regulars that start talking in free chat?
what do u girls when u have regulars who go pvt with u very frequently then all of a sudden start thinking its ok to try and talk and have a whole converstaion in free chat! u try and get them to go pvt but they are adamant they arent having pvt today!
its annoying!
i dnt wanna be rude and persisitant coz they are regulars but they cant sit there and talk to me for free!
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I just don't give them my full attention. I'll pay attention to the first few things they say and every now and again I'll answer them but my full attention is for privates :)
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I don't usually mind if they are keeping my chatroom busy. I can only say only 'hey hru, where are you from' for so long. also, just because he stopped spending doesn't mean he wants everything for free. he could be waiting til his next paycheck to to spend on you in private, but wants to keep talking to you until then.
Remind him that you have to treat everyone in the room equally because you're working, and if he wants your full attention he should go prvt
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Blonde-Ambition
i dnt wanna be rude and persisitant coz they are regulars but they cant sit there and talk to me for free!
lol
oh they can and they will..
thats why I dont belive in regulars...
Ur a regular if u give me money regularly..
other then that,, ur a freeloader lol
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Does anyone else get really frank with regs about telling them to try to spend a little bit, every time they see you, in chat? Be it in tips or in prvts, I tell my guys, "Hey, let me know what your budget is and I can expect you to spend a little here and a little there, every time I see you". I think this helps them understand that A) I'm there to get paid and B ) them tipping me, even moderately when they come into my chat room really helps boost my morale, while just hanging out, without having high expectations every time for making big money. I get good feedback from just being honest and I don't lose guys from getting frustrated or moody when they don't spend.
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Not everyone can afford to spend money every time they come in. Think for a second how much these guys actually spend ($3.99 + a minute, so a 10 minute private costs around $40). I know with the payout % we get we sometimes forget how much money these guys spend. Quite frankly it depresses me when I see $350 as the total made on my tracking page on SM, as I am reminded that I actually brought in $1000, but SM has taken $650 of that money.
In free chat I do entertain the customers that normally spend with light banter-talk about news, politics, pets, etc. I do remind them that if they want to see something like my tits they must either go private or give gold. They don't get any sexually charged talk in free chat either (so no questions like "are you wet yet?" or "when's the last time you had sex?"). But light conversation is always appreciated.
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I don't mind chatting. I tell everyone, the only thing I do in free chat is...chat. So, if a regular comes in and just chats thats fine with me. I will ask them "are you thinking about a show today...or just wanna chat?" They know I'm there to make money, and I'm sure not going to turn down a private to keep chatting with them. I like it actually, makes the time pass between shows. No sexual talk of course, weather, news, random stuff.
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I agree with Jenni & Candace. I don't mind light chatting in between privates & my regulars know me well enough to know that if a potential show with another member might happen, they get put on hold, and they are fine with that. I have quite a few regulars that have been following me for over 2 years (and still do pvts on a regular basis) and I've kept them around because they know I will chat with them, even on the nights where they can't take me private.
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Bumping this because it's given great advice! I'm trying to learn how to deal with regulars because I'm not sure how to handle them right now. I acknowledge them when they come into chat and talk and stuff, but wasn't sure how much I should "push" going into prvt/excl.
I had a guy that got a 15 minute block the other day, then he came in chat yesterday and didn't spend, I wasn't sure what I should have done so I was just nice, etc. Then today he got another 15 minute block!
So I'm going to continue to just be nice, maybe give a little extra attention, then if they start to get needy/too time consuming thennnn remind them they have to pay for my full attention. Now I know that they might not spend every time they come into my room, and that is okay as long as they aren't pulling me away from other custies.
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it's worse on mfc when they think its ok to private-message u all day instead of taking pvt. I find that a lot of guys wont even chat in the free chatroom on there, but they have absolutely NO problem talking constantly in PM when my freechat is DEAD. (Obviously they paid 2 get on PM list) but its so annoying when u wasted 10 minutes chatting and they say "right im off 2 work now cya".
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I don't have a problem with regs who can't spend every time they come in my room. I'll still converse with them because I understand they are on a budget and it's my personality that keeps me coming back. HOWEVER, if a reg goes more than a few weeks/a month without getting a show or at least tipping they are officially dead to me and they get no more than a hello until they either spend again or move on to someone else. If they are not going to use the site for its intended purpose, I feel no obligation to continue giving them special attention. I've had some regs for 2+ years who have followed me from site to site, but most regulars have a shelf life and it's important to not continue rewarding them after they've reached their expiration date.
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CourtneyRaine
I don't have a problem with regs who can't spend every time they come in my room. I'll still converse with them because I understand they are on a budget and it's my personality that keeps me coming back. HOWEVER, if a reg goes more than a few weeks/a month without getting a show or at least tipping they are officially dead to me and they get no more than a hello until they either spend again or move on to someone else. If they are not going to use the site for its intended purpose, I feel no obligation to continue giving them special attention. I've had some regs for 2+ years who have followed me from site to site, but most regulars have a shelf life and it's important to not continue rewarding them after they've reached their expiration date.
Could not agree more! Fantastic advice that has worked for me too!
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Any model who doesn't like talking in free chat probably will not like MyFreeCams very much, because that is a very "chatty" site where it's expected that models are interacting and showing their personality. The 'ignore everyone and wait for guys to take you private' thing may work fine for some on Streamate, but on MFC it will just piss off a lot of guys who do have tokens.
Honestly, I don't know how a model can keep her sanity in free chat without a little chitchat with members (unless she's doing other stuff online in between shows). I'd get bored very quickly if no one ever said a word to me. Now on sites like AdultWork and ImLive where you can just avoid free chat, you don't have to worry about any of that stuff, but then again you don't get as much traffic on those sites.
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I think it really depends on the site you're on and your style. The first time a customer does it I'll let it slide but the 2nd or 3rd time I have tell them something. I've made it known to my (SM) regs/customers that I don't like chit chatting for free or when they stop by to say hi. I've kind of trained them to respect my time. If they want to sit in my room and talk without a pvt then I make sure they know that the gold button is their friend.
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TeenageAnnie
it's worse on mfc when they think its ok to private-message u all day instead of taking pvt. I find that a lot of guys wont even chat in the free chatroom on there, but they have absolutely NO problem talking constantly in PM when my freechat is DEAD. (Obviously they paid 2 get on PM list) but its so annoying when u wasted 10 minutes chatting and they say "right im off 2 work now cya".
I totally agree with this behavior right here the " I'm off to work cya". What I notice is they just need some bursts of quick attention. What I started doing to avoid this is ignoring pms randomly. Or you can even say "hold on a sec got another pm". This created the "spend something" vibe. What I'll even do at other times is type to no one in an email or notepad. They can hear me clicking away and will think I'm talking to someone else. Other times I'll just repeat " thanks for that offline tip to a person to a person that isn't even there". lol I'm crazy like that ha!!
What happens is usually this :
1. The guy starts typing frantically yet still not tipping -- This is an indication that he has no money at all. So I'm very well aware now even if he wanted to pretend he does.
2. The guy will tip something for the attention to be switched over to him. <-- This is exactly what I wanted.
3. He'll get upset and say " sounds like you're busy" or " ohh brb" or even "Ohh xxxx model is pming me be back". Some will attempt to do the "brb" as a means to wait this conversation out and then return with "I'm back". He's in your room still but logged in as a guest and decided to wait your fake cam member out. Again he still has no money but he needs to find a way to refresh and restart the attention on him.
^ This last one used to get me all the time. Guy would do that several times and still never spend. So now when I get that type when he returns and says "I'm back" I'll usually ignore his re-entry and just speak to the entire room and say ok guys be back on later!**Closes Room***. Usually that guy will try to run into a pm really fast and say something like " are you still doing skype/private???" don't answer just log off. If you answer him he'll say something like "ooh just wondering and log off". He's pissed that he can't get your attention but still wants to be the last person you acknowledge. Once I figured out the game I start laughing when my pm blows up as I log off. I just ignore them all.
I had a guy contact me on MGF for a camshow. He said he couldn't do it right now since he was leaving. So I thought "wtf was the point in messaging me in the first place?". So I said ok no worries. He continues to have a conversation and I stop him and say "umm remember you have to leave right now, We'll talk later bye". He goes "LOL". So I say "What's so funny? I'm not trying to make you late for where you need to be". Go ahead ttyl.
^ The point was he didn't have money for a cam show at least not at that moment. He just wanted the attention and to dangle bits of cash over my head.
The sad thing is that it shouldn't be this complicated and so many unnecessary mind games shouldn't be involved. Still since some of the men tend to play like this, you have to beat them at their own games.
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cherryblossomsinspring
The sad thing is that it shouldn't be this complicated and so many unnecessary mind games shouldn't be involved. Still since some of the men tend to play like this, you have to beat them at their own games.
I love you! That is all.
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I just remind them that I'm not getting paid in free chat and if they don't take the hint, I announce that I'l just log off until people are ready to buy shows. I had a guy that would only buy Gold Shows. As we all know, you don't profit unless you get plenty of people who remain throughout the entire show. So, the only time I do shows is when it's made worth my while. You'd think the guy would at least tip when he can see that it's slow for me but all he wants to do is sit there in the chat room and talk. He's even dared to ask me to reveal myself on camera but I refuse since he doesn't even bother to tip.
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not sure what site this is....
but if its one where you can tip in free chat..ask for tips!!!!
this usually results in the following....
1. chatty regular tips
2. someone else tips (bonus if chatty regular wants to 1 up the guy and tips right after!)
3. chatty regular is broke and quickly leaves pretending he doesn't see it (yayyy at least he is gone - ask again if he comes back later lol)
4. chatty regular IGNORES your request with no shame and keeps CHATTING (if you're like me you would ban at that point, or if you have more patience and hope to keep him as regular..threaten to start kicking people since no one is tipping and guilt him into tipping..or watch him leave fast as hell lol)
5. chatty regular actually has half a brain and at the reminder that you like $$$ takes you pvt!
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Have you ever gone to dinner with the kind of people that they start the meter running as soon as you sit down and the more that a waitress fucks up the more money they take off the end tip?
That is what I do with guys, but with attention instead of money.
The closer it is to the time you originally have given me money I will give you more time, but as each days passes I will give less and less attention until I hit zero.