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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
TheBrownFox
LMAO, Kitana! Giving you a :highfive: and a :hug:
That is SO irritating.
How long have we been accustomed to this stuff?
How many THREADS are there about SM and split cam?
Is it common sense to not turn on your own group of people?
You might as well put a sign on your door that says....
I am playing with my snatch at the moment. Please come back later or go to "insert site" that I am on you can watch for nothing here.
HOW freakin' hard is it to be your own advocate, to read up and study your shit...apparently, it must be REALLY hard.
The thing is - this has BAD backlash with it. SM is gonna get on their soap box, then what about MFC and everyone else? We all now MFC doesn't care - but stranger things HAVE happened. What, are we gonna troll off to MFC and ask them if we can splitcam? NO. NO. NO.
I don't give a shit what anyone does - but don't sell out your sisters in the cam world. That's selling everyone out. It takes ONE person to set a fire like that. So, now that everyone is having a hard enough time making $, it's going to get worse now that we have to add more stress of getting busted.
We already have ENOUGH of a hard time - because let's get real - if this business was FAIR and we couldn't do these things - we would ALL HAVE REAL JOBS and camming wouldn't exist for us.
Just stop. Turn the cam off. Stop. Read. Study. Apply. REPEAT.
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This is just so silly. If you MUST report a fellow cam model for something, report models who do fucked-up shit, like performing sex acts and doing drugs on cam with their kids right there beside them ON CAM. THAT is something you should be reporting.
Telling on a model who's just splitcamming is very silly, in my opinion. Models do this to increase their earnings. You can't be mad at them for that, so why are you fucking with their money?
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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
MzStar
The OP , lmao
Kitana stop playin with me!lmao
Trolls, trolls, trolls, take a bath, trolls.
Fix you hair, clean your ass. Troll some more.
TROLLS! TROLLS TROLLS!
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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
TheBrownFox
This is just so silly. If you MUST report a fellow cam model for something, report models who do fucked-up shit, like performing sex acts and doing drugs on cam with their kids right there beside them ON CAM. THAT is something you should be reporting.
Telling on a model who's just splitcamming is very silly, in my opinion. Models do this to increase their earnings. You can't be mad at them for that, so why are you fucking with their money?
That's my point and the bottom line.
By contacting Sm and saying - everyone else does it so I want to too!
Puts SM on high alert and makes em look for people who use SplitCam...
Therefore, affecting everyone's money train at the end of the month.
She must not have babies to worry about. Because that extra diaper or 5 bucks in gas or for a pack of smokes - matters.
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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
OJenni!
Before they get on this they need to get on the girls who have 2 or more accounts on their own site (yes I can name a few) as well as the girls who are playing looping video.
Splitcam - easier target.
2 accounts make them more money.
I have multiple accounts on MFC when I was there....
I don't think they care as much for that when accounts are in house versus showing your snatch to SM customers and MFC customers at the same time...
Drives away from their money train.
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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
CyberAshley
There is no such thing as a "permanent suspension". It would either be a suspension (temporary) or deactivation (permanent). LOL! :)
and there is such thing as permanent suspension.
It's called an IP-Ban.
They will ban IP after IP to keep you away,,,
Even more so, if they wanna get technical - they can ban all of your computers Hardware & MAC addresses specific to each machine you use. So, Mom's computer is out TOO.
Believe me - there is such a thing. Many women have paid the price for things such as stupid as this.
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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
thebrownfox
hahahahahaaaaa!!!!!
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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
CyberAshley
Everyone, regardless, you should still not do ANYTHING that is against the rules, even if it MAY or SOMETIMES be ok. If you really want to call it a profession, then be professional.
Thank you.
ARE you fucking serious?
Listen, let me enlighten you about something.
Camming is 75% BULLSHIT and 25% breaking the rules. Both of which go hand in hand.
Every day - we try to figure out who, what, where, how and why we CAN get more money...whether it be by exploiting the rules or bending them with some loophole. Whatever works out to OUR advantage, you best well BELIEVE these girls are gonna do it. Why? BECAUSE IT MAKES US MORE MONEY.
To hell with risk, the whole industry is a risk - but when it comes down to our money - you bet your sweet ass we will do ANYTHING within reason and going through a loophole to get it.
Spare me the damn - everyone should follow the rules bullshit and lecture. It's not worth it because every VET in this forum will tell you that the majority of the rules don't mean dick. However, some of the rules that DO mean shit, ARE to be followed. Even the ones that are un-written.
So before you come here, being a newbie, giving advice on what we should or should not be doing, you need to use the search function and figure out WTF it is you are actually do, because you have brought more harm than just being a contributing member here right now.
You outted the majority to SM - and I don't care who wants to come and say, give her a break. NO - one person starts a fire, the rest pay the price of the stupidity by losing out.
You have ZERO business and ZERO right to lecture anyone about the rights and wrong of THIS business when you couldn't even take the time to do a search but instead ran to the boss and said HEY!! Guess what? Look at me!!
Most of us make so much is because we are popular and inconspicious at the same time....
So please, PUT the big girl pants on and learn to play in the ring with the bad girls. NONE of us are good.
Save it - before your feelings get hurt.
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Okay ....here is what happened
She emailed support asking about that bullshit
that bullshit can be used to record screens!
shit set off CS and they sent her back the hate mail
they dont know she is a camgirl they thing she is telling them she is going to record screens....she doesnt realize how stupid CS can be ....now she is spilling the beans!!!
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She basically, just let open the can of worms for everyone to be caught when chicks use that to pay their bills by working both sites.
If it's gonna make me more money - I'm breaking the rules. Fuck it.
IDGAF cam girl or not, don't mess with my damn money.
She just told them to be on the lookout for something that screws all of us if people start getting caught.
People record screens as it is...it just made it worse. I'd rather have someone record me and I'll make money doing it versus someone record me and I ain't making dick.
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told them other models are doing it so I should be able to as well
Stop doing it now. It may make you more money now, but it is not worth it in the long run when you are caught and no longer able to perform on streamate, which I am sure is your primary cam site.
If you really want to call it a profession, then be professional. Thank you.
WTF.
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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
KitanaBlades
IDGAF cam girl or not, don't mess with my damn money.
My thoughts exactly!
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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
KitanaBlades
That's my point and the bottom line.
By contacting Sm and saying - everyone else does it so I want to too!
Puts SM on high alert and makes em look for people who use SplitCam...
Therefore, affecting everyone's money train at the end of the month.
She must not have babies to worry about. Because that extra diaper or 5 bucks in gas or for a pack of smokes - matters.
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Originally Posted by
Lusty Laken
told them other models are doing it so I should be able to as well
Using your quotes Lusty....
YES - WTF!
Stop doing it now. It may make you more money now, but it is not worth it in the long run when you are caught and no longer able to perform on streamate, which I am sure is your primary cam site.
If you really want to call it a profession, then be professional. Thank you.
WTF.
IT IS A PROFESSION because WE MAKE MONEY OFF IT.
Do you know how many women paved the way for us to be allowed to DO things like Split Cam? Do you have any idea how much balls that took?
Don't you DARE sit there, and lecture any of us on the basis of what a PROFESSION is. You just got INTO this business and YOU will find out that being professional isn't how you make your damn money.
It's a profession to US because many of us have worked 5 years or more in this business - we KNOW the ins and outs - we KNOW what we gotta do....
We don't need some noob sitting here trying to lecture us on what's right and wrong - frankly you have no basis to do either. Don't sit here and act like because you have been on cam for FIVE fucking minutes you know anything about this business.
It's obvious to me that you do NOT after this classic fuck up.
So if you wanna be successful in this business, I suggest you read and do as your told. Otherwise, you can keep looking like Boo-Boo the fool at your own expense because you are doing a FINE job of that.
YOU HAVE ZERO CLUE about the camming business. PERIOD.
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Oh for fucks sake - why all the drama and hating ... She is far from the first person to tell SM this - !!!! Do you guys not realize how many haters complain to SM every day !!!!
There's no metaphorical cat been let out of any bag ! Christ , you all talk like she's betrayed a secret from the Secret service ! She's told them something they knew anyway !!!
Really everyone ...Move the fuck on and forget about it . She's put her info out there , it's maybe not the smartest thing she did , but all the 'troll' accusations, and pictures, are about as worthy as trolling in it's self ....
Let's just leave this thread , what's done is done, and this abuse is really pointless.
Missy
I'm sure thousands of guys and girls write every day to streamate and MFC and ask such questions like 'everyone else goes nude in free - is it allowed? or 'other girls split cam , can I ' , or ... 'I saw a model with her cat in the background, does this mean it's allowed ? ' ........Who cares ! Just get on with your own thing , it's not exactly grassing , just slack in the way the question is asked ... and remember protecting your authenticity and money , is NOT her responsibility ! We can all ask what we like, and if y'all have your backs covered, there's nothing to worry about. The end :-)
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and people can jump my ass about getting on her for doing it IF they want to....
but, if anyone else's money was messed with like this in SOME other fashion...
I would have a boatload of supporters so...no one mention the I feel bad for her crap because she's new. She has the same capabilities as the rest of us to find shit out and handle things the right way.
She could have easily read through some threads, did her homework and figured this shit out on her own WITHOUT exposing the rest of us to NOT possibly getting paid and being caught.
No - I don't work on SM - but I know how hard it is out there...and I'll be damned if this will go un-noticed.
It's bullshit at it's finest.
Am I angry - you bet your ass I am - because this could have effects on EVERYONE that uses it and works on SM.
I don't think many are seeing the bigger picture of when stuff DOES start to happen - how bad it could possibly get. Sure, hasn't happened yet - but give it time. I'm telling you - this is NOT a good thing.
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Re: WARNING: Do Not Splitcam on Streamate!
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Originally Posted by
ukmissy
Oh for fucks sake - why all the drama and hating ... She is far from the first person to tell SM this - !!!! Do you guys not realize how many haters complain to SM every day !!!!
There's no metaphorical cat been let out of any bag ! Christ , you all talk like she's betrayed a secret from the Secret service ! She's told them something they knew anyway !!!
Really everyone ...Move the fuck on and forget about it . She's put her info out there , it's maybe not the smartest thing she did , but all the 'troll' accusations, and pictures, are about as worthy as trolling in it's self ....
Let's just leave this thread , what's done is done, and this abuse is really pointless.
Missy
Ok Missy...LOL my point exactly...
WHY should we move on? So when people get busted and DO NOT get paid because someone started a fire that has SM on the lookout now? When before hand, it was kept under wraps? and it was kinda cool girls could SPLIT cam and NOT get caught?
Sure, I don't think anyone gets the point of HOW detrimental this could be. It doesn't matter how shitty a CS department is - it matters when YOU aren't making money because you got CAUGHT because someone said something...
When you don't make money because of ONE person's fuck up - you will be back here bitching about it.
As far as vet cam girls go - she did betray a secret. 100& Absofuckinlutely...
WHO RUNS to SM and says - CAN I USE SPLIT CAM? WHO does that? What girl in her RIGHT mind would go do that? Common sense says it. THE WHOLE FORUM is based on secrecy and helping girls out in such a way....to manipulate the rules, better understand rules, make MORE money, etc.
It is a 100% a bad thing when someone in YOUR industry makes it 10x harder for everyone else. As I said, it takes ONE PERSON to start the fire. It's gonna take 100 others to put the fire out.
What happens when someone gets caught and gets an e-mail stating the crap that SHE did? IDGAF about the other rules...this one was a betrayal to the industry we bust our asses in EVERY SINGLE day to survive in.
If you want to say, oh it's not a bad thing - but when girls start getting caught because of the ramifications of this, or their money starts to dwindle down because someone opened their mouth....
I can't wait to see people hi-tail back to this thread and flip the hell out for it.
If you want to defend someone bothering your money funnel, go right on ahead. You don't have anyone else to blame but you when you can't pay your bills.
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Well, honestly I really think all sites are aware of hosts splitcamming. Nearly all of the top hosts do and I think it's smart business sense if you have the attention span and are good at multitasking. If you cut out all the hosts who are splitcamming the guys would have nobody to watch, but it pays to be smart about it and not point out to the site where you are working what you are doing.
If you do it professionally it should not be a problem. When splitting your stream, be sure you don't open more sites than you can handle, be sure you invest in quality equipment and buy the best and fastest net you can afford with a huge upload speed - got to have a big pipeline, or you are really wasting your time. There is no reason anyone should be caught showing nudity in free chat since it takes one click to shut down your room.
If you are bringing in money to the site, providing excellent quality shows and keeping the majority of your customers happy, not breaking the site's rules (and yes, top hosts DO get 3 day bans and longer - I've seen it happen so don't think you can get away with below-belt nudity/insertion in free chat forever) they are not going to ban you.
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LOL. Really? We are gonna go back to that?
Again.
IDGAF cam girl or not, don't mess with my damn money or anyone else's for that matter.
Aggressive or not - someone has to stand up and say what it is - the vet cam girls that busted there asses for the rest of us to have this easy....
If you want to hold that opinion - and think people should get a free pass to things that are detrimental the rest of our careers - more power to you.
You can sit there and say, OH it won't happen. That's just what SM says - we are too smart to get caught. But you didn't have the limelight on you before....
You do now because of ONE person.
So if you don't think it's not going to be detrimental the people that count on Split Cam to survive, hustle and get it done - dead wrong.
This isn't rocket science and if you want to defend someone that basically handed over the SECRETS to SM - ok then...
To be honest - don't be surprised if it takes someone a second to google and this forum pops up. That's the point I'm making. They could be reading every ounce of information we PUT here....and it's things like running to SM - puts us out there so we CANNOT do the exploits we use everyday. JS.
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Kitana , I can assure you , SM get these kind of questions asked everyday . When you said she's let the cat out of the bag --- really ?!
She hasn't told them anything they don't already know, she hasn't messed with anyones money , I work On SM and her comments certainly didn't bother me ... The cam world stretches much further than this forum !
No idea why everyone is so upset. She's asked something which 1000's of models ask camsites every day !!!
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I would not think twice about asking such a question like 'I've seen girls doing watersports , is it allowed ? ' .... Personally I couldn't give a fuck about anyone else, this is business NOT a sisterhood ..... If the girls get caught as a result of my innocent question, TOUGH , I won't ever go out of my way to affect a girls earnings or grass, I've been brought up not to do that , but I've also been brought up to believe that in business, Me and MY money are number one, and if my questions, contracts or methods affect others .... I'm sorry girls, but .. That's just tough !
If cam site writes back and tells me pissing aint allowed ... I'm not sorry to the girls that i've accidentally 'dropped in it' ..Why would I care less?!
Everyone take care of their own business, it's not about her being new to the forum , who cares about that , it's about the fact I really don't believe she's done anything that isn't going on literally every minute. Lord my neighbor knows I work several sites, my mother in law knows.... y'all reckon streamate doesn't know ???? COME ON !!!