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WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
EDIT: Everyone that is angry because I was actually trying to HELP other cammers with this post, you can just fuck off. Streamate has ALWAYS known about this issue, so no, I never exposed anybody. And no, it is NOT my responsibility to make sure you don't get in trouble camming. And where does it say anywhere in the post below that I reported a fellow cam model for split camming? No where! I NEVER reported ANYONE for split camming. It specifically says I mentioned that "other models" were doing it. I will admit I was wrong about the rules because models are STILL doing it after the "news" broke, which is not really news because I am sure they have known about it for a long time anway, otherwise they would not have rules against it in the first place. Now, please, EVERYONE, if you have anger built up inside over this post, try to actually read it through first and get off my snatch and stop making this post into something that it is not. Thank you. <3
EDIT: I have NO problem with split camming. I wanted to split cam in the first place which is why I e-mailed customer support.
EDIT: EVERYONE RELAX! This post was NOT meant to stir up a RIOT! Jeez!
EDIT: KITANA, fuck off this thread please. If anyone is a troll here it's you.
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You will get caught and your account will be suspended and then deactivated it you try it again. I e-mailed them asking them if it was allowed to split cam and told them other models are doing it so I should be able to as well and they replied that they do not allow this and have been recently looking into models that are doing it and suspending the accounts.
They are finding out by searching the models by performer name on other cam sites with the quick search toolbar, using google to search the models names, or just skimming through photos and comparing to there own site's top models.
The reason this is so is because when you split cam you run the chance of going nude on sm by accident when your in a private show on another site, and you are driving less traffic to them as well as working on the site less thus competing with streamate. (Which it already says in the COC that you cannot compete with streamate in any form.)
The only way you can get away with split camming and avoid the risk of getting suspended from streamate is to only split cam on the other two or more sites you are streaming on and stream on streamate seperately.
If you are not on the first page of sm frequently, then you should not worry too much, even though I would not take the risk.
Stop doing it now. It may make you more money now, but it is not worth it in the long run when you are caught and no longer able to perform on streamate, which I am sure is your primary cam site.
Just because you have been split camming on streamate for a long time and have never gotten caught does not mean you are not the next model to get caught. You have been warned. Good luck girls!
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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
CyberAshley
I e-mailed them asking them if it was allowed to split cam and told them other models are doing it so I should be able to as well and they replied that they do not allow this and have been recently looking into models that are doing it and suspending the accounts.
1. Why did you even ask them if you can do it? And point out that other models do it in the process? Look, *every* site has a non-competition clause, usually they mean "hey dont explicitly direct traffic away from the site while you are streaming", they dont mean your stage name (unless its MGF), image, or video feed - splitcamming =/= violation of noncompetition.
2. Do you actually know how they're figuring out if girls are split camming and systematically shutting it down or are you just assuming? Your second paragraph is overly alarmist
3. Most ppl who split cam are careful about shutting down one site over the other - SM selectively enforces the nudity rule.
4. They didnt address models streaming from their own site - which is encouraged and its own form of split camming and in fact earns you more really
5. Im not sure how split-camming drives less traffic to SM? what?
youre basically running wild with the words of a groggy customer service agent. No one in CS will say "oh yea, go ahead and split cam" (see #1). I have even seen 2 cam sites have info in their FAQ addressing splitcamming that was basically "dont be nude, dont ignore your room". SM definitely doesn't care about the latter and selectively cares about the former. Don't be naive - Ive seen some wild shit on SM, them suddenly cracking down on splitcamming of all things is ...
you've said you're new to camming? SM's CS is small, they arent creating accounts on every camsite screencapping models and then going "you lyah". They respond according to their best interests.
For example: on ImLive CS recently said in the forums that customers NEVER record videos and it is impossible. Which is so hilariously incorrect and stupid but they said it to keep models working. CS of any site largely says what is in their best interests... especially if you ask questions you largely shouldn't.
Some of SM's top rowers splitcam on the regular. Unless you're super sloppy about it and end up breaking site rules in the process, it is a non-issue.
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Before they get on this they need to get on the girls who have 2 or more accounts on their own site (yes I can name a few) as well as the girls who are playing looping video.
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Originally Posted by
roast
Some of SM's top rowers splitcam on the regular. Unless you're super sloppy about it: no, just no.
exactly. Infact a girl sitting in number 2 position at one time tonight was split camming with MFC as well as livejasmin, I could hear the tokens tipped and private sounds of livejasmin as well.
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Ah I see you asked in the forums on the 10th if splitcamming is ok. Since no one gave you a definitive answer you asked SM
I don't think they *care* enough to enforce it, but they won't give an official stamp of approval since it means you wont be working 100% for them which they don't want to encourage. If they did enforce it to the extremes of permanent suspension - we wouldve heard a story about it by now.
Basically - it is easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission, don't upset the apple-cart, question authority, that kind of thing.
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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
roast
Ah I see you asked in the forums on the 10th if splitcamming is ok. Since no one gave you a definitive answer you asked SM
I don't think they *care* enough to enforce it, but they won't give an official stamp of approval since it means you wont be working 100% for them which they don't want to encourage. If they did enforce it to the extremes of permanent suspension - we wouldve heard a story about it by now.
Basically - it is easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission, don't upset the apple-cart, question authority, that kind of thing.
There is no such thing as a "permanent suspension". It would either be a suspension (temporary) or deactivation (permanent). LOL! :)
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Everyone, regardless, you should still not do ANYTHING that is against the rules, even if it MAY or SOMETIMES be ok. If you really want to call it a profession, then be professional.
Thank you.
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If they are so against split camming then why in the world did they have an ad that ran for several months on splitcam? Yes an ad down the side banner of one's split cam looking for models to join their website?
Now my split cam seems to advertise MFC, but I swear it was advertising streamate not too long ago.
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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
CyberAshley
Everyone, regardless, you should still not do ANYTHING that is against the rules, even if it MAY or SOMETIMES be ok. If you really want to call it a profession, then be professional.
Thank you.
::) I think by working any other site, ever, you technically break rules...
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Some girls on SM have multiple accounts on SM and leave one open even when the other is in pvt. So yes one is in "free chat" showing everything the guy is unwittingly paying for in private. I simply don't get them. I mean why be so obvious about having two accounts? Why run two accounts (or yes even 3) all at the same time?
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Hunny, noone is retarted or stupid here. Thank you very much for the warning, but seriously it sounds like you are trying to force down your worries on everyone's throat.
There are women here who have been doing this for YEARS so they already know very well how to manage their profession in a professional way.
Just relax, take deep breaths blablabla and have a nice shift in the way YOU wanna do it. We will also do how WE want to do it. It is very simple. :)
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Originally Posted by
CyberAshley
There is no such thing as a "permanent suspension". It would either be a suspension (temporary) or deactivation (permanent). LOL! :)
This is Petty Ashley , we don't laugh at people's grammar or wording on this forum if the point is conveyed in an understandable manner - Many of us do not have English as our first language ! Nevermind Streamates rules, I'm pretty sure it's against the forum rules, to pick on people for their grammar or spelling ...
I understand what you're saying about SM , and no it's not the same on every camsite , some are much more stringent than others .... Which to be fair , I see SM as one of the less stringent amongst them , that's not to say you don't have a very valid point, and those girls who would be destroyed if they lost their SM accounts, should at least keep in mind what you wrote, rather than having a dig about the fact you shared the information .
While I won't be following your advice ( because I don't give a shit if I lose my SM account ) , I actually see nothing wrong with the opening post . This is a place to share information JUST like this , so don't be put off from making such contributions. They are in my opinion , invaluable .
Missy x
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CandaceMoon
::) I think by working any other site, ever, you technically break rules...
This isn't the case Candance- , Some sites allow you to work for them non exclusively ... Ifriends for example , has two levels of % pay out , one for those who are exclusive to ifriends, and another for those who admit or have been caught splitting .
x
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KrystleX
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HangMan ? :P and is that the only 'i '? :D Is it just me ? I have no idea what to put in those gaps !!!
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I wanna put a T please :D
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it doesn't matter people are going to do what they want. however since u have went to their cs and told them who was doing it as well as saying you were interested. you just got yourself and those mentioned a red light so if they was not on it they now have names and hunches of to to look out and check on here and there
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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
CyberAshley
You will get caught and your account will be suspended and then deactivated it you try it again. I e-mailed them asking them if it was allowed to split cam and told them other models are doing it so I should be able to as well and they replied that they do not allow this and have been recently looking into models that are doing it and suspending the accounts.
They are finding out by searching the models by performer name on other cam sites with the quick search toolbar, using google to search the models names, or just skimming through photos and comparing to there own site's top models.
The reason this is so is because when you split cam you run the chance of going nude on sm by accident when your in a private show on another site, and you are driving less traffic to them as well as working on the site less thus competing with streamate. (Which it already says in the COC that you cannot compete with streamate in any form.)
The only way you can get away with split camming and avoid the risk of getting suspended from streamate is to only split cam on the other two or more sites you are streaming on and stream on streamate seperately.
If you are not on the first page of sm frequently, then you should not worry too much, even though I would not take the risk.
Stop doing it now. It may make you more money now, but it is not worth it in the long run when you are caught and no longer able to perform on streamate, which I am sure is your primary cam site.
Just because you have been split camming on streamate for a long time and have never gotten caught does not mean you are not the next model to get caught. You have been warned. Good luck girls!
I know I am supposed to be leaving, and not be here as much & taking it easy right now...
That was a dumbass move. WTF is wrong with you???
DO you realize what you have just DONE? You have outted not only the girls here, but every OTHER girl that does this. Classic Newbie MISTAKE. Do you know how FAR you could've possibly put back these girls??
You just fucked up, HUGE. How are you going to come back here, warn US? When we KNEW it was against the rules to begin with?!?! That's why the majority of us keep it on the DL that we do this.
Listen - I don't know how long you have been camming....but the excuse "other girls do it - why can't I?" applies to individual basis only. If you have been camming a long time and just found this place and forum - SHAME ON YOU!! If you are a newbie - then use the SEARCH FUNCTION before you do stuff like this. Do you think those posts at the TOP of Camming Connection are just there for good times? This is why people mess up - because they don't take the time to thoroughly investigate and research what it is you are doing. Let this be a classic lesson to USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION!
This is classic indicator of not waiting for a response or using the search function or asking a vet, who all 3 would have given the answers....and figured it out.
Cam Girl Rule UNO - NEVER, EVER, rat out another cam girl. NEVER, EVER disclose what she is doing to the bosses!!!!!!
EVERY SINGLE CAM GIRL WORKS THEIR SHIT DIFFERENTLY! Everyone does different things and on different sites...
You just messed with probably 75% of girls income on this site by OUTING that. Now, because of that, SM is watching....when they SAY they weren't watching before....I doubt they were because no one gets busted doing it these days -WHY? BECAUSE NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT!!
JESUS! I don't even work on SM and this has me effin' heated!!
WTF is wrong with you?? You need to do more research before you open your mouth man!
Stop trying to put this out like it's a big deal. All of us have vetted enough to know what's allowed and what's not...
100% will still push to get away with it - doesn't help that you just threw SM a bone and said, LOOK WHAT EVERYONE ELSE DOES!
and don't sit here and say - those of us doing it for a long time are at risk of getting caught. I think because we are "VETS" we have the right to say we can get away with it and we will!!
ARGGGHHH!!1 #$%^! damnit...this is retarded. WTF WOULD you do this? If it's not in the rules, DO NOT ASK ABOUT IT!!!
I just busted a vein.
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LMao oh please if yall dont see hater/troll in this poster!
If SM was really going to do that then please do ......all those studios are instantly gone!!! one day
(they even have splitcam scene shots lmao)
then they would lose some thing like half of the regular girls lmao
Then what do you have ? a dead site lmao!
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Star - get me the excedrin and a bottle of fucking wine.
Don't forget the scripts and the other girls who :do it:.
just don't look at their pictures for the SPLIT CAM SHOTS!
EXACTLY - DEAD SITE!!
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MzStar
LMao oh please if yall dont see hater/troll in this poster!
If SM was really going to do that then please do ......all those studios are instantly gone!!! one day
(they even have splitcam scene shots lmao)
then they would lose some thing like half of the regular girls lmao
Then what do you have ? a dead site lmao!
This!!
I may be wrong but my Trolldar is off the charts ;)
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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
MzStar
LMao oh please if yall dont see hater/troll in this poster!
If SM was really going to do that then please do ......all those studios are instantly gone!!! one day
(they even have splitcam scene shots lmao)
then they would lose some thing like half of the regular girls lmao
Then what do you have ? a dead site lmao!
I don't see a hater...I am so lost...
who's a troll?
I didn't do it - I am still in my bat cave.
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LMAO, Kitana! Giving you a :highfive: and a :hug:
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A lot of the models on the first page splitcam. If anything, they will selectively impose this rule just like they do the nudity and free shows rule.
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The OP , lmao
Kitana stop playin with me!lmao