Classic Chat VS Party Chat
According to SM, the Gold Shows are no longer called Party Chat. Party Chat is nothing more than normal chat, the only difference is members have the ability to see how many other members are in the room.
Since adding this feature for everyone, I have been in Party Chat mode the entire time. For a few months now... But I'm sick of customers telling me to "start a gold show". They think because I'm in Party Chat then I must be getting ready to do a gold show. As much as I would love to do a gold show, I'm not accepted only because I don't have the ability to hook my internet up to an ethernet cable instead of wifi. I even mentioned in the Topic that gold shows aren't available, but I still have to explain every 20 minutes why I can't just turn my gold shows on.
It has been slow lately so I decided to mix things up a little and go back to Classic Chat mode. I was only in Classic chat for an hour and that entire time, I had less people enter free chat and nobody asked me about Gold Shows at all. Although there were a lot less people in free chat, a lot more people took me private. I had a lot more members in private, coming in and out. My privates were longer.
I only tried Classic Chat that one time but I got used to doing Party Chat, only because your profile becomes more noticeable when it has PARTY written all over it. It seems more fun and inviting. But I did better when i switched back to classic chat.
For those of you on SM who do not do Gold Shows, do you usually prefer the classic chat or party chat? Do you do anything differently in party chat to qualify you as ''partying''? lol. Do you notice a difference in traffic when you try classic/party mode? Maybe that was just a busier hour for me?
What are your thoughts on the classic vs party chat?
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I am approved to do gold shows, but I choose not to do them. I personally go from party chat to classic chat, depending on my mood. Sometimes it benefits me to do party chat, as my existing fans will help promote my show, but like you I notice that I get more requests for "gold show?" lol. That immediately paints a picture in my mind that this dude only wants to spend $5 anyways.
I most often end up in classic chat because my default party chat button doesnt work, I always have to manually set myself to party chat, it gets sooo annoying.
For some reason PC seems to attract more assholes to my room. As if they were watiting for a chance to publically insult me, call me names, etc...LOL. Does anyone else notice this? it seems like once they can chat with a group they are like OMG now everyone can hear what an _______(insert insult here) she is and my invaluable opinion!
The most warped thing I have come across lately was a dude who was tossing out the insults, but WAS PM-ing me (he was saving them all for me I guess) but I just dont get the logic.....there is none.
I do notice in party chat I can get the group talking as a whole and I enjoy this. I can carry on full convos becasuse I can address them as a group rather then individually and it saves alot of hello/hru/etc bs, they can either join in on the convo or leave, no special 1 on 1 treatment for them in free chat and that is truly how it should be, these guys should always have to pay for your individual attention and are kinda forced to now that party chat exists.
We all know the manipulative assholes are out there but I noticed that the guys kinda tame down their freaky/wierd/loserish requests in free party chat because they are too embarassed to say anything in front of a crowd of other men. I like this fact because again they have to pay to tell me about their naughty fetish rather then expressing it in my free chat. I hate when guys do this and try to manipulate you into speaking about their fetish for free by askign tons of questions and that game. party chat environment prevents alot of this bs "lets talk about my fetish all night" behaviour before it starts.
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I haven't been on Streamate that long -- but I think I am going to be staying in Classic Chat mode. I personally prefer being in exclusive just doing one-on-one stuff. In the short time I've been on the site I've come to detest doing shows with more than one person in it because it doesn't seem to take much from where you are dealing with 'one nice guy' to where it totally flips on you and all of a sudden you are dealing with two guys who now have a pack mentality and are egging each other on. "Take off your top bb; show your pussy bb; bark like a dog bb." Maybe it just happens to me but they never seem to stay more than a minute or two and then leave me scrambling to get dress in Streamate's ever so generous, mere 30 second grace period before I am then kicked back into free chat.
And all I have to show for it is a dollar or two , not to mention while I have been gone all the people who were in my room have now wandered off. Including the people who have taken me exclusive in the past.
I hate premium so much that I've actually set my premium rate for 20 cents more expensive than my exclusive rate.
I completely understand that party chat and gold shows really work for some other girls so I am very happy that they are an option, but for me -- not my cup of tea.
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I'm so new to SM that I didn't know the difference between the types of chat or that there were different types of chat until I read this thread. I don't even know how to switch to party chat... I assume that the default would be classic? I also didn't know that the guys in my room couldn't see eachother. Does SM have a FAQ or wiki or something? I need to do some research before I go back on there lol.
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I prefer classic chat for several reasons. I like it because they can not see each other's chat and I think it makes it more personal that way. Also I can quietly ban anyone who is abusive with nobody else the wiser. One asshole can give other cowardly assholes courage to speak up too and with their tiny little brains they can tend to get a mob mentality going. (Of course my regulars will defend me sometimes, but I'd rather not deal with the idiots in the first place).
Main reason I stick with classic though is that my total $ overall is more when I use it. I do maybe 1 or 2 gold shows a week and that's the only time I use Party chat.
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Tsani
I'm so new to SM that I didn't know the difference between the types of chat or that there were different types of chat until I read this thread. I don't even know how to switch to party chat... I assume that the default would be classic? I also didn't know that the guys in my room couldn't see eachother. Does SM have a FAQ or wiki or something? I need to do some research before I go back on there lol.
It isn't just you! Their FAQ is useless. >:(
Do you know where you log in for your show? The window where you see yourself and your video before the show starts? Look to the other side away from the window with video in it and there is a bunch of written options. You will see a drop down box that says classic chat. If you click on it, it will give you the option of party chat as well.
Did that make any sense at all? LOL! I find it so hard to explain these things in text.
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I am approved for Gold Shows but I almost never do them. Most of my regulars have pretty specific fetishes, so I do much better with exclusives. I've noticed Party Chat draws a bigger crowd, not necessarily a quality crowd, and like Laurielegs I'd rather quietly ban someone who is being an asshole than deal with the pack mentality. I only run Party Chat if I'm going to do a Gold Show, which I only do once or twice a week, and I do it mainly to increase my exposure. (then nine times out of ten I have a regular come in who wishes I was available for an exclusive.)
Other than that I stick to Classic Chat.
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I love party chat!
I feel like it helps with your placement - I have been much much higher up since I started using it consistently. I also like the fact that everyone can have one conversation - when I am in classic chat, I find that I am constantly explaining the questions that I am answering...i.e.
Me - Yes, I have lots of heels. (start to describe heels)
Some Guy - Why are you talking about your shoes?
Me - Because someone has asked about it. And do I do fisting? No, but I will do 4 fingers.
Some Other guy - what, you would fist with SHOES?
Me - No. That was a seperate question. Sure, I have red pumps.
Shoe guy - I don't care if you can fist.
etc etc.
It seems to confuse their silly little heads. If they can see what I am answering, they get the point. I also like being able to keep a conversation going - chat with a lot of them, and then they get into it, into me, and then take me pvt or excl.
I also have some fanboys now....so if they are just hanging out in party chat, they start egging other guys on to get shows, bid in for gold shows, and generally just sit around talking about how great I am. A lot of the time, they will come back into my room after we have finished a show and tell everyone else how great the show was and that they should take me exclusive so they can see it too.
These guys are also great for correcting guys who are rude, or YELL IN CAPS. I like the fact that everyone can see what is not acceptable, and what will cause me to kick or ban someone - it keeps everyone aware of my personal rules.
I have also started doing gold shows - I like how quickly the money can add up!
When it first came out, I thought that I would prefer classic, but it just seems easier in party for me.
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shywebcamgirl
Maybe it just happens to me but they never seem to stay more than a minute or two and then leave me scrambling to get dress in Streamate's ever so generous, mere 30 second grace period before I am then kicked back into free chat.
You should absolutely get SM to add a Pause button to your page. It lets you pause your show for up to 10 minutes without logging off, so that you are able to take longer to get yourself put back together if you need to (after using oil, or if you deepthroat and your makeup runs a little...etc) or run off to the bathroom or answer the phone. Its awesome.
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I'm always in classic chat and I LOVE it. Never party chat and I dint even think about Gold Shows. NEVER gonna happen. My room flows just fine in classic chat.
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ManyRoses
I also like the fact that everyone can have one conversation - when I am in classic chat, I find that I am constantly explaining the questions that I am answering...i.e.
It seems to confuse their silly little heads. If they can see what I am answering, they get the point.
I always answer privately by clicking their name, and I also pick and choose who I answer. Beggars get ignored and then banned if they keep it up. Everyone else gets a private answer.
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Well, my regular shows have totally changed since Gold Shows started. So I RARELY ever do gold shows. They encourage begging, disrespect, and the mob bully behavior. I don't want to encourage that. I get enough of it in my regular shows now, and I didn't used to get that much crap from customers.
Guys often make requests of me within the first few seconds of joining a show, I get called a lot more names, there are more overall requests, more "frantic" request "show tits bb yeah fuck it turn around. no turn around. i want to see your face. fuck your ass. NO stick it in your ASS. do it now." and.... then they're banned.
i've been banning about 10x more guys for rudeness since gold shows started. So, no, I don't use party chat mode. i get a lot more guys in free chat, but they're all cheap losers.if i use classic chat, my regs show up. the whales seem to hate gold shows.
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ManyRoses
You should absolutely get SM to add a Pause button to your page. It lets you pause your show for up to 10 minutes without logging off, so that you are able to take longer to get yourself put back together if you need to (after using oil, or if you deepthroat and your makeup runs a little...etc) or run off to the bathroom or answer the phone. Its awesome.
There is a pause button?!? How do I get SM to add it to my page? Please tell me all about it, I am completely intrigued!
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I didnt know they had a pause button. Coolio! I am going to message support
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laurielegs
I always answer privately by clicking their name, and I also pick and choose who I answer. Beggars get ignored and then banned if they keep it up. Everyone else gets a private answer.
How can you answer privately? Or do you mean by clicking their name and then typing an answer? I do everything verbally - I hate sitting and typing, I'd much rather by lying down and talking - It means I can do stuff with my hands (like drink wine! or show toys or whatever) and I can also loll about sexily rather than sitting up...If there was a way to respond privately and verbally, I'd be IN!
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shywebcamgirl
There is a pause button?!? How do I get SM to add it to my page? Please tell me all about it, I am completely intrigued!
Just e-mail support and ask them to add the pause button. I got mine in about a day.
I LOVE it. I still try to get myself back together in the 30 seconds so that I am not wasting time, but it is fantastic.
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ManyRoses
How can you answer privately? Or do you mean by clicking their name and then typing an answer? I do everything verbally - I hate sitting and typing, I'd much rather by lying down and talking - It means I can do stuff with my hands (like drink wine! or show toys or whatever) and I can also loll about sexily rather than sitting up...If there was a way to respond privately and verbally, I'd be IN!
Yes when I'm not doing sound I click their names.
I find that often sound in guest chat works against me. I get a lot of compliments on what they call my sexy voice, but I notice typing in private seems to get me more privates.
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laurielegs
Yes when I'm not doing sound I click their names.
I find that often sound in guest chat works against me. I get a lot of compliments on what they call my sexy voice, but I notice typing in private seems to get me more privates.
Hmmmm...thats really interesting! I have never worked without sound before....maybe one of these days I'll try that!
Learn something new every day on here...:)
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KushKandi, I have gold show feature, and I also run off wifi via a router. I just told them I'm not running off wifi so I could get it, and I have never had a problem with it. Maybe you can request it again but this time just say you have whatever they are requesting ;)
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cyberstripper
For some reason PC seems to attract more assholes to my room. As if they were watiting for a chance to publically insult me, call me names, etc...LOL. Does anyone else notice this? it seems like once they can chat with a group they are like OMG now everyone can hear what an _______(insert insult here) she is and my invaluable opinion!
...
I do notice in party chat I can get the group talking as a whole and I enjoy this. I can carry on full convos becasuse I can address them as a group rather then individually and it saves alot of hello/hru/etc bs, they can either join in on the convo or leave, no special 1 on 1 treatment for them in free chat and that is truly how it should be, these guys should always have to pay for your individual attention and are kinda forced to now that party chat exists.
... I noticed that the guys kinda tame down their freaky/wierd/loserish requests in free party chat because they are too embarassed to say anything in front of a crowd of other men. I like this fact because again they have to pay to tell me about their naughty fetish rather then expressing it in my free chat. I hate when guys do this and try to manipulate you into speaking about their fetish for free by askign tons of questions and that game. party chat environment prevents alot of this bs "lets talk about my fetish all night" behaviour before it starts.
This has been my experience as well. I like to stay in party chat b/c then I can spontaneously start a gold show when I'm bored or there aren't too many pvt shows flowing my way. I definitely get more losers in PC, I noticed my need to ban folks went up dramatically but I attributed that to more traffic to my site funneling cheapo losers to my cam show so I don't know if it's correlative or causative.
Since they can all see each other (unless they opt to have their text only appear to you by "clicking the eye icon", and if so, what's the damn point of PC anyway?!) I definitely get a lot more white knights yelling at the douchebags, which I appreciate. I also get a lot of the white knights helping me out with stuff, like exhorting the other guys to join the gold show or answering other guys who ask the same ol' same ol' so I don't have to. They will also occasionally tip when someone else requests a flash or whatever.
Some of these guys are even buddies now. I call them "cock buddies" since if one takes me to group or joins a gold show the other one will too and I picture them sitting next to each other, chatting and jerking it.
Seriously. Bonding over live porn. Don't you love it? I do.
Last, I've totally noticed the same thing about the fetish stuff. The creepy shy ones won't talk about it, they'll turn pvt chat mode on if they're going to say anything at atll. The creepy exhibitionist ones or the ones too stupid to turn on pvt chat mode will blab on in the entire room and the other guys will yell at them or tell them they're fucked up. The good fetish guys who just want to know if I'll indulge them will ask one or two things and then take me pvt.
I've definitely noticed I get more traffic and better placement when I have party chat enabled. The other day I went to see my room was working (it did that "no 30 seconds count down" thing) and I was on the front page!
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I love both.
Always publicly ban a rude jerk, thus letting everyone know I will NOT tolerate such bad behavior.
Classic chat is awesome, I bank, when it dies down I do a Gold show. After the gold show, my privates are back & I am making money again.
I do raise the price on the gold shows for the same amount of time as the day goes along. If they didn't join the 1st one yet keep requesting I do another, I make them pay more for it. But rarely do I do more than 2 gold shows in a day. But gold show has helped me convert more guys into regular customers.
Nor do I let them tell me what to do in a gold show. If they wanted that kind of power then they should have spent the money to take me prvt. Unless they tipped way more than required to get the show going. They don't get to bark orders at me during gold shows at all.
Love that SM is trying new things to keep the site fresh and competitive in today's market. It is better than begging for tips to do a public show on MFC where so many free loaders get to see it all and count on the 1% who do tip. Doing shows for freeloaders just irks the hell out of me. LOL
On SM I dont show shit for free, I know my boobs, my ass are worth paying for. :) Heck as much porn as I have done over the years they can see it all for free due to stupid tube sites. But they have to pay inorder to interact with me live.
Smooches,
Sam
www.Samantha38g.com
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Zomg I am loving SM these days. Tonight is my first night back in over 4 months and my very first time doing gold shows and it was great. I didn't think I would be able to get one going because I was on the bottom row of the first page but guys kept coming and coming and I had 30 guys in my room during my gold show count down. I had to restart the first gold show but hit my goal on the second try... then right after that a bunch of guys went and stayed in private then I did another gold show when I came out and I was so exhausted I had to leave. At the end I think I was half way up the page which is pretty awesome then my placement didn't suffer when I was gone for months.
I stayed on 1.5 hours and made 75$ which is awesome for me considering it is my first night back :) My gold shows cheap too tonight because I wanted to see how it was going to go. Tomorrow I am raising them 50% higher.
LOVE streamate!! <3