Cant decide if I was in the wrong or the customer was....
last night i was doing requests/ flashes for 6 tips
one guy gave 20 and i gave him a little flash, etc and then he started mouthing off about how he got jipped "THAT for 20 tips?!" another guy chimes in "you got jipped bro"
so i looked and i was like ohh im sorry i didnt realize you gave 20 tips, and I go to put on another little show for him but hes still mouthing off
i was like well if you keep being rude then....hes like im not being rude i got jipped! and i was like ok...and sign out
I cant help but wonder if I was in the wrong and hes gonna come harass me in my room tonight lol
sn: Last night I dreamed that my family found out I cam from my little brother seeing me on a site lol
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20 tokens or 20 tips ? (mfc?)
For 20 tokens I would have smiled nicely only :)
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What site was this on? If it was streamate, you aren't even allowed to show below the belt nudity, so what did he even expect you to do in free chat?
I only show in private on there. Seems like it would kill ratings.
Some of those guys would never be happy no matter what you did though. On MFC some models get 20 bucks just to smile so fuck them! If they want specific requests I think they should just pay for a private and shut up.
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it was on naked.
and EXACTLY laurie! 20 tips costs him $20 and is $10 for me. nakeds prvts are $4.99 a minute. He couldve gotten a hell of a lot more if his dumb ass took me prvt lol
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He hit the "tip" button, not you. He didn't get screwed unless he asked you for a long flash first and you agreed. What we have to put up with lol... don't worry about him you are fine.
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msmochaxx
it was on naked.
Ah ok. I havent been on Naked yet but its definitely on my list of sites to look at. :)
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Originally Posted by
msmochaxx
last night i was doing requests/ flashes for 6 tips
one guy gave 20 and i gave him a little flash, etc and then he started mouthing off about how he got jipped "THAT for 20 tips?!" another guy chimes in "you got jipped bro"
so i looked and i was like ohh im sorry i didnt realize you gave 20 tips, and I go to put on another little show for him but hes still mouthing off
i was like well if you keep being rude then....hes like im not being rude i got jipped! and i was like ok...and sign out
I cant help but wonder if I was in the wrong and hes gonna come harass me in my room tonight lol
sn: Last night I dreamed that my family found out I cam from my little brother seeing me on a site lol
Don't worry about him, he was a freeloader. If he wasn't one, he would have taken you to private for a least a couple minutes.
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PrincessJenny
Ah ok. I havent been on Naked yet but its definitely on my list of sites to look at. :)
I havent been doing too good this week but our share of prvts are $2 a minute and tips .50
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If you offer a flash for 6 and someone gives 20 then I guess a better flash is called for, which you did once you realised how much he'd tipped.
I miss things all the time because if I'm wiggling about I can't always see the screen...my regulars know this and when they see I'm looking at the chat again they say things like: hold on guys, let her catch up!
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the customer is always wrong!!!
^ in this industry at least...they are all cheap bastards with entitlement issues
he should be happy he got anything... he TIPPED you. its not your fault he assumed 20 dollars would get him more. and then he wanted to be a douche about it...i would of banned him and the other one who wanted to chime in.
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Tips are a perk. I dont know Naked's tipping culture but unless there is a MUTUALLY prearranged agreement - its just a way of thanking you for being hot or charismatic or interesting (or all of the above). Guys tip for that purpose all the time
To echo everyone else: He was in the wrong.
Mostly because he totally failed to communicate and then promptly overreacted - you seem like a friendlier performer & probably someone you could be like "That was nice but since flashes are $6, I decided to give $20 because I was hoping for a little more. Can you give me [x] please?" and you'd receive it well. Which is what any reasonable tipper would do. Or they wouldve done it before tipping. Or it wouldve been a "you're purty" tip. But instead he dropped $20 and promptly threw a hissyfit that you didnt do some unnamed act and dragged the rest of the (freeloading) room with him.
You tried to guess what he wanted by being accomodating and he still didnt say what it he was looking for.
His loss.
Consider it a "I have no communication skills because I think camgirls are robots because I dont get out much" tax.
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Usually in this situation, it is all the freeloaders who are agree'ing & saying he got jipped. This crap happens to all of us and you certainly aren't in the wrong. Try not to let it bother you and I'm sure you'll log on tonight and it'll be like nothing happened.
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If you posted 6 for a flash then that's what they get. It's not like you had 6 for a flash but if you give me more you'll get my ass, my cootch and all the filth my mouth can speak lol you didnt do anything wrong. If he comes in your room then hit that awesome lil' button that says BAN!!!
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He was absolutely in the wrong!!! In general, tips are just that - TIPS. A little something extra that should be given with NO expectation at all. If you are doing tips for flashes, then he tips, you flash. More money doesn't automatically mean more time flashing, or that he should get to see more, unless he has specifically requested it.
Funnily enough, on this topic, I think I'm going to stop doing the tips for flashes thing. I had been doing it a lot on SM to try and get extra cash coming in and get guys used to tipping, but I've noticed that the guys who want that will ask if you do it, and the guys that actually just want to tip don't care if you flash or not. I even had one guy ask what my room topic "meant". The topic was "Flash for Gold! Min $5"....how is that unclear? LOL
But yes, you are in the right, and if he comes back again....BAN
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Originally Posted by
roast
Tips are a perk. I dont know Naked's tipping culture but unless there is a MUTUALLY prearranged agreement - its just a way of thanking you for being hot or charismatic or interesting (or all of the above). Guys tip for that purpose all the time
To echo everyone else: He was in the wrong.
Mostly because he totally failed to communicate and then promptly overreacted - you seem like a friendlier performer & probably someone you could be like "That was nice but since flashes are $6, I decided to give $20 because I was hoping for a little more. Can you give me [x] please?" and you'd receive it well. Which is what any reasonable tipper would do. Or they wouldve done it before tipping. Or it wouldve been a "you're purty" tip. But instead he dropped $20 and promptly threw a hissyfit that you didnt do some unnamed act and dragged the rest of the (freeloading) room with him.
You tried to guess what he wanted by being accomodating and he still didnt say what it he was looking for.
His loss.
Consider it a "I have no communication skills because I think camgirls are robots because I dont get out much" tax.
Totally agreed! This happens to all of us. This dude probably goes from room to room and has apparently made a hobby out of being a cyber bully. I am sure he has conned alot of girls out of free shows and doing much more then his $20 is worth using these tactics. Don't fall for it.
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Just a bunch of assholes trying to fuck with your head. Don't even give it any thought. They are always in the wrong, and you are always in the right. I hate these idiots that come in and try to tell me I'm doing stuff wrong, when they have no fuckin' clue what they're talking about. Or they try to judge you, and your body and say you're not worth anything. Once anyone says anything about something "not worth it" or "man what a rip off" you know they're just pieces of shit that aren't worth your time.
Ban ban ban!
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I honestly think it's a GOOD thing that you actually questioned your part in the interaction...you're just starting out as a cam-chica, so if you were already completely jaded I'd suspect you'd be headed for burn-out hella soon. Also, I think it's really healthy for us to consider our part in any interaction, good or bad, in order to best approach ( encourage OR avoid) it the next time it occurs.
That said, one of the most important things I think I've learned thus far is that ANY guy who tries to fuck with our heads or our hustle needs to be banned. As do all who jump on the asshole bandwagon.
Look at it this way...he gave you a nice tip, and then proceeded to completely negate it's effect by participating in turning your room atmosphere toxic.
Every guy we deal with on cam, paying or not, needs to treat us with respect. Our rooms are OUR workplaces, and anyone who behaves in a manner unconducive to you making as much $$$$ as you can is no longer an asset to you. In your shoes, I woulda done exactly what you did, which was try to acknowledge his tip with a lil more of a show. He chose to turn things sour, not you. At that point though, I woulda banned his ass along with everyone else who jumped in a negative manner, and kept going. Never let fucktards chase you offline. They don't deserve to affect you like that.
At the risk of being totally redundant in echoing the words of everyone else who's posted in this thread, you ethically owe your customers NOTHING but what you say you intend to do in return for tips. Which is exactly what you did:)
As an aside, I'm really glad camming is working out for you...I like your spirit (and your siggy) :)
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I would have done what I said I would have done for the "6". Anything after would have been a gift. I would have pretended I never heard his insults and banned him...and kept right the fuck on pushing.
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Thats why I dont like that tip for so and so crap anymore...it turns us into circus acts.
Hmmm...if she does this for $6 let me see what she would do for $20- That do something strange for change mentality.
I couldnt work for tips anyway in my personal opinon. reminds me of the guy playing a guitar ( in a subway) playing his REALLY GOOD music...and people tip only if they want to -while viewing him as a bum ( in our case a whore)....... not my cup of tea.
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The customer is always wrong.....except in private. Then there's some wiggle room.
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He's as wrong as two left shoes. Flash for 6 was the deal the rest was a tip. If he wanted more for his money he should have ASKED FIRST. If he gives you any more static ban him.