Indy Camming Vs Pay Sites
I am very curious to know what is your primary style of camming...
Indy/Blocked/niteflirt sessions?
or Free chat sites?
Me personally, I am a behind the scenes person with little to no patience for bullshit. If it isnt about money then im NOT there. I am a clip / wait by the phone type of perosn. I dont like to have to convince somebody to buy something they already know they want. My mind cant handle several insults a day without proper compensation for it. The hours I put in should be paid. I have been attracted to sites like Rude, imlive, ifriends , adultwork in the past for this very reason. on the flip side I also tried free sites like Streamate , Cams, MFC and have complete breakdowns. I think I rather watch a movie and wait until im WANTED, then convince the guy to want me. That has to fuck with your head a little bit..or maybe not.
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i'm all about clips. that's my main focus right now. free chat gets annoying. i like to spend time marketing myself building traffic to my clips that i know will pay off rather than trying to convince someone to go pvt.
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I despise free chat but it seems to be a necessary evil for me.
I am doing my best to try to build back up on Niteflirt plus Adultwork and doing clips and things, but it's just not enough cash coming in to totally do without Streamate type sites. I really hate that. Ifriends and Niteflirt's traffic have died so badly for me and it sucks. Adultwork is good some days but too inconsistent for me to count on.
I could make it okay if I didn't live in such an expensive area but I'm stuck here for the next few years. I have to have a huge income at the moment just to maintain so I have to really hustle.
I've tried indy listing sites that have the Yahoo messenger type IM indicator but usually end up leaving them or never logging in. I find putting up with Yahoo IM timewasters even harder than free chat because it's an interruption in my day that may or may not pay off, and more often than not is just a waste. At least in free chat there are several in there usually and I can just kick, ignore or ban the idiots. With yahoo I have to deal with them one on one and I hate that.
Seemed only a few out of the hundreds of IMs would buy and I lost patience with it quick.
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CamWhore
I am very curious to know what is your primary style of camming...
Indy/Blocked/niteflirt sessions?
or Free chat sites?
Me personally, I am a behind the scenes person with little to no patience for bullshit. If it isnt about money then im NOT there. I am a clip / wait by the phone type of perosn. I dont like to have to convince somebody to buy something they already know they want. My mind cant handle several insults a day without proper compensation for it. The hours I put in should be paid. I have been attracted to sites like Rude, imlive, ifriends , adultwork in the past for this very reason. on the flip side I also tried free sites like Streamate , Cams, MFC and have complete breakdowns. I think I rather watch a movie and wait until im WANTED, then convince the guy to want me. That has to fuck with your head a little bit..or maybe not.
Actually my view had changed to yours now. I'm tired of trying to "convince" someone to spend a dime. It's annoying. I'm leaning more towards indy myself but haven't given up on the big sites. For me the big sites are free advertising, because when someone wants you, they'll find you. So my main income is off of the big sites for the simple fact that there's much more traffic. MFC has been fun for me which is why I love going there to hang out chat and tease. I don't even worry about my camscore anymore because I'm just enjoying the laughter and fun of interacting with guys.
I'm going to try some other big sites and see how that goes but I would like to do indy full time at some point. There just something so relaxing about doing other things in my day and getting a jingle when someone wants to do a cam show.
I never really knew how wonderful indy felt. Just getting through someone's bs in 3 mins or less and sending them on their way when I realized they didn't want to do a show. So little aggravation. It always translates to= more time to do other things in life. Hell I can actually read a book or get through a few of my favorite tv shows doing indy.
Plus with indy you can be logged in for shows all day long and just wait for someone to ping you Meanwhile ,you've done some laundry, went shopping, took a walk, did some exercise routine all in your pj's. Love it!
So for now I'm at a 70/30 split 75%( Big Sites) 25%( Indy). I'm looking for these two to swap places, but all in good time I suppose.
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Mine looks like 95% Indy 5% Big site.
I think its important not to leave big sites out when your trying to make a name for yourself!
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Indy all the way gotta love the more percentage to earn from doing it. :)
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laurielegs
I could make it okay if I didn't live in such an expensive area but I'm stuck here for the next few years. I have to have a huge income at the moment just to maintain so I have to really hustle
Ugh, same. Big cities have their pluses but I'm not sure if its worth it for a cammer. Totally thinking about moving somewhere ridiculously cheap so I can stack up and not spend over a thousand a month to live in a small box lol.
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Free chat sites make me bitter. Free text makes me even more mad. But they are necessary evils. I am only speaking for myself here. I really wish I could make all my money on indy sites. It is so much easier sometimes.
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I feel like you are saying everything I think all the time !!!! I have only ever worked on ifriends and streamate . Ifriends I LOOOOOOVED. You dont have to use audio all the time too which is great. I havent really heard of the other sites you mentioned but im curious to hear more about them... earning potential ... styles.... peak times.... Streamate has one benefit that when you sign on you can estimate approximately how much hourly you will make where as ifriends you never know... Ive made 850.00 in one night there then 50.00 the next ... its a bit of a crap shoot. lol. Then again that was almost a year ago when I quit to move to streamate but im making the move back i think... or at least splitting my time so that I dont want to poke my eyes out dealing with beggars asking to see my boobs for free or worse... 1.00 !!! ???!!!
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Originally Posted by
CamWhore
I am very curious to know what is your primary style of camming...
Indy/Blocked/niteflirt sessions?
or Free chat sites?
Me personally, I am a behind the scenes person with little to no patience for bullshit. If it isnt about money then im NOT there. I am a clip / wait by the phone type of perosn. I dont like to have to convince somebody to buy something they already know they want. My mind cant handle several insults a day without proper compensation for it. The hours I put in should be paid. I have been attracted to sites like Rude, imlive, ifriends , adultwork in the past for this very reason. on the flip side I also tried free sites like Streamate , Cams, MFC and have complete breakdowns. I think I rather watch a movie and wait until im WANTED, then convince the guy to want me. That has to fuck with your head a little bit..or maybe not.
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I don't use any big sites anymore but I market the fuck out of myself and like to think I'm pretty damn good at it, thanks to several years of online marketing experience. It takes a lot of knowledge and constant upkeep, but I'm fine with that. I've always been a bit of an internet nerd and spend a lot of time online anyway, so I'm perfectly happy sitting around nerding out most days ;D
I make great money and I'm happy with my life, not just the biz part.
The only thing I really don't like about the indy thing is that it's impossible to find one good payment solution so I have about 10 different ways to collect money. I'd love to cut that in half! I would happily use a big camsite (or even a small/medium one) if there were one offering the services I need at a decent commission!
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I'm presently toying with the idea of doing a bit of independent work myself..It's not about all the beggars/free loaders tho. It's about the sites themselves. Shitty sites with shitty software while the webmasters are making a living off of MY work. Pisses me right off. And okay, I'll admit I'm a little burned out with the "free chat" thing too.
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I signed up with a indy site a week ago and I've only done 2 shows from there and the rest were timewasters asking me to do crap that's not listed on my profile. The thing about indy is you have to have regulars or alot of guys IMing you everyday to make a decent amount of money. So I'm still working SM & other camsites until I build up enough regs to just do indy.
In indy, you're not gonna get requests for shows everyday, so that's the catch. The concept sounds good of not being in free chat, but it takes a long time to make indy your main source of income. They also don't pay quickly like some camsites do. There's a 15 day wait to get your money for doing shows. That's some bullshit but I have to deal with it.
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What are some Indy cam sites you girlies recommend? Thinking of adding that to my list of things to do but I'm just not sure how to go about it.
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I do indy but that means being logged in 14+ hours a day (basically every waking moment). It's a huge commitment. I can't do free chat though. Yuck
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Originally Posted by
CamWhore
I am very curious to know what is your primary style of camming...
Indy/Blocked/niteflirt sessions?
or Free chat sites?
Me personally, I am a behind the scenes person with little to no patience for bullshit. If it isnt about money then im NOT there. I am a clip / wait by the phone type of perosn. I dont like to have to convince somebody to buy something they already know they want. My mind cant handle several insults a day without proper compensation for it. The hours I put in should be paid. I have been attracted to sites like Rude, imlive, ifriends , adultwork in the past for this very reason. on the flip side I also tried free sites like Streamate , Cams, MFC and have complete breakdowns. I think I rather watch a movie and wait until im WANTED, then convince the guy to want me. That has to fuck with your head a little bit..or maybe not.
I'm EXACTLY like you hun! I need paying by the minute, or the promise that whatever low paying/ free shit I'm doing is almost immediately going to LEAD to something worth £££. That's why I now have a list as long as my arm of sites i've joined "for promotion/ exposure", which i have never spent more than a few hours on LOL, including SL, MPP, XGirls etc. The way forward, for me at least, is building a base around camsites, then getting THOSE custies to eventually become my indie customers. It's happened a few times where they've found my twitter, then bought a few clips, and i've then been able to use payoneer with them for future stuff :D