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Guy requesting me to take pics for him.
Hi guys, I work on SM and a guy who I have spoken with a few times (but has never taken me private) has asked if I would do any custom pics for him.
I told him that I could do that for gold and to send me a mail of what types of custom pics he would like, which he did. I have no clue what to charge him for pics though, he sent me a list of like 6 or 7 different things he would like to see most of them are light BDSMish. Tying up my tits and things like that.
I don't want to charge so much that he won't buy them, but I don't want to sell myself short either. What sort of prices do you girls charge for custom pics?
Thanks so much for your help ;)
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Re: Guy requesting me to take pics for him.
Are you really going to be okay with pics of you floating around out there?
Really think about it before you do it.
I mean will you want to run for president 10 years from now?
Could these pics surface years later to haunt you or your family?
Consider how they can be done as classy as possible.
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My rule is that I charge for my time plus the amount I think the pics are 'worth'. This rule makes my pics very expensive but why spend an hour taking pics for $15 when you could have been doing shows for $$$$
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Re: Guy requesting me to take pics for him.
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Originally Posted by
Pink Chelle
Are you really going to be okay with pics of you floating around out there?
Really think about it before you do it.
I mean will you want to run for president 10 years from now?
Could these pics surface years later to haunt you or your family?
Consider how they can be done as classy as possible.
If I was worried about this I wouldnt be on cam to begin with honestly. People can alllllways screen cap you and send the pics-a-floatin ;)
It is something that has been thought on quite a bit! hehe
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Originally Posted by
BritishBecky
My rule is that I charge for my time plus the amount I think the pics are 'worth'. This rule makes my pics very expensive but why spend an hour taking pics for $15 when you could have been doing shows for $$$$
Thats very true Becky, I'm wondering if it's even worth it, and why he doesn't just take me private instead. Maybe thats why i'm having the issue with what to charge, it just doesn't seem like the time that it's going to take to get 'sellable' pictures is worth it.
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i'd charge $100-$150 gold prepaid if it took 1-2 hrs to do. (i'd only make $30-$45 of that on daily pay.) less than that and it's not really worth my time. if he didn't want to pay it he could take me private - honestly the fact this dude hasn't ever taken you private throws up red flags for me, he sounds like a time waster.
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Put your foot down and make him take you private to discuss his interest in the set. He hasn't even spent money on you, at this point. Its not worth entertaining the idea until he shows he's worth some money. Does he tip you at all? How do you know he's a customer worth pay attention to?
Every custy I've done a custom-anything for has spent money on shows, at one point. I typically don't offer custom content unless its to a customer who is already in good standing. These guys are the ones who already know how much time and effort it really takes to make good content and my concerns about security. I charge as much as $150/set (vids and about 15 stills) and am never met with resistance. These guys have regular communication with me and are familiar with my rates. Some have paid as much as $50 for a single picture (during FinDom sessions) and will buy literally anything I put up on my profile, when I refresh my content.
Don't sell yourself short to appease someone who isn't genuinely interested in being a full customer. Make him go through the steps to earn your trust with your content and be clear about your expectations. These men aren't entitled to anything from you, much less a collection of your images.
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Re: Guy requesting me to take pics for him.
Thanks for the replies, this is exactly what I was looking for. It did throw up some flags for me too that he has not even entertained the idea of taking me private, or so it seems to me.
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^^
Good call. We have to start impressing upon these guys that custom content is a privilege, not a right! That's something we should be reserving as an incentive to our best customers, I think. Guys who really support us and appreciate our style will get the most creative content we do.
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I agree with Vi. I get a few emails a week saying, oh i saw you at this so and so site, can you make me a custom blah blah. And it's just like, who are you? If you found me in my chat room you should have tipped me a lot or gone private instead of just emailing me to ask me for a service i don't really do. That way I know you're not on some bull shit. Either way, money is money and i'd charge around 100-150 for like a video and a few pix. Don't say his name or make it tooooo personal (or you can edit it out later), that way you can keep reselling the same videos so it'll be worth it,
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I would definitely avoid spending a lot of time making content unless he has already spent some money on you in private! I would say that you could actually tell him to come online WHILE you are taking the shots (have him sit in in exclusive while you do it, kinda of a voyeur situation) - it gets you more money, and it guarantees for both of you that no one is getting screwed over (i.e. him asking to see a "preview" or some bull like that to make sure you are actually going to do it before he sends money).
Then I would charge per photo on top of that.
The thing that I do for photos is that I actually send physical photos, not files. I also SIGN the photos - usually big as possible and right over a lot of the goodies, and to his name specifically. (I send photos as thank yous for amazon wishlist stuff) Its like watermarking your feed - yes, he can still scan it and put it up for all to see, but its going to have your name on it, and HIS name, so you know who put it up and you can flag them. (I watermark and time stamp my feed, so there is no hiding!!)
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Re: Guy requesting me to take pics for him.
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vivianbear
Put your foot down and make him take you private to discuss his interest in the set.
This.
I've made the mistake, repeatedly, of allowing this sort of thing to be discussed over email. I don't know why it didn't occur to me sooner, but forcing members to pay for the discussion is one of the best decisions I've made.
I'm fine with a short email exchange about pre-existing pics or vids, but if they want custom, they need to pay for my attention.
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Here is a list of my prices:
http://www.southern-charms.com/innes/custom.htm
It is black text on black background, yes, it is going to be fixed tomorrow *sigh* just highlight it to read it though :)
But yeah, to prove he is serious, you should tell him to go private with you :P
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Re: Guy requesting me to take pics for him.
Some of these guys are time wasters. I find that they keep coming back to talk about it because they're getting off on the free attention.
I would also be very leery of the guys that are pushing for pictures of you. Future wank material that they don't have to pay for? I always see these guys as being cheap or wanting to share your content.
He can just taken you private already.
I actually had the same guy come to my room each time begging for this and never tipped or did a private. I need to remember to ban him when he comes back.
The bottom line is that guys can find clips of women on sites. Pictures are the easiest thing to come by. The problem is he wants to feel like he made you do something just for him. His own personal high moment. He should be on MGF or C4S with that request but again he doesn't want to buy content that some other man may have. He wants to be the 1st. Can we say ego? Plus if you don't know what rates most ladies charge, you'll probably offer a really cheap price. Then afterwards realized that he got over.
If you decide to take pictures make sure you watermark the hell out of them and make sure to offer top dollar for them. I wouldn't accept less and some of the MGF girls sell their content pretty low.
I would throw out a rough number of $150 just to see what he says. If he says ooh wow that's too high. Then ask what he was expecting to pay. If he says ohh like $5 or $15. Ban , Block and move on. He's taken way too much of your free time.Time you could have been getting paid for. Also 35% of $15 is $5.25? Seriously this guy needs to go.
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id insist on "doing it together". like, he comes in pvt (pays for your time while you are doing this), watches you get all ready and set up, and when it looks picture perfect to him, you take the pic. and so on. and then he also tips you nicely (well, here you are on your own - you decide how much you want for that) and only then you send him those pics.
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actually no, not doing in it pvt, doing it in excl. as thats something sother guys who might join your pvt show wouldnt be interested to see. and thats a pretty specific thing after all, that should defo be in exclusive.
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Re: Guy requesting me to take pics for him.
You have all been so helpful! :) Thank you so much. He has been in my free room for 30 minutes or so a day for about a week usually leaves saying he has to go take his kid here or there or pick the kid up or something. I do think that it's probably an ego thing with him. That he wants something that no one else has. I'll throw a number out there and tell him we need to take the pictures together, in exclusive so that i'm sure he is satisfied with what he gets!
Thanks again girls!
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I'm almost willing to bet you never get a dime from him. I don't pay attention to guys who won't even come to private.
Plus as far as I know you are not allowed to do outside contact with these guys so how would you get the pics to him without risking your account there?
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^^ That's what I was thinking while reading this thread? SM would have a cow if they found out, wouldn't they?
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there's what i have done with custom photos and videos on sm and not being able to send those to the guys directly - when a guy is in pvt, id TELL (not type) him my twitter name and post those pics on twitter, a link, that is - in a password protected place (ummm that would be my own server, but im sure there are many places like that, you dont have to own a server for that) and tell him the password when he has paid for them.
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Re: Guy requesting me to take pics for him.
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Originally Posted by
laurielegs
I'm almost willing to bet you never get a dime from him. I don't pay attention to guys who won't even come to private.
Plus as far as I know you are not allowed to do outside contact with these guys so how would you get the pics to him without risking your account there?
I honestly just assumed that I would use their mail system and their attach option inside of the mail to mail the pictures. Never even thought about going through all of that other crap to get them to him! :)
I mailed him yesterday and gave him the base rate for the photo session and then my price per pic. He has not responded. hahahaha :)
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Re: Guy requesting me to take pics for him.
If he is sitting in your room NOT taking you private or exclusive then he is CHEAP and getting a kick out of getting you to talk and email with him
He is NEVER going to spend money. Time is money. Value yourself higher than free. Start kicking him out of your room until he does start spending. Warn him, then ban him. Why continue to give him what he wants for free.
Good Luck,
Sam
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^Pretty much this. He's a cam customer ripoff. He's been jerking off to talking in detail about tying you up and whatever else and dangling "maybe Ill pay..." as the carrot.
30mins of freechatting a day x every day x for a full week x this post is way too much time spent on a freeloading jerkoff trying to extract a free daily orgasm. By giving him a real figure he knows his hustle is up and he'll try someone else.
Do you have your settings set so guests without a credit card on file cannot talk to you? If you dont, try enabling it, and I bet he won't even be able to access your room for you to kick/ban him.
I tend to not immediately shut freechat lounge lizards either since it does end in a payoff half the time but they stop getting my full attention when my BS detector goes off (getting your attention is the real financial incentive for camming tbh)
There are hoards of cam customer ripoffs who realize saying to a camgirl "oh youll get paid if you let me see [x] or talk about [x]" may get the girl's eyes to light up... it must work since these jerks are everywhere.
If he does pay Ill eat my stiletto, but otherwise he isnt worth even remembering the screen name of.
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I never talked to him in detail about the photos or anything, he mentioned it and I told him to send me a mail of what he is looking for, and we *may* be able to work something out. I didn't even respond back until after I posted here I made him wait a couple of days because I was just unsure on what to tell him.
He actually did respond to my mail back, when I told him how much it would be upfront and then for each picture. But I think I might just block him and move along. He said he would see if he could come up with the amount that I want for the photos, that money is 'tight' right now. And that SM keeps saying there is an issue with his CC or some crap.
But all of the info I have gotten from this thread is valuable to me for future reference! I truly appreciate the responses and insight!
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Make sure you put some kind of text on the pics. I use ManyCam on my encoder so if anyone screen shots me or records my videos and sells them, at least they say Watch Holly Jayde on Streamate or my pics have my logo on them.