Ya it took me a while too. I had the same idea about spamming them, finally i got approved!
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I am not non-nude by any means but lately all of my custom requests have been for non-nude and my most recent video sales have been for non-nude and topless content. The masturbation stuff does sell but lately it's selling less than my fetish stuff so I definitely don't think you have to offer explicit masturbation to be successful. I'm trying to move away from non-nude camming altogether so this has been an amazing realization for me. I think it's just a matter of figuring out a handful of things you're good at, or rather, let your custies pick for you, and capitalize on that. Definitely the more videos you have in those niches the better. Right now MGF doesn't keep track of how many of each video you've sold but keep track on your own, keep a list of who buys what, and then when you make more content in that niche shoot them a message and let them know that since they liked the last video so much you wanted to let them know you have a new one up. Don't be afraid to message guys. It really does work. Those simple suggestions have me making more in one week than I used to make in an entire month and my income is growing every week. I pay a lot less attention to MGF than my main site so just imagine if you put in a consistent and full time effort. You'll get there.
Most of my cam shows on MGF are actually non-nude, or nudity is an after thought or I just feel like being an exhibitionist lol and I'm horny. Probably 1/4 is actually just a straight up toy show at this point in time. I also gear my profile more towards fetish so I think that helps. I love it :)
I'm SO happy MGF is working for you Courtney! You've come so far it proves that you don't need the 'new girl' period to be successful! Yay!
Thank you for the encouragement! Your success makes me hopeful!
I am not planning on making like...thousands from the site per month...but making enough for rent would be nice (my monthly bills are about 1400~1600?)......including stuff like car payments, food etc....
But every little bit helps for pocket money and incidental things....it is a nice passive income as long as I log in a couple times a day to have my profile available.
I was doing really well the first week or so - But I also stay logged in A LOT some days.....I still haven't figured out the times the site is more active...I'm assuming the weekend, but I actually don't stay online and chat on the weekends, as I am at the boyfriends / can't do cam shows etc.
Cam shows are definitely my biggest earner on there...but part of me feels a lot of the guys use MGF to cam because other sites are more expensive....like 3/ min is a lot of cheaper and easier on the wallet then 5-7/min.
I like how the site makes me feel more creative, and I am always thinking up ways to improve myself and my content...it has been a fun experience.
THANK YOU! I'm pretty proud of my comeback too, as I really didn't think it would be possible to make as much as girls who started off doing things the right way. I still have a long way to go but you definitely don't need the new girl tag (although I think that would make things Sooooo much easier!).
Knowing what I know now, if i were brand new and had to do it all over again I would have been messaging guys from day one, offering a lot more content right from the start, and would have kept much better record of guys and sales. I also wouldn't have taken weeks off at a time due to it being slow, because it's bound to pick up some time, and I'd be at a much higher % now. But it's all good. I think anyone can rejuvenate their career if they are willing to apply some of the awesome advice given in this thread and really work on identifying what approach works best for them.
Canadian I make the most money when I chat new people or guys I've known for a while. And you don't need to go cheap, they try because they see you aren't pffering and don't do anything out of your comfort zone!
I chatted with a new guy the other night....and he told me that 3/min was "a little spendy".
I told him MGF has one of the cheapest rates for camming with a woman, that is willing to fuck herself on cam....(in more polite terms haha)...
he told me, "well actually I know of one other site" blah blah blah.
He kept talking about how great my ass looked, and all that crap....saying he wanted to check out the site before buying a cam show because he had just joined and didn't know much about the site...
I dunno, wasting like an hour on that guy has put me off on talking to guys with no star ratings on their page >_< I find a lot of guys with no ratings have the "please send me ____________ to entice me to spend $$$ on you".
I get nervous about messaging people >_< I try and make my messages personal and in-depth....but I find most guys have very vague and blank profiles...and the ones with indepth ones are quite cocky haha.
I'll need to become a better sales person haha....guys like me because I talk to them a lot, but I do that too much sometimes.
Oh my one hour? I give guys 15/20 minutes before asking them what they like to do on mgf and tell them about my goals. And some guys want to spend less but it's none of your business - it gets frustrating of you listen to them and talk to them for one hour yes, but you are quite patient. I read you talked to a guy for 3 hours the other day... guys try to get most free they can, snd if you allow them to you can't blame them!
Yeah.....I am a good "friend" to them, but they aren't to me apparently.
I guess I need a discreet way of letting them know, that I appretiate their conversations with me....but it's a two way street, they get attention / sexual release....and I should get a contribution haha >_<
Hard to learn to try and work it better! haha
thanks for the replies.
I say "So what do you like to do here? I like getting to know you/I am having fun chatting and I also have goals since I am working, blablah" I m not subtle. And those days I chat I write on bragging threads :P
Don't be afraid to chat with brand new guys with no ratings. The guys who've been around for more than a couple of months with no ratings, I tend to avoid them because it's pretty clear they're not trying to spend. But if they just joined that day or within the past few days you never know if they are going to be a good spender. I just sold a guy 3 videos the other night who was brand new, had joined that day, and had no ratings. So they can be converted.
I agree, if you chat for too long it shows the guys that it's okay to not contribute to you because they can get all the attention they want for free. I have *one* guy that I will chat with for an hour plus just because I truly enjoy chatting with him, he's super fun, always makes me feel good about myself, and has getting shows with me for almost two years so I know even if he doesn't spend on me that particular day eventually when he is ready he will come back to me.
After a while if I am getting bored with the conversation or I am just busy I will let the guy know that I am working so I don't really have too much time to chat but did he want to get a cam show or pick up some content before I go? I don't like to be pushy about getting guys to buy and I normally don't bring up content at all during the conversation unless they specifically ask. I leave it towards the end so it is putting the idea in their head but I'm also letting them know subtly that I am there to make sales and normally they will buy. If not, I haven't spent too much time chasing a dead end and have hopefully made a friend who will come back some other time once he has the credits.
I do not specifically talk about content because guys feel entitled to free chat because they "don't wanna see me naked" (do you want a prize for that?)
Yeah. I have done that the odd time...made a friend one day then the next day they purchased a photoset.
There are guys that genuinely express that I have been too generous with my time, and that they feel bad, so they purchase afew videos or a photoset. I really like those guys.
I think after some practice on there, I will get better at picking out the guys that are just feeling me out to see if I am "worthy" of their money...or if they just want to jerk off to whatever they can sneak out of me nonchalantly in conversation.
I have never tried the "I am working" angle. I should try it that way though.....if I make it sound like it is a job, rather than something I do to "meet people"...I try and push the angle that I do it for fun etc....(which is true), but maybe I need to push the $$$ part a little more frequently.
I like the guys that never talk to me really...they just drop in, contribute, tell me what they want and go on there merry way. It is more like a professional transaction, that is mutually beneficial.
I really need to sit down and comb every page of this thread. I didn't realize there was a "new girl" thing so I didn't take advantage of that, and MGF is really slow for me (when I do make money it's in nice chunks tho). I'm afraid to message the guys..I don't wanna seem like I'm spamming them or something lol
@Brilynne I was the EXACT same way. How long have you been on MGF for? I started in April or May 2011 and just leveled up for the first time at the end of 2012, so that should tell you something about how crappy I was doing up until recentlu. Are we long lost MGF cam sisters??? I also didn't want to message guys. I am so used to free chat sites where the guys come to you, it seemed so awkward and like begging for me to go to them. It took a huge shift in my mindset but Truly, it makes all the difference. MissMafia has some great posts about it in this thread, she is really the one who held me under her wing and taught me so much about how being more outgoing on there can work miracles.
"There are guys that genuinely express that I have been too generous with my time, and that they feel bad, so they purchase a few videos or a photoset." Oh sweetie pie, no no no baby girl! You never want to be so generous with your time that guys contribute out of guilt. You want them to contribute our of Appreciation! If they only but something because they feel guilty they are not likely to come back. You have to make them realize that your time is valuable, that's when they start putting value on it, too!
So far it has been hard to find that middle ground....I find guys are appreciate of the time I give, but mostly just because they like I am talking to them and not trying to "sell" something....but yeah, I can totally see how having it seem like...my time is valuable, so for them to earn my time and attention...contributing to my fund will make me put in that extra effort in the interaction etc.
I just uploaded a new profile picture tonight, and since being logged on, my profile has gotten WAY more views that it normally does (it's just a picture of my face)....but no one has started a live chat /messaged me....
seems like I just need to upload more content.... It could use some beefing up, and more selection...but also I don't offer any cheap deals like "______ videos for $5" etc....so if they are going to spend for any of the content that is worth buying on my page, it'll add up.
Thank you guys for all the suggestions...i'll try and find the posts by MissMafia you mentioned aswell! :)
That is everyone's #1 biggest challenge with MGF I think, and what we are all trying to strive for, how to chat and be friendly but firm and not waste our time. It will probably never happen that we find the perfect way to do it, but we will get close and make a lot of $$ on the way :) It is a double edged sword because the interaction is what makes us able to charge higher rates, but it is a difficult balancing act.
Brilynne I joined in may but wasn't active till september. The thing about being the "new girl" means seeing a new face on the girls' page. That is all. Canadian OMG! the guys arent being generous with you, you are working and offering a service! Compared to camsites Mgf has a higher % of paying guys but you gotta make them pay. If someone you are interested in gives a service and doesnt ask money for it are you really sure you d pay? some people may give more, but i d be guilty of trying to be cheap out of it. same for the guys. if they dont pay you it is because you dont ask!
dude: Would you have any teaser pics for me in the meantime?
Me : depends on what kind you mean, and I only send pictures for a contribution
dude: I understand. Let me know when you are on cam. I am dying to meet you.
Me : Have you seen my profile around before?
dude: yes. Your measurements are perfect. Forgive me for being direct, but I really like your breasts.
me: well, I have the odd sexy video uploaded if you're interested in seeing more of them!
dude: Always
me: well I have a new oil show video up, and a breast massage video if you're interested....the oil show is $7 and the breast video is $5
dude: Cool. If you don't mind I will save for the cam
Literally within 3 seconds of being logged in I got 2 chat invites, and then this guy wanted a cam show...but I am at the BFs and not doing them for the next few days....
how does someone see me online like, THAT QUICK and already be wanting a cam show and is talking about my nipples and all this crap.
I was just reading through the old MGF posts in this thread....talking about how girls make fake profiles and stuff to fuck with you...now I am paranoid hahaha.
...funny, he wants a teaser but not if he has to pay a very small price for it....figures.
...actually now that I think about it more, it pisses me off how forward he was being. Like...piss off, you've never talked to me before, my page is not revealing and is basically PG to PG-13....rawr not in the mood.
Many guys prefer cam/live interaction. And girls who wanna fuck around don't spend 70$+ to become premium and send chat invites..
I love cam shows, that is how I have made 90% of my income on there so far....but I keep track of who views my page, and how many times they view my page....was just surprised he messaged me that quickly.
edit: think Im just grumpy because of my period and I can't cam! >_<
I had a guy tell me that he had a falling out with a girl on MGF, and she blocked him....so he made a SECOND account, and started to chat her up.....he had her do cam shows, but never told her who he was.
I asked him why he did that, he said because he "liked how she looked naked."
So, basically, despite her displeasure with him, and blocking him - he went PAST her comfort zone, lied about who he was, and bought a second premium account to get cam shows from her.
Shit pisses me the fuck off :( ....I have blocked the odd person on there that has tried to push my boundries, or has become more of an unpleasant person in my day on MGF than a positive one.... I get afraid sometimes they will do what that guy did to that girl.
edit: The reason the guy told me this, was because he chatted with me for an hour or so...then he said he had to go....then afew mins later some guy started chatting with me...and the interaction was upbeat and fun - then he was like "oh I am so and so that just said he had to go".
I was like WTF....you have MULTIPLE accounts and are messaging me from different ones? ....WHY? Lol...uhg.
Multiple accounts aren't allowed. No matter how useless it may seem report him :O
really? I didn't know that. I suppose I really should...i'll have to look back and try and find his other account he messaged me from.
That second account of his even had reviews on it too.....
sucks because I have spent time talking to this guy after the fact...I didn't think to much on it at the time because he was making all these excuses about why he did it blah blah blah....
It really is actually quite creepy he did that to that girl. He told me at one point he eventually told her the truth about what he had been doing...but I doubt it.
He now goes from one account to the other, messaging girls / sending them chat requests to see if they are ignoring him on his main account, but answer him on his second account.