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Dr. Drew's Life Changers episode today-BBW/Camming
So I am watching this show, today it is about BBW's camming, and doing hardcore pornography online. They are about 400 pounds, and actually do very well I guess, one of the girls doesn't do sexual things, she just eats on cam or does other random things, and is getting paid. I know this industry is for everyone, and I am not hating on BBW's, but isn't this on the extreme side? Why would anyone WANT to be 400 pounds, and what about their health?
Seriously curious, and not bashing, I just wouldn't personally ever CHOOSE that lifestyle of eating, just to eat?
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The girl who does hardcore pornography, also does escorting, and she said a customer sliced her up one time. :(
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That's sad :( Escorting is a dangerous job.
This reminds me of one time on MFC someone wanted to pay me to gain more weight and watch me eat. I LOVE to eat, I consider myself a foodie and I can actually get horny if I eat the right meal so I can see how this could be a fetish. I've heard of people eating to the point of orgasm and I can believe it cuz I've almost gotten to that point. But I worked hard to lose the weight I lost and no amount of money can get me to go back. Sure I need the money but it's not worth my health.
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that is f'in crazy... i have custies ask if im a escort and i never really understood what it was till he explained it to me.. but to be cut up thats just idk insane to me.... and im not bashing on bigger women shit im not that skinny either but 400 pounds is endangering ur health there isnt a excuse for that
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i'm going to try to stay out of this thread for the most part but i thought i'd share my experiences/thoughts briefly.
but - my perspective (as a bbw model) is - fat is not necessarily directly tied to health. i'm clinically obese and i don't have any weight-related health problems. my cholesterol is great. my blood pressure is low. in addition to that, even in cases where it IS tied to health, fat people don't owe it to society to be healthy. nobody owes it to society to BE healthy. society harps on unhealthy fat people in a way they don't for any other person whose habits damage their health...there is a bit of a stigma against smoking but nowhere near as bad as the stigma against being fat, and heck, wrecking your health with drinking is actually encouraged in a lot of environments. so is wrecking yourself by undereating and overexercising. when i was eating disordered for 10 years and i was passing out because i wasn't eating enough to stay alive, i had doctors who told me i should lose MORE weight and most people around me didn't comment on my appearance or unhealthy habits, but now that i'm fat - mostly thanks to the fact that my ed destroyed my metabolism - a lot of people think it's their business what i eat and how i exercise and a lot of people feel free to comment on my appearance and habits which are much healthier now - go figure.
so i think it's kind of funny that there are some thin people think fat people owe it to society to be healthy when people who aren't fat aren't told they have to give up everything they do that might damage their health.
there are girls who make a lot of money camming doing extreme insertions which can also cause health problems. (rectal prolapse, anyone?) but yet some folks are like "good for them! they are making that paper!" if an overweight model wants to participate in feeder/eater fetishes and get paid for it...i say good for her. not my cup of tea, i'll eat on cam but not to the point that some fetish guys like and i only eat what i have on hand in the house (which is usually pretty healthy) so i don't tend to attract those guys.
bottom line - it's her body. it's her choice. there are plenty of fetishes in the world that have the potential for harm (or not) that people choose to engage in. personally i'm a fan of breath play. i wouldn't police someone's feeder/eater fetish...i hope they wouldn't police my breath play fetish.
this wasn't directly a response to any specific comments that have been made (i don't want anyone to think i'm attacking them - i'm not), just to a lot of the kinds of things that come up in these sorts of discussions. i know i may come across as a bit defensive and i apologize if that offends anyone - it's not my intention. i'm just saying - maybe try to look at this within the wider scope of personal choices people make you may not agree with, or fetishes that you may not understand but don't necessarily need to judge. if you're more interested in some of the reasoning behind why some fat people aren't terrified of being fat and/or just itching to get skinny, i'd recommend checking out health at every size & fat acceptance stuff (http://www.fatnutritionist.com/ & http://kateharding.net/ are good starting points).
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Feeders - maybe they have the feedee fetish and get to live it out. Devoting your life to eating sounds hot. I've always wanted to be a celebrity chef.
OK, Ill be serious for a minute: I know this is controversial to say on a board where many of us spend tons of time watching our diets and working out... but it is possible to be fat and be healthy. IDK whenever people talk about big women and wonder about their health - it usually sounds like a veiled "ewww" instead of actual concern for their health. Like no one worries about the people on Jersey Shore or Real World dying from cirrhosis and that's way more deadly.
Im sure we've all known some unhealthy-as-hell skinny bitches but since our appearance is mainstreamed we get a pass.
Seriously, google HAES, a bunch of doctors and research centers back it or supports some of its claims. I'm not 100% convinced but what's more important is I know in the past when I would go "hmm I wonder about their health", I deepdown really wasn't genuinely concerned or thumbing through medical journals to justify my concern or starting a save the fat-ladies fund. Concern had little to nothing to do with it. It is more of an aesthetic value judgment than genuine medical concern... bc why care about a stranger's health? I don't, most of us usually don't.
Like I remember when I was a teen, my doctor raised some concern about my cellulite. Mind you, I was slim, lower end of the BMI, no pre-existing medical conditions, played sports... no reason to really ask me about it. Id just hit puberty so that explained the weight gain (again, barely) but I was totally healthy otherwise. People are hella judgey around fatness and keeping it behind a medical explanation is convenient.
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OK, Ill be serious for a minute: I know this is controversial to say on a board where many of us spend tons of time watching our diets and working out... but it is possible to be fat and be healthy. IDK whenever people talk about big women and wonder about their health - it usually sounds like a veiled "ewww" instead of actual concern for their health. Like no one worries about the people on Jersey Shore or Real World dying from cirrhosis and that's way more deadly.
oh god, yeah, this.
+ ~ just because someone is fat doesn't mean they don't also exercise and eat healthy. i exercise a lot and eat healthy and i'm clinically obese. like...skinny people aren't the only ones who exercise and 'watch' what they eat. additionally...what a model does on cam may not always be representative of what she does in the rest of her life. i've considered doing (and probably will do) a couple of eating clips with unhealthy food to sell on c4s because i can make money off of it and because i have some fans who would enjoy it...but...if i do that - what i do in those clips i sell doesn't mean all i ever eat is chocolate and fried chicken, lol. i have a whole life that isn't lived on cam, too.
and then there's the whole part about how it's really not anyone's damned business.
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I am not obese or overweight (my BMI is around 24), but most would call me thick or curvy.
I have a video on clips for sale of myself eating a burger and fries, and does it ever sell! Its the hottest selling clip in my store.
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^I believe it. Feeders spend $$$ hardcore on clips4sale. One of their forums seems to discourage pirating so to support the lady 'gainers' to keep making clips or keeping their membership sites active
Miracle customers.
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sweetsam
So I am watching this show, today it is about BBW's camming, and doing hardcore pornography online. They are about 400 pounds, and actually do very well I guess, one of the girls doesn't do sexual things, she just eats on cam or does other random things, and is getting paid. I know this industry is for everyone, and I am not hating on BBW's, but isn't this on the extreme side? Why would anyone WANT to be 400 pounds, and what about their health?
Seriously curious, and not bashing, I just wouldn't personally ever CHOOSE that lifestyle of eating, just to eat?
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It's a fetish just like anything else. It gets guys off and she makes money from doing it. I don't understand half the fetishes out there (sph, ass worship, domme). And when I say I don't understand I mean "damn I can't believe someone pays for this". But I bank off of every single one of them every single day. "You want me to laugh at your small dick and be rude? Ok cool pay me and we can do this all night". I would imagine the same to be true with the feeder fetish. There are a lot of guys who enjoy this. I'm sure it's hard for her to get a normal job. Plus she's gonna eat anyway right? Why not get paid for it?
I haven't seen this particular episode but Dr. Oz did a show on it about a month ago and everyone blasted the lady because she was around 500 lbs. But like she said "it pays her bills". Plus it's not like these girls were 100 lbs and ate until they were 400 lbs just so they could start camming. They were overweight first then decided to make money off it. I get it. It's not everyone's cup of tea but neither is half the stuff we do. I'm pretty hardcore and I know if I went on TV, everyone would tell me how I'm destroying my life but I enjoy it and I get paid for it. I've never been happier.
I also agree with Tinydancer. There's a million ways to destroy your body but obesity seems to be the one society harps on the most because it's so visible. I can't see that you're an alcoholic, drug addict, anorexic, etc but I see you're overweight so you must have a problem. I'm not saying one should be obese but I don't get why so many people overlook all these other serious conditions but can zone on being overweight.
At the end of the day, we all (sex workers) do "gross" shit for a dollar. That's why I love my job:)
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Love all the feedback, and please just to clear the record here, I am not BASHING about girls who are FAT, it may seem that way, I was just expressing my opinion. I could care less what anyone does, I guess I just wanted to discuss the views on this. I embrace all women, I think we are all beautiful, if I was 200 pounds, and loved it AWESOME. But when it get's to 400 or 500 pounds, that is intimidating and yes, I would think even scary that someone would WANT to be that big. I am skinny, but I am not choosing to be skinny, It runs in my family. The lady in the blue dress was actually a normal size earlier in her life, and actively played sports, she said she became depressed, and that's when she put on all the weight, then when she got into camming, she embraced the weight and she chooses to keep the weight on. That part I am not understanding.
**again not bashing anyone, just sharing thoughts and feelings that came to me.
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tinydancer23
oh god, yeah, this.
+ ~ just because someone is fat doesn't mean they don't also exercise and eat healthy. i exercise a lot and eat healthy and i'm clinically obese. like...skinny people aren't the only ones who exercise and 'watch' what they eat. additionally...what a model does on cam may not always be representative of what she does in the rest of her life. i've considered doing (and probably will do) a couple of eating clips with unhealthy food to sell on c4s because i can make money off of it and because i have some fans who would enjoy it...but...if i do that - what i do in those clips i sell doesn't mean all i ever eat is chocolate and fried chicken, lol. i have a whole life that isn't lived on cam, too.
and then there's the whole part about how it's really not anyone's damned business.
I KNOW!!! I HATE that argument!!! Though most people consider me a little girl at 125ish lbs, the really upscale clubs consider me thick. What they DON'T UNDERSTAND is that you CAN'T change your bodytype!! And a lot of the time, if you do, you have to go DRASTICALLY UNHEALTHY means to do so!! I'm always going to have cellulite and I'm always going to be thick no matter how much I diet or exercise. Until I cut literally cut the meat or bone out of my body, its going to be there.
And its the same, a lot of the time, with the women this thread is about!! Not all of them, but MANY of them! Especially if they make good money. They can take care of themselves.
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P.S. Expect a lot more shows & episodes on camming and fetish. I know its coming.
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I really should start filming myself gorging on cheeseburgers. It's my favorite hobby! Yay more clip ideas!!!
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I am on this forum that is basically dedicated to chubby girls and BBWs. I'm curvy, without a doubt, but I love my shape, I love my curves.
I should totally film myself next time I'm eating something unhealthy, lol. I mean, I eat healthy for the most part, but I have unhealthy things from time to time, of course!!
I dunno though, it does get so that it is "too unhealthy". 400 lbs might be a bit too much. If I ever reached something like 200 lbs, then I might get pretty worried. (Just as a personal standpoint, some girls can be 200 lbs and healthy, but I couldn't be)
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I would think even scary that someone would WANT to be that big. I am skinny, but I am not choosing to be skinny, It runs in my family. The lady in the blue dress was actually a normal size earlier in her life, and actively played sports, she said she became depressed, and that's when she put on all the weight, then when she got into camming, she embraced the weight and she chooses to keep the weight on. That part I am not understanding.
all i'm saying is you don't need to understand it.
i think it's ironic that there are people who want to judge and label this as scary, dangerous, disgusting etc. (not saying you have said all of these things sam, just generally speaking the kinds of judgments i hear leveled at fat people.) like it's somehow worse than all those OTHER fetishes that we don't understand and that people choose to engage in. you know?
you don't need to understand it. it's her choice.
i cannot for the life of me comprehend why the people on jersey shore (or the frat boys across the street) like drinking so much. it has the potential to cause serious health problems (as roast pointed out, way more serious than my obesity). but - it's their choice. i don't need to understand it. and it's not my job to judge it.
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Feederism isn't really extreme in the bbw realm. I have been asked for it a bunch, and I won't gain. I like myself right now. I'm healthy, active, eat right, I have ALWAYS been chubby thought, even when I was young. I personally wouldn't want to be 400 pounds. I know that I would be very uncomfortable...maybe they aren't? Everyone's kinks are different. A lot of people assume that yeah you may be fat, but deep down you really want to be skinny. Not me, while I wouldn't mind losing a little bit...I love my curves and big boobs and fat ass.
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I think this is definitely on the more extreme side of fetishes. I wish, for once, people would talk to just normal chicks making amateur porn, in their bedrooms and not focus all the time on 400lb feeder-fetishists or escorts accustomed to getting cut by johns.
i love Dr. Drew but he has to know that this is just sensationalism. Those feeder-chicks must be raking it in, though. They've been doing quite a few talk shows, lately.
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You will never see these people talking to normal, well adjusted every day cam girls. Not ever. It's not going to bring in the ratings. They want to find the extremes, or what would be far out extremes to most people, to bring in the viewers and ratings.
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Im eating the wrong foods when i pig out - i never get aroused - only sleepy- -- the lady on dr oz had a goal of reaching 1000 lbs
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It's entirely possible to be overweight and be healthier than someone who is skinny. I've been 95lbs and I've been 160lbs...and I'm far, FAR healthier at 160 than I was at 95. I run 3 miles 3 days a week, I eat mostly healthy. My problem comes from the meds I'm on for my endometriosis, which temporarily destroys your metabolism. However, there's no possible way to be healthy at 400-500lbs.
Feederism gives me clip ideas though. I'd totally eat cupcakes and Ben & Jerry's for some extra cash.
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Originally Posted by
sweetsam
So I am watching this show, today it is about BBW's camming, and doing hardcore pornography online. They are about 400 pounds, and actually do very well I guess, one of the girls doesn't do sexual things, she just eats on cam or does other random things, and is getting paid. I know this industry is for everyone, and I am not hating on BBW's, but isn't this on the extreme side? Why would anyone WANT to be 400 pounds, and what about their health?
Seriously curious, and not bashing, I just wouldn't personally ever CHOOSE that lifestyle of eating, just to eat?
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Sure being VERY over weight isn't going to be healthy , but plenty of people are very over weight, without making money from it ... If you're going to get really fat , you might as well cash in while you do it .
I smoke cigarettes on cam - I don't risk my health to make money , I smoke cigarettes anyway , the fact I let people pay me to watch is an added bonus , I'm guessing it's pretty much the same with the feed/eaters
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if u dont eat like a pig, u dont get fat like that...
wtf is wrong with people??
disgusting
I dont care how much money are involved
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Fridays
if u dont eat like a pig, u dont get fat like that...
wtf is wrong with people??
disgusting
I dont care how much money are involved
Ummmm genetics, thyroid issues, hormone issues, necessary prescription steroids for inflammation, cancer & autoimmune pharmaceuticals. Those will all cause you to gain over a hundred+ pounds EASILY without eating excess foods. I've seen it personally in my family several times.