Making the transision from stripping to camming
How many of you are dancers AND webcam models? or, are you a former dancer who currently does cam? What made you decide to switch over?
Any general comments or your personal experience is welcome!!
I am hoping to jump into camming full-time. It just seems to be more reward without dealing with smelly men or dressing room drama.
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i was a dancer for 9 years and transitioned out with camming. do both for a bit, then just switch all the way to camming. your hustle skills will come to be very helpful. just learn a bucn about affiliate marketing, and marketing in general.
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I danced for 3 years and now I only cam and I'm just mad I wasted so many years at the club when this was available. haha no, i loved my years at the club but trust me, if you can find success in this... i think it's much better than stripping. It's stripping minus all the negative things like having to touch nasty guys, getting grabbed at, having to get ready like a stripper (you should get ready for cam too, but some things can be overlooked or ghetto-rigged ie shaving, tanning...etc)
I made more money in a club. It's only now on my second year of camming that my earnings are starting to equal that of when I was stripping. And that's awesome because I worked hard as a stripper, and don't exert like half the amount of effort (physically) when I cam.
You'll see a lot of your stripper hustlin skills can cross over. Like all those times you sat for hours in the champagne room just talking, talking, talking to someone you pretty much don't have anything in common with...that'll definitely come in handy haha
And as strippers we're accustomed to dancing around, looking sexy, and bullshitting all day...you'll be fine =)
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exactly what fatrabbit said!
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I was a stripper for a few years and now I've been a cam girl for a few months.
I made WAY more with stripping than camming.
I find it hard to motivate myself when I'm working from home as I can sign off anytime I like. I also miss the social aspect of working in a strip club - bullshitting with the girls, dancing on the stage, having fun looking at feature shows etc. Camming makes me feel super lonely at times (this is when this forum and the camgirl chat room come to help!)
Then again, I hated the drinking, occasional cattiness, super late hours and people grabbing me & being rude. Now I can just ban the rude people. :D
I think with stripping it's easier to just show up and make money. With camming you need to put in more effort at first and then consistently (content, self promotion etc). I'm pretty sure I will be stripping again one day, but for now, I'm building myself up as a cam girl. :)
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I should probably point out that 'club dancers' and 'webcam girls' are trying to appeal to different markets. In the way of basic comments, where a middle of the road club dancer can make up for some 'deficiencies' via strong club customer interaction, webcam is a far more visual medium. Thus it's not uncommon that former club dancers with a pleasant, but not exceptional, physical appearance will find some difficulty marketing themselves on webcam. On the flip side, former club dancers with outstanding physical appearance, even if their customer interaction skills are somewhat weak, may do extremely well on webcam.
As to work ethic, indeed club dancers do have a DJ or club manager or house mom to 'motivate' them ... or at the very least create 'consequences' if the dancer simply decides that she doesn't feel like working on a particular night and doesn't show up. Webcam girls have only themselves for 'motivation' ... and the only 'consequences' of a poor work ethic will be smallish webcam checks and a lack of repeat webcam customers.
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^^^hmmm the physical appearance makes sense in theory. But webcam gives girls chances that the club doesn't. A BBW or a girl with a lot of tattoos may not get hired in certain clubs but may build a name for herself online. So it's different for each individual. I think stripping and camming are apples and oranges. Camming is in the porn market more. Its not all about what u look like all the time but what ur willing to do on camera. I left stripping bc it was turning into working at a brothel. I wanted to put on a show not prostitute w the club being my pimp. OP I wish u good luck with this.
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I made the transition pretty damn easy. I tried camming one night and haven't stripped since. The last time I went to a strip club, it was as a date to a local cam custy, and I got paid more than the strippers to just sit there and be pampered and have the guy buy me dances. Yep, that's all I did, walk in, sit down, be good conversation, muahahah.
This is so easy compared to stripping it's not even funny... just not even...
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thank you for the helpful advice ladies. I used to do camming back in the day full time in 2005. Do you think porn/cam sites have gotten more marketable? Do you think it would be worthwhile to take a marketing class if the city offers one? Are there any good books on internet marketing that you like?
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I stripped for nearly seven years before I made the transition about six months ago. At the moment, there are pros and cons.
I made more money stripping, and you get your money right away. This is the most frustrating aspect for me....but my money is rapidly increasing on cam (I think it just takes some time to build up to it), and you can always set up for daily pay with some sites. Although interestingly, despite earning less, I am actually putting more towards my goals, because as soon as my cheque comes in, I pay something off, rather than having loads of cash and then staring at my empty wallet and scratching my head when it comes time to pay for the big stuff..
I do not miss the late nights, or the schedules, or, well, working all nights! I love being able to work in the middle of the day, OR in the middle of the night, if I can't sleep or something. The only issue for me right now is fitting it in with my boyfriend's schedule so I'm not working when he is at home.
I do miss the simplicity. Go in, make money, go home. With all the tweeting, creating content, affiliate marketing etc etc etc, this is FAR more of a career, a marathon, a full time gig. But this is something that I'm sure will come more easily over time. On this note - I also miss the fact that you would never miss a night dancing because of technical difficulties.
I don't miss feeling less safe. I love the fact that I am working from home, I can geo-block my area (even if I don't, I CAN), most guys are from other cities, and my wishlist can go to a PO box. I love knowing that no one can follow me home, or physically attack me.
I occasionally worry about the permanence of content. Once you are done stripping, you are done. Videos hang around and can pop up forever. Not a huge deal, but it does occasionally make me think - what if in ten years my kid's friend's parents see it, and don't want their kid to come over? That would suck.
All in all, I think its pretty evenly divided between pros and cons, and it depends on your personality and situation. I desperately needed a break from dancing, and camming has provided that. I may go back to dancing in a couple years, I may stick with camming....only time will tell!
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I occasionally worry about the permanence of content. Once you are done stripping, you are done. Videos hang around and can pop up forever. Not a huge deal, but it does occasionally make me think - what if in ten years my kid's friend's parents see it, and don't want their kid to come over? That would suck.
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this is the only thing keeping me from doing b/g content. im starting to stop caring though and about to jump in. theres plenty of cam models with kids. that could be a whole other thread though.
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I'm actually considering dabbling in a little stripping in a few months when I move... I do have a question though... as camgirls, we (well, some of us!) work hard to develop our 'brand'... so it would be smart to have the same name for stripping AND cam, right? I've read multiple times here that you SHOULDN'T do that... but I don't understand why.
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honestly i found that the traffic isnt transferable suprisingly. cam guys like cam, club guys like club, i never managed to get any crossovers.
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^^^agreed. My serious club regulars WILL NOT come check out my cam. They WILL constantly e-mail me asking for "dates" though....urgh
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Oh okay, so using the same name doesn't matter then! Cool. Thank you :D
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i see safety reasons for that too. Guys online may talk with guys who are from your hometown club and your location will be outed. Which can be a good thing for cross over customers, but bad for stalkers, psycopaths who know exactly where to find you in person and what times.
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I agree with fatrabbit. I think the next time I put on the 7-inch heels for a club, I'll likely dance OUTSIDE of my home area if/when intending to cross-promote. I've done some feature appearances in clubs well outside of my area and feel it works best that way for me, anyways!
Maybe using the same first name in the club could be fine, and maybe a new club in your area, where you never disclose your actual home city. Tell the club customers you're a traveling dancer and only visiting that club for a short stint might work.
But if you do that, commit to it, and do NOT tell other dancers which city you live in. People talk, sometimes not even meaning to do you any harm, either!!!
Good luck in whatever you do!
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One thing that I am going to do for cross promotion is promote myself when I am travelling.
Next time I am back in London (england) I'm going to be working for a few nights at least, and I intend to promote that to my cam fans in the UK - as a "one time only chance to meet me in person!". I honestly don't know if they are going to bite on that, but it is worth a shot. I would still never do it in my hometown, and I would be incredibly careful about personal safety.
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this is the only thing keeping me from doing b/g content. im starting to stop caring though and about to jump in. theres plenty of cam models with kids. that could be a whole other thread though.
I am starting to do b/g content with hubby. There's no shame in capturing the passion and love we share. I don't know if you got a guy to be your stunt lover, but that perspective might help you. If our kids ever come across this stuff I won't be ashamed at all to say "yes mommy and daddy love each other very much and have a happy active relationship"