Re: Chargebacks at Cams.com?
When I worked at cams.com, there were a lot of chargebacks. I eventually quit the site, because it was pissing me off. When I e-mailed support about it, they were no help either. So yes, this is typical of cams.com. Unfortunately, there isn't anything you can do about it. Trust me, I tried.
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I've had bad experiences with chargebacks at cams.com too
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Can you still use cams.com as a naked voyeur cam? That would probably be the only thing I would use them for. Extra $ while I'm watching tv, doing promo, etc
It would be a gamble if you'd get a chargeback or not but if you do a least there wasn't any effort into it, right?
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amiamour
What would you do?
Leave and find a new site. Im always skeptical of these sites and their chargebacks for fraud. It would be so easy of them to say its a chargeback when really they are just skimming profits. Would be good if they provided evidence or some kind of reference numbers etc.
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I e-mailed the guy who I did the show with and he said it must be a mistake and he would call cams. He was very happy with our time together and he was actually a bounty member. He e-mailed me again and cams told him there was some type of "security issue" and they were supposed to be fixing it. That sucked! Today I wake up to another fan club refund. I'm so hurt over this.
What other sites do you suggest where I won't have these issues? If you look up my name on twitter (amiamour91) and follow my link to my profile. You'll see for the short time I've been working my reviews are good. These are definitely no customer complaints. Feels like I'm getting ripped off. And with the low percentage I even get from them, it's not worth it when they are constantly taking even that from me.
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amiamour: I am a complete newbie too and part of the reason I decided to go with Streamate is because they dpn't do charge-backs. Don't get me wrong, Streamate has things I dislike about it but I do adore the fact they don't do charge-backs.
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I'm going to finish my paperwork for Streamate and head over there... at least give it a try one day a week. Thank you ladies for all the support!
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Ive had good experiences and bad with cams.com although there traffic is great the charge backs arent profiting the models in anyway. I think if u do the work and time for a custie and there happy there shouldnt be charge backs. So with this said id go to a different site streamate is a wonderful site but also look at other sites dont just do one site. You have to see which sites are best for YOu and what u offer....
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I think cams is a bit slimy, IMHO. They give up a 29%? cut AND don't cover chargebacks??? Come ON! They obviously aren't putting that other 79% to good use. If they are pocketing most of our money I would expect Streamates kind of traffic in return and NO chargebacks.
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amiamour
I just worked my ass off with a client who was VERY happy. He was a bounty member, added funds, and spend 29 minutes with where he did a lot of , " mmmm bb's, so hots, love it." and 15 minutes later everything is charged back on my cams.com account? wtf? So unfair. It equated to about $50 in chargebacks. That hurt. Big time. Feel like crying. Is this typical of cams.com. It's not my only time seeing the refunds in my earnings and the other times I've asked cams about it and they said "fraud". I'm making ok money there but I'm wondering if I should go elsewhere. I'm only getting 29% as it is and the chargebacks are killing me. My reviews are very good and I don't think this is fair at all. What would you do?
Oh no!!!! That really sucks! I just signed up with them but haven't started camming there. I'm glad that I read this because I really don't want to waste time on a site that does chargebacks. I am currently on SM but wanted to expand so that I'm not dependent on just one site.
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HaydenBlue
I think cams is a bit slimy, IMHO. They give up a 29%? cut AND don't cover chargebacks??? Come ON! They obviously aren't putting that other 79% to good use. If they are pocketing most of our money I would expect Streamates kind of traffic in return and NO chargebacks.
I would have to agree i mean streamate is 35% and they cover charge backs n cams.com is 29% and dont cover charge backs hmmmmm bad on there part
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taylor_sweet
I would have to agree i mean streamate is 35% and they cover charge backs n cams.com is 29% and dont cover charge backs hmmmmm bad on there part
Agreed. Everyone says that SM is a low percentage at 35% (and lots ARE higher), but I'll take it for the traffic and for the simplicity...and because there are NO chargebacks. I would be absolutely devastated if I worked for free...I can only imagine how that must feel! :'( Poor you!
I would stop working for them, unless, like Hayden suggested, you wanted to set up a voyeur cam. That is a seriously low percentage if you are having lots of chargebacks as well.
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It sounds like they are scamming people and these "chargebacks" are nothing but Cams.com straight up stealing from hosts. I'm glad I never finished their paperwork.
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MeganElise
It sounds like they are scamming people and these "chargebacks" are nothing but Cams.com straight up stealing from hosts. I'm glad I never finished their paperwork.
I totally agree. I've never worked there. But from the stories I've heard, it sounds like they're just making a TON of money off the models by lying about chargebacks.
There is no way I'm be on SM for 35% if they didn't cover chargebacks.
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What about ImLive? I was trying to expand to other sites so I don't have all my eggs in one basket. I signed up for CAMS.COM but haven't cammed there yet and probably won't now that I know they do chargebacks.
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Even though I was doing well on Cams.com, I eventually quit due to chargebacks.
I don't do shows for free and that's that. It happened far too often. Not to mention, other sites take care of things like that.
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imlive also does chargebacks.
i've been doing pretty well at cams but the chargebacks scare the shit out of me so i'm trying to put more time into streamate (because a lot of my income the last month or two has been from cams). i'm tapering off at cams and trying to focus more on sites that don't do cbs. i hate working for free and i'll be damned if i'll deal with them coming back in six months and being like "you owe us $300." fuck that.
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Busygirl
You guys forgot about the big charge back campaign over there a year or so ago, when they charged waaaaaaay back hundreds of dollars from hosts, and they offered convenient plans to pay them back from each earning period? i know at least one host on here who could confirm this.
yes...i was there for that...they took 400 off my check..i called them
and they said they had a big problem with cbs and took a percentage of every models money to cover it..
wtf? :O
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Was this on SM or Cams?
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h0ttie
yes...i was there for that...they took 400 off my check..i called them
and they said they had a big problem with cbs and took a percentage of every models money to cover it..
wtf? :O
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LusciousKatya
Was this on SM or Cams?
Cams. Streamate has no chargebacks.
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Cams.com Imlive liveJasmin are antiquated in how they think of camming today.
They want to hold on to how they have done business with models in the past.
But you are only as good as the competition. When Streamate, Naked & MFC pay out 35% to 50% with no chargebacks then they too must up the ante to keep models.
But they don't. They think of us as disposable. I am surprised anyone still works for these companies at all. Especially when Naked & Streamate are constantly trying to improve their business model and NOT as our expense.
I read what this companies write over on XBiz, they are all trying to hold onto the past.
I have talked to the owners, they all have no respect for models at all and the old way of thinking that we are all stupid young girls whom they can take advantage of sickens me, always has. LOL They all know exactly how I feel about their shady ways of doing business.
I love that Streamate rewards us with the extra 40% if a guy joins through the links they provide us. That we can track what they spend in our stats and make 20% off of them going private with other models. They act like a business partner, I love this.
Smooches,
Sam
www.Samantha38g.com
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Sam38g
I have talked to the owners, they all have no respect for models at all and the old way of thinking that we are all stupid young girls whom they can take advantage of sickens me, always has.
I did not puke in a while..
Thanks Sam lol
and yes I was hit with charge backs at Cams lately too
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h0ttie
yes...i was there for that...they took 400 off my check..i called them
and they said they had a big problem with cbs and took a percentage of every models money to cover it..
wtf? :O
I dont see how that is even legal. Honestly, talk to a lawyer.
Obviously, instead of dealing with the problem and finding a way to solve it. They take it out of ya'lls asses. Why do ya'll tolerate it?
Why stay in an abusive relationship? Dont you deserve better?
If there are at least 3 major cam sites that dont put the chargebacks onto the models then these other companies are just ripping you off.
Your cam customers will follow you to other sites. When I left Imlive YEARS ago, all of my regulars found me pretty quickly on other sites. Within a month. You don't owe these companies any kind of loyalty.
Smooches,
Sam