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streamate,daily pay,& placement
I work on sm with daily pay and my placement SUCKS. I know everyone always complains about not making as much and bad placement when they had an old name and deleted it for a new one with daily pay. I always thought that was just because they were starting over. I am starting to think working through a studio somehow limits how high my placement is. I am doing like everything I can think of and I don't move anywhere (up or down..its like I'm just stuck there.). Is there anyone on dp who has really high placement?
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Re: streamate,daily pay,& placement
I've always been with DP for SM and I used to have top row placement (took me about 3-4 months to get there though!)
My placement has plummeted since party chat started. I'm now on row 4. But, I think it's because of so many girls earning more than me per hour doing party chat etc, rather than because I'm with a studio. Unless SM have suddenly changed the way they calculate placement?
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mine has been sucking since i switched internet - i've been on daily pay since february and i only started on stream in dec or jan, so i didn't have much of a fanbase to lose. my placement sucked til i figured out the encoder ish and then i was in the 2-4th row usually up until i moved and had to change internet. now i'm usually near the bottom of the first page - sometimes a tad higher, sometimes on the top of the second page.
in my experience, placement seems to be more about your processor speed and internet speed than anything else - and it's impossible to be on the first page if you don't have the hd icon, of course. high ratings seem to play in - but i've seen girls on the front page with only 4 stars. traffic doesn't seem to have as much to do with it. i have often wondered if being in a studio (or not being a favorite child, lol, we all know they play faves like whoa and camsharks studio has higher placement) keeps us from being first row. but i have gotten up to the second row and even once or twice the 4th spot in 1st row with good internet, a high rating, hd, sound, and phone.
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Re: streamate,daily pay,& placement
hottie maybe they havent verified you yet!
LOL
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I can't sign up for SM other than through a studio so DP is the only way I've worked SM.
When there is no serious competition (more established, English-speaking hosts) I'm #1 on the page.
I have a new theory about placement - it's ALL about your earnings, once you accumulate more earnings you could be going higher (if this thoery is correct)
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and HD encoder translates to this - when you're using it you are streaming directly from your computer to the guys without putting strain on SM's servers and the guys probably get much better quality which in turn might be translating into more $$$
SM's in turn is rewarding this behavior (which reduces their overhead) with the icon and maybe because there is a serious advantage for SM (less server load) maybe they do take the encoder in their placement equation but I think the bulk of that is how much money you're bringing in for them. it's all about the money, that would make sense.
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I am on DP and my placement is always on first page, within the first 10 rows. If I work a few hours straight, I move to the top. I'm rarely in the first 2 rows, but always somewhere between 3 and 10.
I have my theory on page placement. This is aside from using the encoder and offering phone and audio, and having 4 1/2+ stars. Those seem to be a must when it comes to page placement.
This is the theory I have developed on page placement, including the above criteria. I may be completely incorrect on this, but I have tested it. I have noticed that if I am having a lazy day, and I surf the web, I have very few people enter my room. The more I move around, the more people enter the room. I can move around for 2-5 minutes straight and 30+ people will be in my room at once. If I am talking constantly, that seems to add even more. If I am still and just sitting, 1-5 people come in and out.
I really think there is a motion sensor of some type involved. If you are moving around and being active, even as much as chewing gum or playing with your hair, the placement chance is better.
If you are on at a time when other girls meet the same criteria and they are more active than you, you will be placed lower than them.
I'm unsure if this is true, but that is my theory.
*Edit.. I hold that theory, but I don't believe that we should be cannon-balling through hoops of fire or doing back flips to be active on cam. Just some type of movement. flipping hair, chewing gum, adjusting, rummaging through a drawer beside you, dancing, whatever suits you.
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Re: streamate,daily pay,& placement
That's an interesting theory Laken. I've never thought of it as a possiblity but makes sense!
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interesting, I'm pretty neurotic with adjusting hair and chewing gum so should work in my favor :D
I had a similar theory about LJ because every single time I went out of the view of my cam for just 30 seconds (against rules) BAM! an admin had taken a snapshot and I had a strike and I was thinking they have some motion detection going on (and of course they had text pattern recognition and every time I gave my junk email in pvt I sure as hell got another strike)
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Re: streamate,daily pay,& placement
Does anyone here think that phone increases placement? My placement has definitely dropped since I signed up with DP. It is getting better though. There are a few things I am experimenting with to make it better. I'll keep you all updated! xx
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put up a schedule. That helps a ton with placement.
I don't mind getting my pay once a week. While it may be nice to get my funds daily, at 35% every dollar counts and with that extra 5% it does make a difference.
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I am happy to hear that there are girls on dp with good placement!! at least now i know its possible to move higher. my internet and processor are both pretty good..so i don't think its that.
not to sound mean but...i see girls who are like NEVER in pvt with higher placement than me and I am rarely in free chat more than 5 minutes. I am gonna try moving around more and see if that helps :).
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Re: streamate,daily pay,& placement
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Originally Posted by
LAChloe
Does anyone here think that phone increases placement? My placement has definitely dropped since I signed up with DP. It is getting better though. There are a few things I am experimenting with to make it better. I'll keep you all updated! xx
not for me!! I tried having it on and it doesn't give me higher placement at all. i left it on for 2 whole days and I checked when I took it off and I was in the exact same spot.
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Originally Posted by
OJenni!
put up a schedule. That helps a ton with placement.
I don't mind getting my pay once a week. While it may be nice to get my funds daily, at 35% every dollar counts and with that extra 5% it does make a difference.
i have my schedule all filled out ;D
you are right though...i kind of realized the other day how much 5% really is...is it even possible to leave daily pay and start right back up? i thought there was a time limit like a year or something after you left a studio.
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i think with daily pay they waive the time limit.
i've considered leaving daily pay once my financial situation improves but...i really don't want to go through the drama with sm support of opening and closing another account. i am going to switch to alertpay eventually since it has fewer fees (i use payoneer right now because it's instant but it takes alertpay like 5 days or so to transfer money to my bank acct).
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i do like daily pay...but i don't really make use of it. i only go to the atm like every week and take out my money.
i am still not sure if i would even wanna go thru opening a whole new account and then having to ask for all my features back lol
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Re: streamate,daily pay,& placement
I wonder if it has anything to do with blocking locations as well?
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I don't think phone has anything to do with it. As I understand it, your placement is based on whether or not you're HD, if you use audio, your internet speed (I think that's one of the primary considerations) and your earnings. I think it also might have something to do with how much you type. I've heard that the more you type, the lower your placement, but it's not like it's the top thing that determines your placement. If that's true, they might have some kind of key stroke capture thingy (real technical language, right?). If they do have something like that and you're looking around on other web pages while working, maybe they're registering that too?
But I also know that on SM, they have that feature that takes pictures of you. If you're getting in trouble for not being on cam, it might be because your profile picture gets replaced by your "live capture" pics. If you're not on screen, there's nothing to bring in the guys.
I have heard that camera quality and internet speed are some of the primary considerations. There are definately people on that site who are in private less than me and make a lot less with Gold Shows and who place higher than I.