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I normally don't give a rat's ass about what any other girl does but ladies you have to be careful with scat clips. It is not worth getting in to serious trouble. That is one illegal fetish that is taking seriously by the authorities and that tiny bit of money you make from it is not worth the trouble and fines you will have from it.
No, they don't allow it because the payment processor didn't want to handle it.
Crushing animals was allowed on clips4sale at one time. So was hypnosis. Then it was pulled because of the PP.
Full bondage with sex isn't illegal. Breath play isn't illegal. Piss isn't illegal. Yet those are all things c4s doesn't allow because of the PP.
Obviously age play and animal fucking is illegal. But as far as scat play I know it is taboo but I haven't ever heard of it being a crime.
I didnt know I could do that on photoscape. Cooliio
That said, back on topic.
It's been SLOOOOW for me in sales. I've been uploading pretty consistently. My prices haven't changed. I was banking at the beginning of the month then it nosedived the last two weeks.
Anybody else notice this?
Basically they don't just come out and say that it is illegal but it is considered "obscene" and "obscene" porn is illegal. Scat is considered obscene... google this and you will see many articles of people being busted for selling this type of porn. If you want to produce it, you are taking the risk of being called out for it by the courts or whomever and you can pretty much guarantee that when it is you versus the government or state, the government or state is going to win.
Back to what I originally said, it's not worth it for the amount of money you make now.
This is really a grey area as far as America is concerned. One supreme court justice said that he cannot define obscenity but he "knows it when he sees it." What this means is that basically anything can be considered obscene and like I said when it comes down to the government or state versus you, they are going to win. Pissing on people will more than likely be considered obscene... crushing animals will be considered obscene... shit play will be obscene.... rape play or simulated rape, etc etc.
So really, why the hell would anybody want to risk it? I guess if you live in an area that doesn't give a fuck it would be ok but if you live in a conservative state like Texas or any state that has brought people to court for stuff like this before, it's not worth risking! And there is no way to stay annoymous on the internet... I guarantee you that clips4sale or megaupload or mediafire or mygirlfund or any place that you hosted these types of videos would turn your ass over to the authorities in a heartbeat if they asked. And don't think that not showing your face will protect you either... it's simple for the government to see what you uploaded via your computer and IP address.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obscenity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it
That's all I will say about it though. It's up to everybody to choose their own path... I just wanted to give the girls who didn't know that they could get in trouble for this a heads up.
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I have seen an entire store based on an "illegal" topic (it looked like a store that's easily grossing four figure earnings a month) I'm not going to say what topic since this forum is swarming with site reps ...but yeah, more power to them. And they simple use euphemistic descriptions/keywords and that's it.
First, let me just say that this thread is awesome. I read through the whole thing the other day.
I've been considering opening a Clips4sale store and have actually recorded a couple clips. I'm working on ideas for some new ones because I want to have enough of them ready to open a store.
I have some questions though. Do they send a 1099? I doubt I'll make enough by the end of the year for them to do that, but next year I might. I'm worried about my privacy there. I have no idea how they report and if they would show up on my credit history. I'm applying for some other jobs and some of them run a credit check. I asked c4s customer service some questions in an e-mail but they never got back to me.
I'm also wondering about a paycheck. If I get a paycheck, what's the company name on it? Streamates is a bit obscure. But if the check says clips4sale, that might be an issue. For anyone who gets a check, what does it say on it?
I'm sorry if they questions were already answered in the thread. I did read the whole thing, but it was a few days ago and those questions were on my mind, so I probably didn't just read past it.
Yes they do send 1099s... I am not sure what's the lowest you can make before they won't send you one as I have always made atleast $6,000$ a year with them and I have gotten a 1099 every year for 7 years with them.
The paycheck says Intermark Productions and I am one of the most paranoid people ever and I never even blink cashing it. I get my check every month about 4 days after the pay period ends.
I have not noticed a drop off in sales but that could be because my store is brand new within the past couple 3 weeks. I am doing very well for my first month I'm just worried about how many clips i can post in the same niche without my customers getting bored. Hopefully I can find some new niches as well and make the current ones I'm doing unique.
You have to make at least $500 for a 1099. (At least this is how it was when I lived in NY, I don't know if it varies from state to state or not.)
Once you find a niche that works for you, I doubt your customers will ever get bored. Once you build up a group of loyal followers, they are ALWAYS looking for new content. Just change up your outfit, put the cam in a new position so it gets a new angle..or incorporate another fetish along with the one you're already catering too..
Like bubblegum and pantyhose for example.
As someone that does age play, it isn't illegal. Sexual misconduct with a minor is illegal, a grown adult pretending to be an infant is just comical.
Rule on c4s is that you have to LOOK at least 18 yrs old. Which sucks because it means that I can't just dress up in my loli gear and shoot clips. ;_;
just found out why ... they mailed it to an old address ... WTF?!? I have one address on my license ... my "permanent" address aka my parent's address. But I moved and my new license hasn't come in. I changed my address on C4S and they mailed it to my parent's address!!
Fuckkkk
I do NOT want my parents getting stuff like this ... that's why I put MY address! I double checked and made sure that it was my address on the C4S site and it is. Wtf is wrong with them?!?!? I'm so upset with them ... how can they do that?!?
I'm still waiting for my check for October as well. Apparently my routing # was wrong (although it went it just fine at my other store) so I requested a check. A week and half goes by..no check. I finally email and they act like it was deposited, which it never was, then they tell me they never sent the check out (even though I was informed it was sent) I'm STILL waiting for this check to arrive..the way things are going I can just have it added to whatever I made this month and have it DEPOSITED like it should have been.
Hey guys, just thought I'd ask this here: when you upload new clips, how long do you notice the delay is before they appear in the 'recently updated' list of their respective categories? I find that I can see them on the front page right away, but for some reason not on the category pages.
I want to try this site!
You want to cater to pedophiles? REALLY!
You want to risk eveyone's money by pretending to be underage and get the whole thing shut down & investigated....
It is illegal. It is illegal so that smut cant be peddled to pedophiles. How you can even be okay with something like that upsets my stomach.
How I truly feel about girls like you would get me banned from this site.
When you signed up to C4S you signed a contract stating certain acts that were not allowed. Follow the rules.
If you dont agree with them then build your own site, get you own payment processors & have it. Risk your own site & $$$.
Sam
She's following the rules Sam, she says it sucks because she can't wear her Loli gear
Scat is illegal in the United States and this is something that has been told to me by a well known porn guru. Golden showers on the other hand, are not illegal in the US. Just look at gonzo producer, Max Hardcore. He pees on the female talent in pretty brutal scenes.
I don't think C4S plays by the rules all the time. It says no blood, gore and horror play but I saw some pretty weird stuff on a japanese video. It was pretty much horror porn and then the girl pretends to commit suicide with a sword. That video broke so many rules on c4s so why is the store available on the site?
That makes sense. I remember seeing Kink dot com having a new Golden Shower sub-site. I just asked about scat because I saw so many other girls doing it.
And I think I saw the store you're talking about. I think until they get reported or the C4S staff sifts through the store and finds something against the rules they have so many clips to look through that it must be difficult to screen everything.