Re: Help hustling, PLEASE
Okay have you read through hustle hut recently? I always find it helpful to reread threads on hustling.
I also get those moment when I can't think of anything to say. It's hard to think of something to say before the silence drags on. I usually comment on them in this case 'wow that's a great jacket, it really suits you! Do you always have such great taste?' 'so you mentioned you work in finance? You must be really smart' 'you come from ****? I've always wanted to go there! Any recommendations on what to do if I go there'
Or you can take it as an opportunity to make the conversation a little sexier. I usually spin a story about how I've always had a fantasy about working in a place similar to him (easy if he works in an office) and wearing a tight little pencil skirt and blouse to work everyday.
Don't be too fun unless the customer is too. I don't get giggly unless I'm sitting with a group.
Also, try not to judge customers before talking to them. See them as a wallet that needs emptying. Be it 30 or 300, your challenge is to collect it.
I hope this helps. I can't remember what I've written. Bloody phones.
Re: Help hustling, PLEASE
Here's an outline I posted awhile ago of what my basic hustle was. Maybe it will help you out:
"What really helps me is to not sit in laps. Sit across from the guy whenever you can. Touch knees with him and lean forward. Use eye contact. I've typed this out before, but here's how mine normally go:
Me: Hey cupcake, how's things? / Hey handsome, what's up? (smile big)
Him: [smiles- thats why I use fun openers] Good, and yourself?
Me: I'm going fantastic / great/ wonderful! [strong words] Looks like you could use some company!
Him: [invites me to sit]
The conversation then goes:
Where are you from? Oh [ X Town]? I've been there/ I have a friend there/ I have always wanted to visit/ I'm going there soon to visit! [insert random positive details about his location]. Don't you just love Austin? I fell in love with [ x, x and x] have you been to [x, x and x]? If you have time, you should totally check it out. What do you do/ why are you in town? That sounds awesome! [ insert random praise about occupation - trust me you can always find something, even if it's Burger King: "Oh really? That's cool- I love their veggie burger! Makes it so much easier for me- do you sell a lot of them?" ]
In my experience that usually gives you enough avenues to branch off, or for him to branch off. I usually do 2-3 songs of chat before I pitch. Better success rate."
CREATE A COMMON GROUND. Make him identify with you. Make him think you totally believe he is AWESOME. That's what will set you apart.
Another way I explained this:
"What used to work for me were several approaches:
a) Paying close attention to who is watching you onstage. I learned this late, after I stopped drinking at work. Even if the stage is far away, you can look them in their eyes and make them come up to the stage to tip you. When they come up, say "Thanks so much sweetheart. Would you like me to come visit you when I'm done up here? I've only got another [3-5] minutes, then I'm all yours!" Giving them the small time frame makes it seem like less of a wait until they can have your attention, thus making them more apt to tell any other girls they are waiting for you. After stage, thank him first, saying "I have to go say thanks to all these nice people for tipping me real quick. Hold my seat for me, would you?" That claims your seat, the guy can see you're a nice person, and it's a good way to knock down any preconceived notions or walls they may have. It also humanizes you for them which cuts down on the gross factor.
b) I always approached targets who were not from the stage in this manner. Come up from the side with the open chair, put a hand on his shoulder and gently squeeze. When he turns around, smile warmly and say something along the lines of "Hey there! Would you mind if I sat down with you for a bit?" while touching the open chair. They very rarely will say no.
c) Make them laugh! I never had a guy say no to me when I came up grinning and was all "Hey there cupcake! I need some entertainment! You look like a fun guy- mind if I hang out with you for a bit?" It's refreshing to them to meet someone who has the appearance of being genuine versus the fake sexy act, at least that's what I was always told.
Additional bits of info:
Always sit across from them with your knees touching theirs. If they protested, I always said "I prefer to sit here, because then I can actually see your face!" and then I'd smile and do a silly "hi" wave. You actually have more control from this position and can utilise neat body language tricks.
If a guy says no, be graceful and don't force him. I always pointed to their drink and said "Ahh. Drink number one?", and when they nodded ( which was 9/10ths of the time ) I'd say "I totally understand. Well I'm Violet, and if you need anything, give me a shout. I'll come back later, ok?"
In light of that, ALWAYS GO BACK. If a guy says in 15 minutes, go back in 15 minutes. If you say you'll be back, keep your promise. It's paid off for me a number of times.
Finally, something I hated doing, but always did anyway because it paid itself forward a hundred times: ask them if they have their eye on someone. It sounds counter intuitive but it isn't. If you ask, and the guy is all "Yes actually, I'm waiting for Rainbow", ask if you can go get Rainbow for him. Not only does it improve your rapport with him, but oftentimes Rainbow will sell dances for YOU in the future."
Re: Help hustling, PLEASE
I agree with all of the above. I always went back to a guy who said "maybe later" because many times (probably more than 50%)they said yes. Also, one thing I always did was get on stage before everyone else was ready. This ALWAYS paid off. I too paid attention while on stage to who was tipping and who was watching me. 9 times out of 10 if a guy made a special trip to the stage he was interested in a dance.
Re: Help hustling, PLEASE
Mediocrity, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! I didn't used to have this problem; I would get tipped large amounts on stage, have at least a 90% successful sale rate, etc.
Honestly, I did better when I first started dancing, and I think it was because I didn't put the customer up on a pedestal. Do you know what I mean? Now, I have sooo much trouble approaching people because I'm putting way too much thought into potentially being rejected.
I also need to quit fucking drinking at work. :/
Re: Help hustling, PLEASE
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Originally Posted by
mediocrity
Here's an outline I posted awhile ago of what my basic hustle was. Maybe it will help you out:
"What really helps me is to not sit in laps. Sit across from the guy whenever you can. Touch knees with him and lean forward. Use eye contact. I've typed this out before, but here's how mine normally go:
Me: Hey cupcake, how's things? / Hey handsome, what's up? (smile big)
Him: [smiles- thats why I use fun openers] Good, and yourself?
Me: I'm going fantastic / great/ wonderful! [strong words] Looks like you could use some company!
Him: [invites me to sit]
The conversation then goes:
Where are you from? Oh [ X Town]? I've been there/ I have a friend there/ I have always wanted to visit/ I'm going there soon to visit! [insert random positive details about his location]. Don't you just love Austin? I fell in love with [ x, x and x] have you been to [x, x and x]? If you have time, you should totally check it out. What do you do/ why are you in town? That sounds awesome! [ insert random praise about occupation - trust me you can always find something, even if it's Burger King: "Oh really? That's cool- I love their veggie burger! Makes it so much easier for me- do you sell a lot of them?" ]
In my experience that usually gives you enough avenues to branch off, or for him to branch off. I usually do 2-3 songs of chat before I pitch. Better success rate."
CREATE A COMMON GROUND. Make him identify with you. Make him think you totally believe he is AWESOME. That's what will set you apart.
Another way I explained this:
"What used to work for me were several approaches:
a) Paying close attention to who is watching you onstage. I learned this late, after I stopped drinking at work. Even if the stage is far away, you can look them in their eyes and make them come up to the stage to tip you. When they come up, say "Thanks so much sweetheart. Would you like me to come visit you when I'm done up here? I've only got another [3-5] minutes, then I'm all yours!" Giving them the small time frame makes it seem like less of a wait until they can have your attention, thus making them more apt to tell any other girls they are waiting for you. After stage, thank him first, saying "I have to go say thanks to all these nice people for tipping me real quick. Hold my seat for me, would you?" That claims your seat, the guy can see you're a nice person, and it's a good way to knock down any preconceived notions or walls they may have. It also humanizes you for them which cuts down on the gross factor.
b) I always approached targets who were not from the stage in this manner. Come up from the side with the open chair, put a hand on his shoulder and gently squeeze. When he turns around, smile warmly and say something along the lines of "Hey there! Would you mind if I sat down with you for a bit?" while touching the open chair. They very rarely will say no.
c) Make them laugh! I never had a guy say no to me when I came up grinning and was all "Hey there cupcake! I need some entertainment! You look like a fun guy- mind if I hang out with you for a bit?" It's refreshing to them to meet someone who has the appearance of being genuine versus the fake sexy act, at least that's what I was always told.
Additional bits of info:
Always sit across from them with your knees touching theirs. If they protested, I always said "I prefer to sit here, because then I can actually see your face!" and then I'd smile and do a silly "hi" wave. You actually have more control from this position and can utilise neat body language tricks.
If a guy says no, be graceful and don't force him. I always pointed to their drink and said "Ahh. Drink number one?", and when they nodded ( which was 9/10ths of the time ) I'd say "I totally understand. Well I'm Violet, and if you need anything, give me a shout. I'll come back later, ok?"
In light of that, ALWAYS GO BACK. If a guy says in 15 minutes, go back in 15 minutes. If you say you'll be back, keep your promise. It's paid off for me a number of times.
Finally, something I hated doing, but always did anyway because it paid itself forward a hundred times: ask them if they have their eye on someone. It sounds counter intuitive but it isn't. If you ask, and the guy is all "Yes actually, I'm waiting for Rainbow", ask if you can go get Rainbow for him. Not only does it improve your rapport with him, but oftentimes Rainbow will sell dances for YOU in the future."
wow this is such a great answer! my first day is on monday and I'm super nervous. I'm a very outgoing fun girl but am scared that my nerves are going to bottle me up or make me feel like i look silly.