Re: niteflirt and camming
Yes you can use NF to cam. You use Skype, yahoo or whatever messenger you want. You must be on the phone with the guy while on cam. Some girls say this is awkward. I just use my cell either put them on speaker or use the bluetooth. You are not allowed to just take a payment for cam only. The reason for this is that is there is an issue NF can only verify the show happened by seeing that you were on the phone.
Most girls set their lines that high because they want to show up but don't want to take calls, they want their vids etc to sell. I put my lines on that high when I am sleeping or busy. Have guys called me at that rate, yes it happens occasionally, but more likely they just buy something else or listen to a recording of mine. When I wake up and am ready to take calls I drop back to the regular rate.
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so the higher the rate the higher you show up on the site?
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No. The way your ranking is determined is by something called "LVS" - it's a system that factors in how many calls you get, how many paid mails you sell, how many people look at your listing, etc. Nobody knows exactly what's factored in and how it's determined, but many have speculated. The rankings reset every morning, but you never have a "set" ranking number. If a higher ranking girl logs on to take calls, then you get bumped down one spot.
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msmochaxx
so the higher the rate the higher you show up on the site?
No site placement is determined by LVS (listing value score). A number of factors go into LVS: ratings, repeat calls, click to call conversion, amount of sales, dollars per sale. Being constantly available betters your chances of doing well on those things. They exact formula for LVS has not been disclosed, but from my personal experience how much you make plays a big part. Now if I keep my line on 24/7 and I am selling pics and vids in my sleep that listing is still making money.
Oh and a lot of NF success is driving your own traffic. Now I do have a character that I don't drive traffic for and she does ok because she is in a small niche and people look for her and find her with no real effort from me. By no means is she banking, but be puts some extra dollars in my account.
Re: niteflirt and camming
nobody really charges $50 a mintue for a call.
When I put up $50 it is to reserve my spot on the lsitng, instead of logging on and getting thrown in the back.
I make people purcahse my ID as well, because I dont want just anybody calling me. I want people who have money to spend to call me... not a man that gets off in 3 minutes because he has $9.
But as far as getting higher on the list is up to you in what you do to get to the top. ;) Yeah its a secret, but if you work their long enough you start to catch on ... good luck!
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I'd be interested to know how many girls work on NF with JUST phone, no cam, and actually make money. I signed up as part of my split-camming experiments, and just signed up for phone. I've been logged on for nearly four days now. Not one call. Huh.
I'm thinking that if you just do calls, you need a serious niche or a way to direct traffic to it. Thus far, I am HUGELY unimpressed.
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ManyRoses
I'd be interested to know how many girls work on NF with JUST phone, no cam, and actually make money. I signed up as part of my split-camming experiments, and just signed up for phone. I've been logged on for nearly four days now. Not one call. Huh.
I'm thinking that if you just do calls, you need a serious niche or a way to direct traffic to it. Thus far, I am HUGELY unimpressed.
Niteflirt's traffic died a horrible death when AT&T pulled out and took their software with them.
It really doesn't matter if you are doing phone or doing cam - if you don't drive your own traffic you likely won't get much business. Most of my money there comes from customers prior to the big crash. I definitely don't depend on it the way I used to. It's just a little extra now and then.
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Honestly it's all if you are willing to drive your own traffic. I have phone only characters I started after the crash. I marketed them. I do fine. It's a different world from camming.
They don't advertise much and you are competing against lots of girls who have been at this for a long time and have an established customer base and hustle. You also have people like me with multiple accounts.
You really do need to drive traffic to start. Once my placement was better I have been able to ride some site traffic. I researched my niche thoroughly before I started. I have accounts that I have let languish and a few I really put effort into. NF is primarily PSO and that's really a different approach to marketing etc than camming only. I have a cam account on NF and I barely turn it on I get more calls on my phone only lines.
I think it's like MFC it really works for some people and for others it's just not their cup of tea.
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hidarlin
Honestly it's all if you are willing to drive your own traffic.
You really do need to drive traffic to start. Once my placement was better I have been able to ride some site traffic.
This is why I am keeping my account with them. It may be utterly useless to me right now, but when I start to work on my own site and building my brand, I think it will come into its own for me. But starting out right now without a website and ways to drive traffic? Nah...not work the 20mins it'll take you to sign up. (my opinion, obviously...I know that there will be some who disagree with me entirely!)
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ManyRoses
I'd be interested to know how many girls work on NF with JUST phone, no cam, and actually make money. I signed up as part of my split-camming experiments, and just signed up for phone. I've been logged on for nearly four days now. Not one call. Huh.
I'm thinking that if you just do calls, you need a serious niche or a way to direct traffic to it. Thus far, I am HUGELY unimpressed.
I have a main niche account and 90% of my $ comes from phone (not counting paid mails, which I barely ever do). I make a decent amount just from that one character though it took a lot of trial and error to see what works and what doesn't. Aaaaand as I'm typing this, my phone is ringing with a new customer on the line. Booya.
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Originally Posted by
ManyRoses
I'd be interested to know how many girls work on NF with JUST phone, no cam, and actually make money. I signed up as part of my split-camming experiments, and just signed up for phone. I've been logged on for nearly four days now. Not one call. Huh.
I'm thinking that if you just do calls, you need a serious niche or a way to direct traffic to it. Thus far, I am HUGELY unimpressed.
ManyRoses,
The reason why you are not getting calls is because you are not showing up in the listings. In order to show up as listed on the site you need to generate at least 1 call with feedback. You *can* do this yourself or have a friend/other flirt do this for you. Basically you would need to call yourself with a customer account or have another flirt call you.
What I did is I lowered my rate to .47 just for the other person who was helping me to call. She hung up after 2 minutes, left feedback and viola I was started...I raised my rate back to $2/minute right after that. No one saw the .47/minute as I was not even listed on the site at that time.
Despite the glitches and everything I still pull $700-$1,000 a month there easily.
In fact since I like to avoid "freechat" as much as possible I log in there and to AW more often these days as I am trying to transition myself off of streamate.
I don't like how things are going traffic wise over on SM and the fact that obviously pimped girls from Russia and The Philippines are getting priority placement over me. MFC is kinda hit or miss for me and I hate all the freeloaders. In other words I find "freechat" to be personally and physically draining at times for little appreciation from the site owners (do they really have to give generic auto responses to my very valid concerns?) and pay from the customers.
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I had signed up w/them, but never used it..
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hi guys, i tried to sign up to nightflirt and haveing trouble when they ask for my phone number... is it just for american girls? do any english girls use this site? thanks x
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^^ same here. We must not be allowed. :-(