Since I raised my prices I've been making more money for less time, and the guys have overall been much more polite. Raise your prices girls! I really wish I had done it sooner! I'm going to raise them a little bit again tonight ;)
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Since I raised my prices I've been making more money for less time, and the guys have overall been much more polite. Raise your prices girls! I really wish I had done it sooner! I'm going to raise them a little bit again tonight ;)
Just to be devil's advocate. Perhaps they're up in the top row because they're so popular because they do those shows at that price.
More devil's advocate, if it took you 45 min to reach the 450 goal you were likely making roughly the same amount of money as the cheap girls were. Unless you mean that the 450 was your cut and not overall total price.
450 dollar gold show is 157.5. . .
pretty damn good for an hour, if I do say so myself.
Cheap gold shows need to end, I'm sorry.
I have 8 dollars for 8 minutes. Some guys even have the nerve to complain that is too high. Seriously? What the fuck. I have no problem getting privates and exclusives, and my rate is a hell of a lot higher than a dollar a fing minute, let me tell you.
I refuse to dance around and show my ass during a countdown.
I refuse to play the "one more pledge and I'll take off my shirt during free chat so you cheaploaders who don't want to pay 20 cents a minute for my 2 dollar 15 minute gold show can jack off to my tits and leave tehehee" game.
I still manage to make my countdowns, though. (As long as I don't do it around a certain time frame, which I found out is welfare time for me on SM.)
And, my gosh, for what I offer in my gold shows. . a dollar a minute is REALLY CHEAP.
Cheap gold shows need to quit. End of story.
We have worked at 1.99 a min for a year when traffic was good having 50 people in a party show at 1.99 a min was great money :) Now its not worth it. you need to set your prices high to meet goals with lower traffic and cheap ass customers . I have set my Pvt at 3.99 and 4.99 in exclusive its seems to be working well for us.
EXACTLY! Gold shows are already giving these guys a great deal (they're paying less than what they'd pay in private chat). Guys shouldn't be trying to negotiate prices/minutes with you DURING a gold show countdown...wtf?
Just like with MFC...if I say I'll get topless when I'm at 500 tokens, don't be asking me "How about topless at 250 tokens instead?" NO! If y'all aren't gonna get me to 500 tokens, you'll just miss out, and you'll just have to IMAGINE that I'm topless...lmao.
OMG!, Im sorry but this is just getting out of hand lol...seriously, what is the big deal? If it's not affecting your hustle then why make a big fuss out of it lol. At the end of the day, it's all about making your goal (or at least to me). For example, If a girl is satisfied for making 200 Gold with a minimum of $2 or $3 buy in for a 6 min show, why get upset? Most likely she isn't upset lol This thread is becoming very little about giving advice and more focused on hate towards girls with low buy-in gold shows...If it doesn't work for you, that's YOUR decision...but don't sit here and be mad that other girls are doing it...It's not a big deal lol
... is 5$ too much to charge for a tittie flash in free chat?
someone asked how much and he was the only guy in my room cause it was dead as hell, and i was like 5$ and he left... :[
Not at all! it could have been $1 and he still would have left....just another asshole expecting free shit:/
I tried the same thing and you are so right! I'm sick of the people whinig for free. They don't even want to do 5 gold for 5 mins any more...I actually saw a model give a 20 min gold show for 2gold....I'm just not going to do that...that is nothing, but it's ruining it for everyone else.
$5 isn't too much to charge. Don't worry...there are guys who will leave your room no matter what price you tell them. They're the ones who think tits/pussy/ass should be free or damn near free. LOL. And $5 Gold for a tit flash is what I would charge too. Oh, and if they complain "That was a pretty quick flash, bb," tell them that's what a "flash" is...duh! :P Or tell them they can tip more, or just take you private.
I have made a gold show on SM at $10 for 10 minutes with a $150 goal because guys think is too expensive.
why on earth would anyone only wanna get paid 2$ for 20 min............ they'd be better off getting a min wage job and bullshitting all day than what theyre doing now, and they wouldnt have to show any vag
^YES.
NO to flashing in freechat for me, also. One gold is 35 cents, 5 gold ends up being in the "1 dollar and some cents range." For all those freechat campers to see your tits?? No, thanks! I much rather save the goods for PRIVATE or EXCLUSIVE. (After the 30 second window is up, of course, and then some).
My room on Streamate is NOT myfreecams. Guys have no excuse to camp out in my freechat to try to make small talk and all that for less than 5 dollars gold. Seriously. Those guys get BANNED!
if some girls want to show their tits for 35 cents let them aslong they are happy .i dont look at their pay stats or do i care, some do it for advertise and some do it for tease every one hustle the way they want. cheap girls might be banking to dont knock their hustle.:O:O
Different strokes for different folks lol...what works for them, may not be what you feel is right...If models want to do that, more power to them...If whoever she was, wanted to do $2 for 20 min, that's totally fine with me, as long as she is satisfied right. Personally, I wouldn't do it but maybe she's the type of person that doesn't mind it one bit...Also, models doing cheap GOLD shows have never affected my earnings yet so I could care less lol......As for free shit, customers can expect all they want, that doesn't mean you're obligated to deliver just because other girls do it:)
Yea at this point I see so much free puss and bewb in SM that whoever charges anything for tips to see them gets a thumbs up from me.
I generally agree with the spirit of this thread - but I also think uh not everyone here is practicing what they preach and are just trying to subtly slam certain top row SM performers who also post here. ... but I also have a hatred-hardon for frequent gold shows in general, regardless of pledges - theyre understandably beneficial earnings wise in the short term but it is radically changing the culture of the site in ways that 7-10+ gold for a show (per customer) is now considered "expensive" and fills models rooms with amateur porn directors and men demanding you shoot glitter out of your ass for their $3 pledge. gold shows now fill pirating forums and tube sites to the brim bc piraters dont have to pay PPM fees to steal private content anymore. so I cant fully reconcile a conversation discouraging people from being cheap then charging less than $1 a min for a gold show. Trends are lucrative in the shortterm but longterm create a culture to the site that will drive away top shelf customers and business-minded performers.
But at this point please just charge *something* - SM's culture is changing, being spread eagled nude in free =/= smart business move. Youll just stay in free while 20 people are silently jerking off, 7 are just typing "gold show? gold show? gold show! GOLD SHOW!" and the remaining 5 are barking commands to make you work for their $1. If you plan to cam for more than a few months - it isnt worth it, that's an ugly trajectory.
free pussy is not allowed in sm and models know this. it is about cam girls should charge what they want, what ever float their boat. some girls like fast cash and some dont want to talk all day.
i get confused when i see girls full on ass naked in free. If you're already naked whatvr ur doing in private must be downright amazing if you're still expecting to make money after giving all the goods away for not even a penny.
This is EXACTLY what some of the girls don't understand, when girls are cheap it starts to spread all over and it changes the culture of the site. Why doesn't anyone get it? As a newbie I see this and it makes me cringe. This is true in all industries as well, (sorry business major) all you have to do is see the trends. I believe there was a thread not long ago where some of the veterans were talking about sites when there wasn't any FREE CHAT and they were making a ton of money. The point being, yes things change but it's terrible when the changes coming are detrimental to us all (cam girls). Some of you say we should all mind our own business but the truth of the matter is that these cheap prices will affect us all at some point. It may not be today or tomorrow but it will and with traffic slowing down and more cam girls joining sites it's only nataural that girls will try to compete on price, look at Walmart. We should not be cheap we are a luxury and the guys need to pay and these girls doing free shit need to stop. The low prices need to stop. I know this is job so I can't expect to be on cam for 2 hrs and make fast money. Girls coming in and thinking that 2hrs a day on cam is all they need to do think that charging 1.99 a min of $3 for 15 mins is the way to do it (make fast money) but the end result is that they make the industry cheaper, no one will want to pay a fair price cause these chicks have them use to $3 shows!!!!!
Jessycalove,
Yeah, well they do it anyway. I see them on the front page all the time. According to SM if they are not showing their vajayjay, even if they are naked, it's ok. The fact is this is not a get rich quick scheme, one has to put in the time to make the money. This is a real job just like any other if I can understand this as a newbie, why in the world can't everyone else?
So glad that this thread started... I'm now earning twice as much for half as much work :) my non-sore crotch thanks you.