of your dirty laundry?
This resonates with me well, and is a huge part of the reason I rarely if ever have the tolerance of working free chat/public sites anymore. I don't understand why anybody would really want to put themselves out there like that in public because in reality, doing these things on cam is actually worse than doing them in public, seeing as how in public only people immediately surrounding you will see you, whereas in a public chat room the whole world is your audience. Then don't get me started on how irritating it is for any of the customers to ask for anything for free. Whyyy should I show you my tits/ass in public? It makes NO sense whatsoever. Very well put, imo.
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cyberstripper
Another problem, I don't think alot of girls realize how sexually repressed all of these men on camsites are. They are already aroused in some way shape or form ON a site like SM. When girls are sitting with their tits out in free chat and think it is acceptable, it really is not. For and MOST, this is enough for them to get off and not spend any money. THIS IS A FREE SHOW. WAKE UP GIRLS.
I like this point as well. I think the men are sexually repressed, but many camgirls and other entertainers have become desensitized to nudity, by comparison, which makes for a bad combination.
I remember when I first became a stripper. All of the other girls were already walking around the club near nude and it was very awkward for me. Getting naked in front of strangers was like... strange. Then it became normal. Kind of like camming. When I first started, even though I'd been a stripper before it was like... okay so now I'm masturbating for a strange man. It wasn't "normal". But now on all these sites you can just see so much, that boobs and tiny thongs and stuff SEEM normal/natural to US, but really these horny men are still as horny as they ever were and really should be paying to see so much.
For a time I even felt that my small tits weren't worth much and I wouldn't mind showing them, but even now I know they are still tits and some guys totally fetishize them! I'm toying with taking down my youtube foot teaser videos too because they have over 100,000 hits but I'm realizing that they should be paying for that as well. I want to raise my rates for everything industry related on these people.
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
i am one that sets my goal higher and will accept the show for less than that. it usually works out that i get half of what i set my goal at..so for example purposes
if my goal is 300..i will get 150
if my goal is 200..i will get 100
if my goal is 100..i will get 50
i personally think its stupid to cancel and restart countdowns multiple times. time is money! as long as i am making over a dollar a minute i will do the show!
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
Interesting to know hottie. I make more than a dollar per minute by just one guy taking me premium though if I've got oodles of guys watching me I wanna make bunches more. Just sayin. I know where you're coming from.
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Re: Now that it's had time to sink in ~ thoughts on Party Chat?
^ i'm not saying i do dollar a minute shows all the time...but sometimes it happens! lol
i would rather spend time getting paid (even if its less than i make in pvt) than waiting to do another show.