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This thread and the raise your rates has inspired me to up things :) .. I upped my topless countdown from 800 tokens to 1500 tokens about a month ago and thats worked really well. Mind you theres been a couple days I didnt reach the goal because I was super busy with lots of privates those days. Tonight I am gonna try charging 100 tokens for a flash, instead of 50 and 150 for my bj preview instead of 75. Kinda worried someone might say something... but oh well, Im feeling optimistic that people will stay pay.
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Raised my rate today to $4.24/$5.24 made my money the fastest at this rate. Made $50 per hr today and was shocked as hell. I never really could get that much on streamate. others sites yes, streamate hell naw. Glad I raised my rates. Now it feels like a pleasure for me to be there.
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scrow being cheap i charge £3 a min wouldnt go lower now i make 100 a day in no time charge more the big spenders will come :D x
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So 2 friends of mine recently joined MFC (actually only 1 is fully set up, so for now they cam on the one account) and I am soo disappointed in them. I was the one that lead them into camming, and I gave them enormous amounts of advice to help them get started, and I couldnt tell them enough times not to be cheap along with a ton of other very straight forward help.
They didnt listen... my one friend told me all about how the other friend who owns the account wanted to straight away show tits, makeout, etc.. she told her "but Jess says we shouldnt...." and the other friend "well we'll prob make more money, just do it!" ... ofcourse they do terrible. Her cam score rapidly dropped to 500 points. They told me about their nights online and almost everything was the complete opposite what I told them... and now they're kinda stuck in a rut, trying to climb back up. They told me even a few men came into the room and told them to put their clothes back on and stop until people TIP!! Even GUYS told them!!
So unfortunately I looked at her profile the other day and see that it now says something like "Need to pay my way through school so any request with a tip is done!" ..... !!!!!
Disappointing... I tried to help them out alot in the process, and still am trying to help them recover, but its gonna be really hard for them to work up from this now.
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I went back up to $5.99 after going back down to $4.99 for a while since traffic had dropped off on SM. We will see tomorrow how it goes.
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Originally Posted by
laurielegs
Absolutely. My cam customers love me and I'm a really f*king greedy bitch!
I actually experimented with a lower price on streamate once, went to 1.99. I made way less, worked way harder and my room was innundated with cheap assholes who had the nerve to ask me to go to .99 cents, wtf!
I raised my price and I found the customers can actually afford a show and aren't all idiots.
It's the same with whoring babe!
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Hey, I've been lurking here for awhile.... a newbie on cam.
I thought that if I lowered my price because I was curvy I would attract guys but.. I seem to be too skinny for the niche bbw sites and too fat for SM, MFC, AW... but after reading this thread, I actually feel quite empowered to raise it . I think by me "cheapening" myself, I've attracted the WORST kind of clients, the kind that like to try lower your self esteem... I raised it, but havent got a chance to cam yet with it. I haven't built up a huge following, anyways.
Thanks ladies!
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^^ On this note, Curvy, I often feel like I'm 'between niches' as well. I'm a big girl, but a lot of people tell me I'm not big enough. I just said fuck it and put myself in the BBW category anyway (on SM), and I make a decent amount when I get my ass online :) You're never too fat for a certain site. Just remember, the smaller your niche, the more potential money you can make. For instance, there are a lot of beautiful slim girls with blonde hair and blue eyes-- but how many of them can squirt? That's a niche as well. People will pay for exactly what they want-- and by the looks of it, some people want to see a big butt, haha.
Good luck with your new rates. Keep at it, get your rating up, and ban all the assholes.
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Originally Posted by
Fridays
I recently had THIS as gold show topic...
" what would you choose a cheap whore or an expensive whore LOL ".
You should have seen the reaction...
it was so funny..
hell of a topic...
That is AWESOME! May I?
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Originally Posted by
kinkydirtybitch
That is AWESOME! May I?
go ahead!:)
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lol this is a new level of cheap...
dear customers..
please.stop.being.cheap.(!!!!!!)... :D
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I have kind of a dilemma. I use wireless internet from my neighbors for a really low discount. Thus, its not the fastest and the HD encoder always results in custies claiming my show is choppy. Also, I use the built in webcam in my macbook -not the best quality-. I want to raise my prices, but I am concerned that because I am not offering the highest quality settings, the guys won't come in.
I am beautiful, fun and engaging. There is currently never a shortage of guys in my room. I usually have shows that last around 8-10 minutes with a few random shows lasting between 18-20 min. Will they disappear when I raise my prices? I currently charge 3.89 for privates and 4.09 for exclusives. I want to charge 4.90 for private and 5.00 for excl.
I also want to move to non-nude and focus more on fetishes. Could I up my prices with my low quality cam and move to non-nude and not lose all my traffic?
(PS i'm such a noob I know. But I am learning!)
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^ also, it's a worthwhile investment!
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Ran across the thread when trying to find out about adequate pricing on Streamate... OMG, thats all I can say.
Well, I am Russian, I live in Russia and broadcast from there. My English is close to excellent (I have an accent, but people can't identify it as Russian unless I tell them). I've got a Logitech C920, an up-to-date computer, 10 Mbps upload, perfect audio I'm using all the time (not just in pvt), and I stream with the encoder. I use toys, have got a huge heap of lingerie and also some bondage equipment. And it seems I'll never be able to raise my price higher than 1.99 and 3.99:(. Every time I try to set my pvt price, to, say, 2.49, custies start yelling out in my room accusing me of being mean and greedy, telling other guests to help them press me into charging less and saying that in Russia, the money I'm getting must be a fortune. WTF? Do they make less expensive computers, web-cameras etc specially for Russian market? Not at all. Here, in Russia, computer equipment, shoes, fetish clothing and sextoys are sold 1.5 to 3 times as expensive as in the USA. I AM willing to give better shows, I want to expand the range of my services. But I just can't afford any fancy stuff for my shows because, with my current pricing, it's gonna wear off before it pays off. It might get me more pvts, indeed, but I already have to spend like 4 hours a day poking myself with toys - and I dont really think I can take more without getting health issues.
Someone, PLEASE!!!!! tell me what to do to get out of the cheap swamp (other than stop being that Russian)?
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Every time I try to set my pvt price, to, say, 2.49, the custies start yelling out in my room accusing me of being mean and greedy, telling other guests to help them press me into charging less and saying that in Russia, the money I'm getting must be a fortune.
Ban them. I'd say tell them to suck your dick first, but they may get off on that. If they are too cheap to pay your prices and are harassing you about it, then they do not deserve to be in your room. Period. Just quietly ban them, and go about your business with new higher prices.
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Originally Posted by
Sunnylexie
Ran across the thread when trying to find out about adequate pricing on Streamate... OMG, thats all I can say.
Well, I am Russian, I live in Russia and broadcast from there. My English is close to excellent (I have an accent, but people can't identify it as Russian unless I tell them). I've got a Logitech C920, an up-to-date computer, 10 Mbps upload, perfect audio I'm using all the time (not just in pvt), and I stream with the encoder. I use toys, have got a huge heap of lingerie and also some bondage equipment. And it seems I'll never be able to raise my price higher than 1.99 and 3.99:(. Every time I try to set my pvt price, to, say, 2.49, custies start yelling out in my room accusing me of being mean and greedy, telling other guests to help them press me into charging less and saying that in Russia, the money I'm getting must be a fortune. WTF? Do they make less expensive computers, web-cameras etc specially for Russian market? Not at all. Here, in Russia, computer equipment, shoes, fetish clothing and sextoys are sold 1.5 to 3 times as expensive as in the USA. I AM willing to give better shows, I want to expand the range of my services. But I just can't afford any fancy stuff for my shows because, with my current pricing, it's gonna wear off before it pays off. It might get me more pvts, indeed, but I already have to spend like 4 hours a day poking myself with toys - and I dont really think I can take more without getting health issues.
Someone, PLEASE!!!!! tell me what to do to get out of the cheap swamp (other than stop being that Russian)?
Raise your rates to what YOU ARE WORTH! With your specs internet and otherwise I would say your prices are CRAZY low!!!
BAN ANYONE WHO QUESTIONS YOU OR HARASSES YOU! Don't try and talk your way through a troll attack. Just BAN him and anyone who continues to spew the same bullshit BAN BAN BAN! I ban like 50 people a day!
Don't let guys who can't AFFORD 4.99/min privates make you feel you aren't WORTH BEING ONE! You are a real live girl with a business of your own. Don't let trolls and "bullies" keep you from running the most profitable business possible.
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Originally Posted by
Sunnylexie
Ran across the thread when trying to find out about adequate pricing on Streamate... OMG, thats all I can say.
Well, I am Russian, I live in Russia and broadcast from there. My English is close to excellent (I have an accent, but people can't identify it as Russian unless I tell them). I've got a Logitech C920, an up-to-date computer, 10 Mbps upload, perfect audio I'm using all the time (not just in pvt), and I stream with the encoder. I use toys, have got a huge heap of lingerie and also some bondage equipment. And it seems I'll never be able to raise my price higher than 1.99 and 3.99:(. Every time I try to set my pvt price, to, say, 2.49, custies start yelling out in my room accusing me of being mean and greedy, telling other guests to help them press me into charging less and saying that in Russia, the money I'm getting must be a fortune. WTF? Do they make less expensive computers, web-cameras etc specially for Russian market? Not at all. Here, in Russia, computer equipment, shoes, fetish clothing and sextoys are sold 1.5 to 3 times as expensive as in the USA. I AM willing to give better shows, I want to expand the range of my services. But I just can't afford any fancy stuff for my shows because, with my current pricing, it's gonna wear off before it pays off. It might get me more pvts, indeed, but I already have to spend like 4 hours a day poking myself with toys - and I dont really think I can take more without getting health issues.
Someone, PLEASE!!!!! tell me what to do to get out of the cheap swamp (other than stop being that Russian)?
This is an odd question but: Have you ever thought about changing your display country? Unfortunately I think a lot of Russian girls are just labelled the "cheap go to girls" where you're suppose to do off the wall things for almost NO money. If you speak English fluently I say change your country to US or something and just tell them you're in California. You'll seem more like a local exotic than another cheap girl across the ocean who will fist herself for a buck (NOT saying any women in Russia are like that, it's just the unfortunate stereotype). And just like the others said charge what you think you're worth and BAN those who say otherwise!
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Ahh, thank you so much, ladies)))) Now I really feel like raising it))). This job must be not as decent as others - but I still treat it as my job and want to do my best, so hearing them say I should keep to the bottom line cause they don't want to pay extra for better is really embittering.
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Originally Posted by
PrincessLuna
This is an odd question but: Have you ever thought about changing your display country? Unfortunately I think a lot of Russian girls are just labelled the "cheap go to girls" where you're suppose to do off the wall things for almost NO money. If you speak English fluently I say change your country to US or something and just tell them you're in California. You'll seem more like a local exotic than another cheap girl across the ocean who will fist herself for a buck (NOT saying any women in Russia are like that, it's just the unfortunate stereotype). And just like the others said charge what you think you're worth and BAN those who say otherwise!
Yeah, looks pretty much like its the RU index that makes them behave as morons. I often get guys watch me typing and talking in English for like 15 minutes and then ask if I speak English - lol and facepalm.
The thing is that the site lets me only switch location to Bielorussia, Ukraine etc, and using an UK- or USA-based VPN can slow down my connection. Still, you can never know before you try - so got to try it.
Ban every guy who could let it leak - lol, I'd have to ban all my regulars)))
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Originally Posted by
Sunnylexie
Yeah, looks pretty much like its the RU index that makes them behave as morons. I often get guys watch me typing and talking in English for like 15 minutes and then ask if I speak English - lol and facepalm.
The thing is that the site lets me only switch location to Bielorussia, Ukraine etc, and using an UK- or USA-based VPN can slow down my connection. Still, you can never know before you try - so got to try it.
Ban every guy who could let it leak - lol, I'd have to ban all my regulars)))
Hm, I know that if you use DailyPay as your "studio" (not really a studio, just a payment processor) your location defaults to the UK. That's what mine did and then I changed my display country to CA (where I live). Also, you have some hella fast upload speed, maybe a UK based VPN won't affect you much? You can probably also contact Vanessa and talk to her and see if you have any other options. Use all available resources!
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Hey Sunny I'm in the same boat with you, I'm stucked with 4-5 typical cheap eastern european countries to choose from on SM, but I charge 3.59 4.49 sometimes someone asks if I speak english, I say yes, and they hit private.
Whoever calls expensieve is banned. They pay it. There are slow times, but I'd never lower it. Thanks to these threads I originally started with 2.99 and shortly I started to raise. My english is not even close to excellent, but I speak it, understand it, often I talk lots of shit with crappy grammar, but they seem to like it cause it's "cute" "sexy" or even funny. In the beggining I even had a guy, who often came just to hear me talking nonsenses in excl cause it cheered him up. Sometimes I go bitch mode and demand tips for pronouncing words with that "th" in it, cause my native language doesn't have that and I cannot pronounce it correctly so I announced I won't make fun of myself for free lol.
There are other sites beside SM where I can choose literally any country, but I never choose anything apart from eastern eu, just not the big stereotype ones. I also has a handful of jerk off instruction guys who are turned on by my accent.
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Use classic chat instead of party chat so that viewers cannot see what other viewers are typing.
And then... IGNORE THEM!
I get several guys a day in my room who comment on my high rates, ask me 'who do you think you are?', and tell me how many hookers they can hire for that price. I ignore absolutely all of it. As a matter of fact, it barely even registers, except to put a smile on my face. :-)
Run your show in a way that attracts spenders, and DO NOT WORRY about the men who complain. They are not your target market.
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I'm experimenting with my prices there constantly, but every time I raised them, I made less and less per hour, encountered more and more cheapos, etc. I'm no way saying not to raise your prices, I'm just sharing my experiences. On other sites I'm at 3,99, sometimes 4,99 and I get it and make good money, so it's just SM somehow. I'm just saying it's not your country, it's not your prices. You can make it work if you want it to. Experiment, try new things, try other sites, try other time frames, write something crazy in your headline (a camgirl friend of mine made the most money with "Pay me bitch or get the fuck out!!" I think I never could make it work with a headline like this, so...EXPERIMENT and don't be afraid to! What could you possibly lose? Maybe you won't make as much for a few hours, so what...at least you tried.)
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Originally Posted by
Fridays
Your earnings should have nothing to do with you telling others about your earnings..
3.99 and 4.99 are good prices.
seems to be the going rate .
(I now have mine at $5.99 for both prv and exclusives.)
dont lower them.. let others lower them all they want..
"others" will make less and you will make more, considering you;re putting enough effort and thought into it...
maybe " others" dont belong to this forum and lack the motivation and support.. thats a shame and might be the case...maybe " others" dont know how much is the going rate..who knows...
But why let "others" run your business for you and dictate how much YOU are supposed to charge?
You;re the BOSS, you;re in control.
You said this to me....I thought it was harsh at the time. And then I began to learn...
Premium $6.99/min 17m 54s $43.79
Thanks Fridays!! It took me long enough...Now, work MORE hours!!!
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This video itself has nothing to do with camming, yet it has EVERYTHING to do with camming.
Just replace "writer" with "camgirl" and voilà! He NAILS it.
Enjoy :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE