Re: Selective Camgirl site?
youre talking about 3 different things - exclusivity for camgirls based on a cam owner's arbitrary & subjective judgment, sites that actually enforce rules, and high quality customers
1. High quality customers who pay all the time - uhhh
2. Sites that actually enforce rules - uhhh. well, most sites selectively enforce certain rules
3. Hot chix - its in the eye of the beholder but the following sites market themselves as being selective: websfinest, onhercam, camwithher, playboylive, most adult dating site scams, scoreslive(I believe), and terrible startups that will probably fail
If you want a site that has all of these things plus actually has reliable traffic and a solid unblemished reputation among performers AND customers - uhhh
Dude it is porn - not a highend club. You can be missing your face and still make money. The unwashed unbrushed flabby masses are still earning since they log in... which is half the battle that most ppl lose. Even the hot ones. limiting yourself to a single market is an immediate traffic and earnings killer. Just be a big fish in a very very big pond. Getting hung up on looks of your competition is silly.
Your focus should be sites that enforce rules and/or don't have mandatory freechat if you want to deter freeloaders. Most sites that have the biggest slam of traffic have mandatory free chat & unevenly regulate it (SM, MFC, LJ) & others are following suit (Naked, Sexier, etc) so if your finances can be patient and hold out for the lower traffic sites to build a fanbase that'll save you some headache.
Re: Selective Camgirl site?
I guess what Im trying to say is that I want a site where the guys are more serious about it. I love Mygirlfund.com because you got ppaid to reply to messages, and if a guy is willing to pay to send a message theyre probably more willing to pay for cam shows.
Of course not every guy is going to pay. And I dont mind that much if theres trashy girls I just think that there would be more serious guys if they didnt have that in their face all the time. (but idk im not a guy)
Just an idea for a site but guess it doesnt work out too well :/
But thanks! :)
Re: Selective Camgirl site?
ChatGF is selective for sure,
Girls = hand picked. this is questionable by girls looking older then 30 or fat or otherwise simply skipped even if they appear cute to most, this is the side effect of selection: someone is declined.
Customers = there is no free chat, and minimum appointment duration is 20 minutes. Can't blah blah for free, can't take a 3 minute private and close. We have big fishes but is not so many and this is why we not take 10000 models too.
Payout is 55% (was 60% for more than a year but there was no money left for advertising then girls complaining of no traffic.. so we taxed 5% for traffic and now they complain wanted 60% back LOL).
Who bring the own customer gets 82% from him + $50 one time at signup, so it is competitive as indie site too.
More info and join page here:
http://chatgf.ru/?g=no
(note: we are not russians, the company is dutch - just most our models is russians so we are very russian language friendly).
Re: Selective Camgirl site?
Was waiting for a site to leap in with the promo - Im getting so bitter with the spam
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ChatGF
ChatGF is selective for sure,
Girls = hand picked. this is questionable by girls looking older then 30 or fat or otherwise simply skipped even if they appear cute to most, this is the side effect of selection: someone is declined.
I fell for it but Ill say it anyway:I'm under 30 and not fat (yet). It does not matter. Women who are bigger and/or older than me outrank me on every site I'm on. The first few strips on SM, Cams, Imlive and a few other sites almost always has at least ~5 women over 30 (often over 40) and a handful of larger women. You've X-ed out their earning potential just "because".... it isn't bc of bandwidth since I see many inactive profiles. A young dollar is the same dollar as a MILF dollar. Slap 'em together and you have $2 instead of just $1. Suddenly your profits have gone up 100%! But, nah. I also sell content of different looks and ages - and what you expect to sell the best (judging by your site), just doesn't all the time.
Eggs in one basket syndrome in the gambling arena of porn is suicide
This practice is a dumb strategy. Most overly selective sites tend to only have slender young tattoo-less non-TS white women - which is so detailed, stupid and overly niche.... which seems to be mostly the case for your site. This isn't StripClubJunkie or Customer Conversations - it is camming. I'm not talking about diversity being a nice or a good thing in a ~*we are the world*~ sense, I mean, the buying trends in porn is just not that demographic exclusively. Your own handpicked "taste" =/= sales, that is a warped way of approaching a business
From a business sense it is just reflects the mindset of people who want porn money but don't get online porn sales at all. Sites that have these policies clearly do not look at high ranking models on major sites. They run their sites based on their own fantasy, not on industry trends or market research. Models must join - get that esteem boost from approval and then the ones not tied down by a studio or have liberal access to the internet move another another site that is relatively wellknown & has paying traffic.
OK your traffic doesn't suck but it is popular in India & Brazil, the search terms to your site are off/irrelevant (except for one model), and your bounce rate is extremely high.
You also hold auditions which is even sadder.
Re: Selective Camgirl site?
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Women who are bigger and/or older than me outrank me on every site I'm on.
It does not require a genius to know that old fat girls do lots of money to the cam sites. If I was MFC or SM and I accepted only a niche of girls that would be dumb, because these are the biggest sites where every model and member is supposed to be, and each niche have many results found. Is like generic TV channels who do a little of everything for everyone.
But only 3 or 4 sites in the world can be so big at any time, the others can be only smaller, and so it would be dumb they try to do the small copy of the big site, so for each niche finding too few results.
Every guy in the world know of MFC, SM already and have an account there, so other sites are considered and worth login only if there's something different. Not if there's clone with less models.
For TV, that would be thematic channels, such as sport channel or history channel or discovery channel, so they have a meaning despite the bigger TV with a little of everything exists.
So if I have 50 models online all of which are of a niche (could have been the fat granny niche, would be ok the same), that's considered by who like such niche at least, as results found in the small site are no less then ones of a big site for same niche, as that's concentrated results.
If I have 50 models online of different niches, each niche is 1 or 2 girls only so I made happy no one and they stick with the top sites, as the smaller site have no use whatsoever for anyone.
This explains why genetic small cam sites all fail after opening, while some strange niche cam sites are up and doing well.
Re: Selective Camgirl site?
PBL is selective from what I understand. I've worked for them but am on a bit of a hiatus ATM.
Re: Selective Camgirl site?
GlamourStarsLive is a British based site, is selective and requires exclusivity. I have no idea of the earnings of the individual models, but, at a glance, I quite like: how their site functions, its ethos, and what it appears to represent and promote. If I find out more in the meanwhile, I'll let you all know.