Soooo very confused about Skype shows
It's becoming obvious that I'm going to have to do Skype shows, since that seems to be all anyone wants (which makes me wonder why they log on to these sites?). That's fine, but I'm really new to all of this, and I don't have the first clue as to how I would go about doing it. The whole thing just kind of baffles me. :confused: Do you charge by the minute? Obviously, you would collect the money up front, but do you just set a timer or something and stop whenever the amount of time they've paid for is up? I don't even know what a reasonable rate would be ... I don't want to ask too much or too little. I feel so stupid that I don't know any of this, but I feel like I'm turning away a lot of business because I don't do Skype shows ... it just seems so insecure to me. Like it would be all too easy to get ripped off. If anyone would be kind enough to fill me in on the basics, I would be SO grateful!! :thanx:
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What site are you on that people are asking? Some of your questions depend on it.
Also a lot of people expect Skype shows that are like $20 for half an hour. Obviously not happening! I would charge it so that I got $1.50 - $2.00 per minute.
You've got it right, make sure you get the money upfront, before you do the show, for sure!
I'm on MFC and I get asked like 20 times, each time I log on, "do you do skype shows?" so I tell them 40 tokens per minute and they just "disappear". lol I wouldn't go lower than 30 tokens per minute though. At 30 tokens per minute, you're making 1.50/min.
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just charge them what you think your worth per minute, not what some other model charges. b/c some models have been doing this for awhile, so of course they would have higher rates. and then again some models are just cheap so their rates would be lower. start at a base price for x amount of time, and then if they want you to use toys, then lift the price higher, if they want anal w/ toys, then up the price again, ect. and yea set a timer, b/c i downloaded the new version of skype, and i cant see how long the show is, unless ur using the old version of skype, and when they have like 3 minutes left, let them know. and then just politely let them know the show is over when the time is up.
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i cant help you a lot on this topic because i dont do skype shows, and for a bunch of reasons.
1. they'll pay you via paypal, make sure paypal doesnt find out about it or they'll suspend your account.
2. most guys want skype shows bc its cheaper for them and they usually request you do illegal things
3. they can record you easier
4. if the site you found the guy on finds out you contacted them privately through skype (which isnt really hard) you will get banned and lose $
5. the guys might scam you.
i guess if i decided to do a skype show i probably would have them pay up front, the negotiation is up to you, probably setting up a block time would be best, say maybe 30 or 40 per 15 min
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with skype shows, payment is done through a third party. mfc tokens, gift certs, alertpay, okpay, ccbill, etc. it's a block set of time the custy is buying. so let's say you're charging $3 per min & he wants 30 mins. that's $90 he would pay to you before the start of the show. i don't have a timer but i do keep an eye on the clock & when it's getting close to the end, i just remind them nicely like "oh our time is almost over hon" or something. as for your price, it's all up to you. i wouldn't be comfortable charging less than $3/min but that's me.
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alys
1. they'll pay you via paypal, make sure paypal doesnt find out about it or they'll suspend your account.
it's true that they will suspend your account so you shouldn't use it at all actually. don't want your money up in the air like that. use other payment options.
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Honestly, it's not worth it in my opinion but if I were to do it, I'd charge my cut. On MFC that's $3/ min. Slightly off topic but have you thought about doing a Skype Show Raffle? These sell on MFC I'm not sure who you cam with though.
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To dissuade guys from requesting skype shows, I'll charge MUCH higher than the site. I normally charge $5/min or around 1500 Tokens, depending on the site. I tell guys its a pain in my ass and they need to buy a block of time (15 mins, minimum). I never take their skype IDs or add them until they've paid me for that, too. I charge $5 for my skype ID.
Ladies, if you do skype shows, PLEASE charge more for it! Charge as much as you can! They will pay if you tell them that's they're only option or to use the site, instead. I have guys on NF who will pay for my skype ID and pay for the call/show without any problem. Its not until I started camming on live hat sites that I ran into guys that ever expected to pay LESS than the site's rates for shows outside of it. That's a privilege to me that should come at a more expensive rate. Make them pay more.
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Thanks so much to all of you for the help! You ladies are awesome! innes, I've received the vast majority of requests for Skype shows through MFC, though I've had some from cams.com people too. vivianbear, I agree with you that Skype shows should be more, if for no other reason than it's a huge pain in the ass. I'm still kind of debating with myself over whether I want to get into it or not. I really don't want to, but I need to start bringing in some income and I'm getting a little desperate. I haven't been doing too bad on cams.com, but last night was my first night on MFC and I just couldn't seem to catch the interest of anyone who was willing to spend any money (though of course I attracted plenty of attention from broke beggars :grumpy: ) I was all excited because I had someone take me to true private really shortly after I first logged on, but that was the only money I made all night aside from a few 10 or 20 token tips. I know this is off-topic, but what the hell is with the PM'ing on MFC? I know that no one is going to pay to see me sit there and type, but I got sooo many PMs and people get all pissy if you don't answer them!
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^^Yeah that is extremely annoying! I think there's a way to set your PM's to friends only I just never bothered to try to figure it out. I just ban them. I don't cater to little pussies.
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A lot of guys watch through the PMs and so they can't chat in the room. If they do they have to chat through PM.
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Why give them full attention and an HD picture for less money than they would pay on the site?
Your time is worth money and it's going to take time to set up payment, etc. so you are making even LESS even if you charge full price. Cheap asses. I may quit offering them at all.
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I use alertpay. Since Skype means logging off the site, logging on to skype, and allowing them to do cam2cam and voice AND get a better picture, I charge $75 for 15 minutes or $60 for 10 mins. I've been kinda generous lately and have gone as low as $40 for 15 minutes (cheap SM-ers >:( ). Today I had a guy who couldn't figure out how to use his alertpay invoice to pay me $60, so he instead paid me 1300 MFC tokens. I guess it's his money, so whatever :D
Also, I just watch the time and give them some warning like "you've got 2 minutes left, so you know, babe!" I once had a guy buy more time, so I made $135 in under 30 minutes. Also, I charge more if they want to see me fuck someone.
I love skype, though, really. :)
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One more thing! I don't give them a set time when I have sex with a guy on camera. I can't control how long that lasts and I'm not going to try to dictate when said guy cums. Once he blows his load, we're done. No one's complained, yet.
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This is another reason I love AW :). Skype shows (msn and yahoo too) are all booked and paid for through the site before the show takes place. I sell Skype shows in blocks of 10 mins @ £1.50 pm (£15.00 per show) I find that a lot of guys feel 10 mins is not long enough and book more/pay more. So before I log of direct cam and into Skype I know I have a guaranteed payment. I always watch the time and never let them run over, of course I am polite etc but tbh, most guys have cum before the time is up and they are usually the ones to leave first ;) Love it when this happens as it means they have paid for 10 mins and only played for 5! Seems I'm better than I thought;)
Just as a warning to anyone using AW that is unaware. When a guy books he is able to alter the amount of credits to pay, naturally they try to pay less, however before accepting the booking you can see they have changed the amount and you are able to change it back to what it should be, if the custy doesn't like it or is unable to pay the full amount, he will not cofirm the booking and no one loses. Read the custys booking carefully before accepting! Once you've accepted it's too late to change.
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vivianbear
To dissuade guys from requesting skype shows, I'll charge MUCH higher than the site. I normally charge $5/min or around 1500 Tokens, depending on the site. I tell guys its a pain in my ass and they need to buy a block of time (15 mins, minimum). I never take their skype IDs or add them until they've paid me for that, too. I charge $5 for my skype ID.
Ladies, if you do skype shows, PLEASE charge more for it! Charge as much as you can! They will pay if you tell them that's they're only option or to use the site, instead. I have guys on NF who will pay for my skype ID and pay for the call/show without any problem. Its not until I started camming on live hat sites that I ran into guys that ever expected to pay LESS than the site's rates for shows outside of it. That's a privilege to me that should come at a more expensive rate. Make them pay more.
^^ THIS
I charge the same rate as a true private, tokens only. Never Paypal! You'd think I was the greediest person in the world asking for true private rate, but screw it - if they want the HD, c2c with voice, they can pay for it. I figure I'm not getting voyeur tokens and the logging off mfc/onto skype, finding them, initiating the skype, and then back onto mfc again, is a big hassle. The reason they all beg for skypes is because girls are short-changing themselves by practically giving skypes away. It's a damn shame.
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Alot of the gals here are right, most just want your time for little or no money. Remember once they have your skype name they will try to pester you for free shows all the time with empty promises of payment later.
Had one guy promise to pay me next week for a show I was to do then. I dont even do skype shows. To shut them up I post 5000 tkns for a 10 minute skype show.
Your loosing out on Traffic, spy mode and losing the crowd of guys on your page. They are being selfish and trying to angle you out of money & time. I dont trust them at all for doing that kind of crap. When it is easier just to go private on MFC.
Good Luck,
Sam
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Charge 3$ a minute for cam and mic or whatever you want really but the average is 3$ per minute. I charge 3.50$ just because. I never have a problem with guys not finishing in time or whatever but I don't mind going 1-2 minutes over the amount of time they purchased either. Most guys know exactly how much time they need to finish and they buy enough.
I just keep and eye on my clock on the bottom corner of my computer but I don't watch it like a hawk. Nothing is a bigger turn off than a girl who sits and counts down every second. Give a minute or two if you have to and the guy will surely remember that you were awesome and it will pay off in the future :)
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innes
I'm on MFC and I get asked like 20 times, each time I log on, "do you do skype shows?" so I tell them 40 tokens per minute and they just "disappear". lol I wouldn't go lower than 30 tokens per minute though. At 30 tokens per minute, you're making 1.50/min.
OMG...this!
I kid you not...tonight on MFC this fucker with 445 tokens asked about Skype, and he said "Ten minutes is all I need." I thought that's perfect because I do have a ten minute minimum for 400 tokens (that way I get $20, making it $2/min). I told him it's 400 tokens for ten minutes of Skype, and he left my room. LMAO.
And if he thinks he's gonna find lots of other models offering Skype at that reasonable price, he needs to get real. He could've tipped me the 400, got what he wanted, AND still have 45 tokens left over.
When I had only made a disappointing 300+ tokens on MFC the other night and was getting ready to log out anyway, this guy tipped 400 for 10 minutes of Skype. That was cool, because camscore-wise it's helpful, and that's money I was able to get the next day (I have daily pay). 9 times out of 10 I'd say the guys who ask about Skype wanna do that PayPal bullshit. This guy actually tipped tokens for it, and he was a nice guy who's returned to my room since then.
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I do 1 skype show a month, if that..
on top of what Sam38g said, I find it very annoying to waste my time with the before and after the skype show. there are at least a few minutes of "before" and "after"... preparing the show.. asking what he wants,maybe a diff outfit, etc... saying good bye at the end.. the promises that he will do this again...
These add up to at least 5 more minutes.