Camera quality starts at 5:20
https://youtu.be/c3IJd0wpuGc?t=5m20s
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Camera quality starts at 5:20
https://youtu.be/c3IJd0wpuGc?t=5m20s
So I have had the C930e, the C920s, and the BCC950. The microphone on the BCC is so good that I use it while I stream and make videos with the C920s. I don't like how I have to have the camera positioned with the BCC and I dont like the remote. Thats why I don't just use the BCC. The picture quality is really good though! The C930e was terrible quality compared to the C920s. I don't know why that is, but don't even bother with the C930e.
Yesss, I have wet dreams with the Rally. Definately on my list for 2020.
And I also have wet dreams with this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPVL5Z8HegM
I seriously don't know wich one to choose between Meetup and Rally :)))
Update.
I just bought the Logitech PTZ Pro 2. Now I can make a comparison between those two.
Brio 4k has a feature called RightLight, that makes my face flawless and slimmer, smooth and perfect, no blemishes or flaws and my eyes are popping, image being quite clear. Of course, this is a curse if you want to move, or wear dark clothes (or a too dark background shouldn't be paired with too dark clothes), because you look yellow and you have no option to adjust the exposure. So, if you stream with your face only and don't show much of your body and also don't have much space for lights then Brio is the one for you (u just need an umbrella with 2 lights and a small desk ringlight).
Logitech Ptz Pro2 is the best one for you, if you plan to show your entire body. The zoom is... how could I call it... PERFECT (because it's optical, not digital). Perfectly clear, if you zoom 10X you can't tell, the image is that sharp clear.
The colors reproduced are matching 80% of the reality. For example, with Brio, my royal blue bed looks dark navy blue on cam, while on PTZ Pro 2 looks almost identical, maybe 1 shade brighter.
The problem is that it shows the face blemishes (maybe i didn't use enough lights to test it well), but my face looks dull, eyes not popping, actually looks like in reality and i don't wanna look like that on cam cuz i am a frustrated low esteemed bitchz :))))
It's a perfect cam if you plan to show your entire body, because it doesn't really show cellulite if you have good lights. this webcam is eating a shit ton of light, but it's wow.
Unfortunately, is not what I want, so I will return it and buy a Logitech Rally 4k, because... I'm gonna say below.
If there would be a webcam that makes my face flawless like Brio 4K, but has the other features of Logitech Ptz Pro 2, then... damn, I'd be blessed.
In fact, I only need a Logitech Ptz Pro 2 that has that RightLight 3 sensor (only Brio has it, On C930 and C920 there is RightLight2 technology) it would be PERFECT.
Wich means, I have my eyes laid on The Logitech Rally 4k, wich comes with this technology. I didn't notice that untill I got the Ptz Pro 2 and realised why I like the Brio so much. Because of that freakin thing.
So, The C930e has AutoLight correction system called RightLight™ 2
The Brio 4k has the system called RightLight™ 3 with HDR
The Logitech Rally 4k has the system called Logitech RightLight™ technology with Wide Dynamic Range (WDR) - wich PTZ Pro2 doesn't have it.
Quoting from the description of Logitech Rally 4k "Logitech RightLight™ technology with Wide Dynamic Range (WDR) prioritizes faces over objects and surfaces, optimizes light balance, and fine-tunes color and saturation for natural results across all skin tones. The result is a balanced image that renders participants in flattering light with reduced glare and softer shadows, even in dim or backlit conditions." Source: https://www.logitech.com/en-us/produ...1689#footnotes
I will buy the Rally and test it and come back with impressions.
sorry i know this thread is really old but im on the hunt for a new webcam.
i recently bought the elgato facecam and the brio, i hated the facecam, too much widescreen (i really dont want the guys having my full room in view) so i returned it but kept the brio.
i am lovinggggg the brio quality, but i really want a remote, so considering buying the ptz pro 2, can i ask if you ended up keeping the ptz pro 2? or did you exchange it for the rally? or did you keep the brio lol.
i can pick up a second hand ptz pro 2 for a around £450 on ebay, the rally is double :/.
Hi, I kept the Brio. The colors on PTZ or Rally are kinda washed out and they don't make the face pretty like the Brio. Weird, considering they are more expensive. I need a remote too, but I am still waiting, since i didn't like the PTZ pro 2 at all...
but it's all about the preferences and personal taste, so maybe what looks good to me, looks bad to you, and so on. But the brio does have that rightlight thing that makes the face all bright and pretty, eyes popping and skin smooth. Which ptz doesn't ugh...
thanks so much for getting back to me! yeah thats why i love the brio too, its super sharp still but has an inbuilt airbrush thing that makes my skin look smooth and flawless (which it isnt in real life)
the elgato was too good quality almost, it showed up every flaw. its hard to find a balance, because i still want it to be super hd quality, but not TOO HD either, because i have imperfections that i want to hide. its why i don't think i would consider a mirrorless camera or DSLR, the quality is too 'real life' for me.
we need a brio with a remote :(
lol
Update: I took a leap of faith and bought the Logitech Meetup 4k. I didn't want to buy it new, because I found many used ones, at half of price, most of them only being tested or used for a few months, so like... brand new!
At first I was a little dissapointed with it: washed colors, dropping frames, etc.
But then... I managed to set it up correctly and... hear me out. IT LOOKS JUST LIKE BRIO, but with remote control and MINUS that exposure- light changing shit. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! I can wear whatever, it's not gonna change the lighting. I am still in shock by how good it is, considering I only paid $350.
It still drops frames (It varies beteen 22 and 30 fps), I stream in 1080p which has an ok ish quality, the real magic happens in 1440p and 4k, but I need to figure out a way to be able to stream in such a high quality without the camera freezing. I will order more lights, altough I have plenty of light. I have no idea what could be the problem, I only find OBS settings on internet, for twitch streamers, lol. But no info on webcam splitters and how to fix this. I have same problem with the Brio when I stream in 1080p. In 720p is all good, but it looks like shit.
The only compromise i found now, that helped a lot, was to set the max resolution (4k) in Verysoft splitter and then each site could set it's own res (1080p on SM, 1080p in OBS on chaturbate, 720p on Jasmin).
Meetup is ok in 1080p, but it trully shines at 1440p and 4k.
The thing that changed the whole shit, from yellow- washed out image, to actually something colorful, was the disabling on the auto white balance. It changed the whole thing. Idk why on Brio it was a disaster but with Meetup, it actually does wonders. I set it on auto only to let it find a balance, then disable the auto mode and it looks great!
What I also love about meetup:
- no focus or autof focus. Like... at all. I doesn't have a focus button in the settings either, the camera is focused all the fucking time!!
- The zoom is great, not as super clear as Rally, (rally being a $1200 camera lol) but it's still clear up to 5x. It's reaaly good! Better than Brio.
- It has right sense feature. Which means, you can set it to follow you, it auto zooms and follows you everywhere you move. I disable that because it follows the face, I prefer to use the remote control and zoom/ unzoom as I please. It still has a button on the remote control that you press and the camera automatically follows your face in that moment.
- It has integrated speakers and microphone. Both great quality. I ordered a cable extension for my Yeti microphone and I have to use the meetup mic meanwhile and... people love it!!
- I gave up on my speakers, now I use the meetup speakers too!
- The most important, the mic doesn't pick up the speakers sound!! Now you can play copyrighted music without worrying. Of course, I didn't test it with a too loud volume, but at a level 26/100 (in my pc), the mic won't pick the music.
It took me a few hours of trial, error and almost giving up and sending it back, but I am glad I did test everything. I also installed the Logitech Sync app, I can enable the Rightsense feature and set the camera colors.
The only thing I hate is that I have to re-do the settings everytime I turn on the PC. But nothing complicated, I disable the auto white balance, I increase the contrast a little and the saturation and I am good to go.
Now I am gonna get more lights and see if that's what's missing from having perfect 30fps or even being able to stream in 1440p.
I am confident to say that it truly is a Brio with remote control and without the annoying exposure fucking. Really happy with it.
PS: Buy it used if you can, no reason to pay $700 if there are plenty of used ones, many people get them for testing or they don't know how to set it correctly and they sell it. Just make sure you can test it somehow, if the seller is not local. I was lucky to be able to test it myself before buying, so... take that into consideration.
PS 2: If you buy it, make sure you buy a 4k USB cable for it and have an USB 3.0 port available. The one that the camera comes with, it's a regular USB cord and it can only go up to 1080p. The cord is USB C to USB.