Man, I WISH the Logitech HD C910 came with a remote. :P
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Man, I WISH the Logitech HD C910 came with a remote. :P
You guys I am sorry to burst your pretty little bubbles, but DONT
Logitech cams are the way to go. I speak from experience. I have had the camcorder tv tuner set up, the security cam set up, and the logitech set up and I must say the LOGITECH WINS!
THE SHITTIEST PART ABOUT USING A CAMCORDER/SECURITY CAM OF COURSE IS THE EXTRA WIRES, THE TRIPODS, THE REMOTES, ALL OF THE EXTRA BULLSHIT, AND ON TOP OF THAT, YOU WILL NEED TO ADD YET ANOTHER WIRE WHEN YOU ALSO NEED TO USE AN OLD FASHIONED MICROPHONE TO BROADCAST SOUND, ON YOUR ***NEW AND HIGH TECH SET UP*** YOU WILL NEED TO USE AN OLD SKOOL MIC, AND BE BROUGHT BACK INTO THE 1800'S WITH ALL OF THESE WIRES. On top of this, you will also need to use a PERSONAL COMPUTER, NOT A LAPTOP. You will pretty much be forced to cam in the same location from a bulky desk with hundreds of wires and a tripod you keep tripping over. And I did not even mention the seperate pan and tilt remote yet. Depending on the model, you will have to contend with not one but TWO remotes. Imagine juggling those and your toys as some asshole yells at you "zoom in out up down side side out in out toy now toy in out up down" LOL becasue it will happen. Believe this.
Save yourself some money, and get yourself a logitech 9000 or later model for camming.The clarity is damn near comparable to camcorders and even surpasses with hd encoders, and the PAN/TILT/ZOOM can be manipulated flawlessly once you get used to it. The average customer cannot tell the difference and will be amazed that you can zoom either way lol.
I will never go back to a camcorder/tv tuner set up again. Once I got the logitech and then gave myself the ultmate freedom of a laptop, I simply cannot go back to camming in ONE room attached to a desk all day--ever again.
The grass is not always greener on the other side. If you look at all the girls with the remotes, you will see they are all stuck to a desk in the same room day after day. Sure they have a fancy remote, but they cannot do bath shows, kitchen shows, etc, so therefore they are limiting themselves and their money making potential. I get asked to zoom alot, but I get far more requests to do things like shower/bath shows that require more freedom.
Here's my solution...
If you have an iPhone, download WinRemote. Then you can use your phone, by touch, as though it's a mouse. It can also be used as a keyboard and audio control. But I usually only use the mouse. For me it works better than a wireless mouse b/c it doesn't need a good surface.
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A few issues that probably need to be clarified.
First is hardware zoom versus software zoom. Hardware zoom actually changes the lens focus thus maintains overall video resolution. Software zoom basically throws away pixels at the edges of an unchanged lens focus thus degrades overall video resolution. The LogiTech style webcams use software zoom. The Sony D100 esque PZT cams use hardware zoom ( i.e. D100 physically changes the lens focus by 10:1 ) thus maintaining better overall video resolution.
As to TrackerPod style 3rd party motorized pan / tilt bases, yes continuing to use a microphone built into the camera for audio is going to pick up a huge amount of motor noise when the pan / tilt gear motors actuate. A separate microphone solves this problem. In contrast, the Sony D100 specifically uses more expensive direct drive pan / tilt motors in it's integral pan / tilt mechanism for low noise.
This of course brings up yet another issue in regard to bandwidth requirements between the camera and computer versus 480p or 720p or coming 1080p video stream resolution. Standard USB 2.0 can support 480p, but 'just'. It can't support 720p at full frame rate and hasn't got a prayer of supporting 1080p. So if you are attempting to send 'raw' video from a camera over USB 2.0 you're limiting your future HD options. Now the LogiTech style webcams get around this somewhat by actually encoding the video they are shooting into a compressed format via video processing hardware embedded right into the camera. Encoded / compressed video requires less bandwidth than 'raw' video, so the LogiTech style webcams come close to supporting 720p ( close meaning a frame rate less than 30fps but still good enough for webcam hosts ) using USB 2.0 .Quote:
It is a sony camcorder.I don't need capture card or firewire or space ships.This cam have the video streaming feature.I just plug in my USB,install the cam driver and i stream. the price for the cam can't be more than 200$
But achieving FULL 720p or coming close to 1080p cannot be done over USB 2.0 ... period ! This either requires a video capture card working in conjunction with an analog camera / camcorder, or USB 3.0. USB 3.0 is just now starting to be offered ... with a couple of USB 3.0 compatible HD cameras now on the market, and a small percentage of new laptop and desktop computers having USB 3.0 compatible ports to actually be able to use them.
Final analysis is that 'you can't get something for nothing'. But you arguably CAN get 75% of something for 30% of the price !
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That's what I use, but you have to use pan/tilt and all that fun stuff with mouse or touch pad. So that kind of sucks. Also I had a customer get me a camcorder to do all the stuff with a remote but at the end of the day the camcorders are big, and bulky, and you need somewhere to place it, without having to play around with it. Like someone else said too, if god forbid your stuff breaks, how much do you want to spend to fix or replace it?...
sorry if this question has already been answered- but can u use a logitech pro on a Mac, and if not what the best webcam to use for a mac laptop?
That's what I currently use.. Not bad, but the autofocus gets a 'lil weird now and again. I have to get up and put my hand in front of it nearly touching the thing for it to sorta reset it's focus... other than that, the unit is pretty decent..
I'll be shortly retiring it though.. only using it for special shows in other locations on the laptop.. I'll be using a firewire DV camera as the permanent setup once we get some software bugs ironed out.
As per the Logitech webpage.. the only 2 cameras they make that work on a Macintosh are the HD Pro Webcam C910 and the HD Webcam C615.
Go HERE and click Mac compatible on the left panel.
Honestly, I can't justify spending so much on a webcam (4k for the Sony EVI) when the C910 does the job more than well. Also, the C510, C525 and C615 are good options too.
BTW Has anyone tried the C615? It seems like it has better specs than the C910.
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Here are the two listed side by side with features..
Both the C615 and the C910 can record video at 1080p and stream at 720p. I haven't tried the former, but I guess some videos on youtube could help you find out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUXZaQF65xM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7zYH0yJGoo
^^^ you're leaving out a few important details. IF you have a computer with at least a 2.4 gig dual core processor, the C910 can achieve highly compressed streaming 720p at a frame rate of around 24 frames per second. With a slower / single core processor, the video encoding software run time requirements will drop that frame rate to a lower value. For true 720p HD at 30 frames per second the C910 won't quite get you there ... mostly because it only does partial video encoding ( mpeg compression ) in the camera itself, combined with the inherent speed limitations of its USB 2.0 interface.
At the moment, most webcam customers are still happy to pay for 720p 24 fps compressed video. But this is changing as webcam customers are now getting exposed to camgirls that can generate true 720p HD at 30fps with lower compression, as well as 1080p. Obviously these webcam girls are using higher grade equipment which costs 10 times as much as the C910.
PS when comparing the C615 versus C910 the major issue is the higher quality lens used on the C910
Yeah but most of those girls are either experienced, rich or work for studios. It also depends of your computer, tbh. You can't really expect an excellent performance out of a 4year old PC. Even my gaming rig (which is 4 years old btw) is already seeing its age and needs to be replaced.
Get the C910 then lol
I've gone through so many webcams!
I've used a video camera as a webcam, on a tripod, then on a rotating tripod head. The tripod doesn't give you enough flexibility for the annoyance of using a tripod. And those pan/tilt tripod heads wear out REALLY quickly.
I've used the Sony EVI-100. It was always my ultimate web cam. I watched other models who used them for months salivating;p It was a bitch to set up when I got it. But I figured it out.
The quality is great for doing web cam shows. But the quality isn't up to scratch if you are recording video. It doesn't have that clear HD quality. Even though the logitech cameras aren't recording at TRUE HD, the recording quality is better with the logitech HD cams than the Sony EVI-100. So keep that in mind if you are thinking of shooting self-shot content.
So I saw the Sony EVI HD1 and eventually found a second hand one on ebay for a fraction of the price. Problem is it isn't compatible with the FME. It might be compatible with the new version of the FME, I need to test that. I use something called WireCast to broadcast on Streamate, Babe Chat, and Your Daily Cams.
But WireCast was an additional cost. And it won't work on a site like MFC or a site using a web based flash broadcasting system. And yes you have to deal with wires and an external microphone.
I have multiple logitech webcams also, so I use those if I want to do something downstairs.
I'm a geek though and all those hurdles were fun for me to figure out;p I'll be renovating my office in the new year and it's going to be renovated around that Sony EVI HD1 to free me from all those damn wires!
Really nice cam setup for 250$
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/for-bu.../conferencecam
I don't work for Logitech or anything :)
someone here got one and didn't like it. I can't remember why she didn't care for it.
I wish they would come out with one like the 9000 with a remote. That one looks soo much like my crappy Orbit I used to have. That thing was so noisy when I would pan the cam around, and had such a crappy picture I don't use it ever.
Honestly for $250 you are better getting a camcorder off ebay and a capture card. Why? Because this is still a fixed length lens meaning that the zoom is actually throwing away pixels-degrading the quality. Getting something (like a camcorder or Sony EviD70) with an adjustable length lens means the quality does not degrade when you zoom.
If this were $100 I would buy it. In fact I may wait until the price comes down a bit and buy one.
I've been looking into getting a new webcam. I wanted a pan/tilt/zoom but I don't like the picture quality of the sony EVID100 and like laurielegs said the orbit sucks. I really wanted a pan/tilt/zoom camera that was in HD so I was going to get an hd video camera and the trackerpod but this might work.
^^^ I would only add that the EVI D100 by itself has more than enough resolution to convert to true HD. But the actual analog to digital video conversion results are dependent on the performance of whatever video capture card / module is being used.