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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
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Originally Posted by
RaineyLane
There are cheap girls of all nationalities!! I have seen American girls (and other nationalities) on MFC being incredibly cheap! I wish they would stop. Does anyone want to write and post a "memo" or something deemed tasteful and non-offensive that we can say to the cheap girls?! LOL I'm only gonna hold my tongue for so long and when/if I say something, it probably won't be nice! Maybe add a link to SW so they can learn more and stop fucking it all up? Any of our more eloquent, experienced ladies want to write something? I'm TOTALLY SERIOUS about this...
Although I would love to see girls quit being cheap, I don't think saying anything to them would matter. Girls are going to charge what they want to charge, what they think works for them. I'll admit, I even do 5 minute $1 shows on rare occasions and if you do it right, it can help. But doing it as the norm... hurts us all. But still.... it won't matter if someone said something to them, unfortunately.
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
[QUOTE=SarahTime;2442909]Although I would love to see girls quit being cheap, I don't think saying anything to them would matter. Girls are going to charge what they want to charge, what they think works for them. I'll admit, I even do 5 minute $1 shows on rare occasions and if you do it right, it can help. But doing it as the norm... hurts us all. But still.... it won't matter if someone said something to them, unfortunately.[/QUOTE
I'm not usually on SM often, but an occasional cheap GOLD show is WAY different than girls on MFC furiously masturbating for FREE and only asking for 50-200 tokens to SQUIRT! That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. And that's ALL these girls are doing! They are butt naked, legs spread, with a toy (or in one case, a cucumber) going at it with full rooms but they weren't getting tipped (DUH) just giving a FREE FUCKING SHOW. One girl couldn't hold her squirt in and just let it all out for free! I honestly LOL'd when that happened and wish I could remember the jokes that guys were making in her room. SMH
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
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Originally Posted by
RaineyLane
Does anyone want to write and post a "memo" or something deemed tasteful and non-offensive that we can say to the cheap girls?! LOL Maybe add a link to SW so they can learn more and stop fucking it all up?
I'm not gonna tell another cam girl what to charge unless she asks me for my opinion or for advice. I did send an MFC model a message (a friendly MFC Mail) once about using PayPal. It showed me that she read my message, but she didn't message me back to say thanks or anything. *shrugs shoulders* Oh well...
If you insist on confronting a cam girl about "being too cheap," (which I wouldn't recommend) please be sure to do it via MFC Mail or SM messaging. To give a cam girl advice (that she didn't ask for) in the middle of her public chat would be rude. But I'm sure that's NOT what you're planning on doing, right? And if you're going to tell her about StripperWeb, PLEASE don't mention SW in the public chat where the guys are.
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IMO that's not a good idea. (sending emails)
Models know what they are doing and MOST know how to hustle it.
I do cheap gold and no shame in my game.
Its easy to put in the instant text what a model will start the show at with a minimum. If the minimum is not met, no show. The men will throw gold. (regulars help and tbh I have had more 1st time custis throw out 50 or 100)
I have a max and a minimum. They are well aware.
About MFC girls... I see a lot of hate about open masturbation and giving away things etc etc.. they make bank, if they know their hustle. MFC is a TRUE hustle site.
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my rate is the highest streamate will allow. I am not lowering it It has paid off a little I've noticed that if I get someone for at least 2 minutes I am ranking in at least $4. with the crap these idiots say to me and what I have to put up with the higher rate is way beneficial some come in my room complain my rate is too high but I really don't care what they have to say they are on a porn website begging for ass.
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MFC? U have to hustle if so
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Originally Posted by
KrissyFox
Okay, I'm new to cam modeling so I am trying to figure out how to set up prices. I get .05 cents per tip & idk on the rest still trying to figure that stuff out. Can someone help me so I can make money?!
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
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Originally Posted by
TheBrownFox
I'm not gonna tell another cam girl what to charge unless she asks me for my opinion or for advice. I did send an MFC model a message (a friendly MFC Mail) once about using PayPal. It showed me that she read my message, but she didn't message me back to say thanks or anything. *shrugs shoulders* Oh well...
If you insist on confronting a cam girl about "being too cheap," (which I wouldn't recommend) please be sure to do it via MFC Mail or SM messaging. To give a cam girl advice (that she didn't ask for) in the middle of her public chat would be rude. But I'm sure that's NOT what you're planning on doing, right? And if you're going to tell her about StripperWeb, PLEASE don't mention SW in the public chat where the guys are.
I would never say anything in public chat for sure! About giving advice or SW ;)
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
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Originally Posted by
temptingmodel
IMO that's not a good idea. (sending emails)
Models know what they are doing and MOST know how to hustle it.
I do cheap gold and no shame in my game.
Its easy to put in the instant text what a model will start the show at with a minimum. If the minimum is not met, no show. The men will throw gold. (regulars help and tbh I have had more 1st time custis throw out 50 or 100)
I have a max and a minimum. They are well aware.
About MFC girls... I see a lot of hate about open masturbation and giving away things etc etc.. they make bank, if they know their hustle. MFC is a TRUE hustle site.
The squirt chick I wanted to message wasn't making anything to furiously fuck herself to the point she squirted uncontrollably!! She was only charging 50 tokens for the squirt in the first place... that she gave away for FREE in public. This is the model I wanted to PM specifically. She was failing miserably and it was really SAD! :(
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Totally against low prices.
To be "pretty" for them costs you money, your sexy clothes, make up, etc
To have the necessary equipment: PC, lights, a proper room, a good internet connection, costs you money.
Your precious time costs a lot of money and most of this: we are totally exposed. Any kind of sex job means risks: social rejection, dangerous people outside thinking you are of their own property...among others.
That's why it has to be well paid. Less than 5 per minute is shit in webcam.
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
After 2.5 years of camming, I feel I'm finally getting what I am worth and it was some misdirection that confused me in the beginning.
I thought I couldn't do better. I was stuck thinking making $100 a night was impossible.
I just recently went back to SM and I have no idea why I wasn't there to begin with. Perhaps it's better I'm there now because my hustle has been perfected and I've cornered my niche.
which means raising my price is working.
I started off with 3.99/4.99 and guys were tipping on top of that. Now I'm going for 4.99/5.99 and really would like to keep pvt and excl the same as I don't like doing group role play/fetish shows.
After a month, I will aim to raise it another dollar but first I need to establish myself a bit more. This raise won't be noticed much and I'm thrilled at how well I'm doing.
And I agree, less than $5/min for cam is shit. Think about $3/min phone sex...guys pay that and we are offering VISUALS. I mean, come on.
Plus raising my price will allow me to improve my wardrobe a bit, finally afford a car, and get healthcare. Working 5-6/hrs a day has never been so rewarding, especially since I barely get nude.
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
I've been slowly increasing my rate over the last couple of weeks. I was at $4.09 and now I'm at $5.99. I notice that some guys that use to get shows come in my room don't say anything, sit for a couple of secs/mins, and then leave. I dunna if there coming in just to look at my price/me or if there jerking off.... either way I don't like it. If they keep popping in then I'm just going to block them. Save up your money or go somewhere else please and thank you. My rate isn't going back to what it was, in fact its just going to keep going up. I'm going to keep raising it until I get to $7.99.
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i am new and i love my high prices had to try it.
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
Ladies, advice needed here.
Like 3 weeks ago, I upped my pvt rate from 2.99 to 3.99 (my traffic was very slow so I decided to get as much as I can out of the few pvts I was getting). Now it looks to me like it was way too steep: while my earnings havent changed (even went a bit down), my paid time percentage has decreased, and my room is slowly sinking towards the 2nd page. Shall I lower my rate back to 2.99 or keep them high hoping for better? I am so close to falling off the 1st page with those high rates, but I am afraid that, if I lower them again, those guys will kick me back into charging 1.99 or less.
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
^ I don't think anyone is going to advise you to charge $2.99. $3.99 is not steep, it's lower than average ... most girls on the front page charge at least $4.99.
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^^I know getting a certain slowdown after raising your rates is natural - but how long can it last? The thing is that, if it stays that way for another week or two, I'll cease being a front page girl)))
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
Well it is slow right now for everyone so i wouldnt panic too much. How did guys "kick u back into charging 1.99 or less"?
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I charge 7.99 for privates and 5.99 for exclusives. I just recently started with these prices. I have had two complaints from my regulars...I find it funny. The two men that complained were not big spenders to begin with. I'm talking two to three minute exclusives guys. LOL What did I say to them? I told them if they can't afford a extra two dollars to move there cheap asses to the next girl. I mean really...it's two freaking dollars more! All my regulars that spend 10 to 30 minutes with me...they don't say anything about my price increase. I freaking can't stand cheap assholes!
Girls..if your new to camming..who cares! Just start out with prices that are higher. Don't worry that your not good enough, because you are! I have learned this since starting in 2006. My shows were 2.99 a minute in the beginning..I want to kick myself in the ass for being worried about charging to much back then.
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I am having a hell slow week too. Well, for most of this month but I am not gonna go back to 4.99 the rate I started out when I joined SM. I think you just should wait out for a week or two before go lower. Top girls are having hard time too and they have said here again again, after years of camming experience, things will pick up. It's my first year camming and I am trying not to freak out for just a slow month. I have a vanilla job to back up and it helps. I think next year on the same week, I am gonna call for a vacation!
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
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Originally Posted by
Snowy0Star
Well it is slow right now for everyone so i wouldnt panic too much. How did guys "kick u back into charging 1.99 or less"?
That's a long story))) I started off at 0.99 and 1.49 and was that way for a year and a half or more. Then, it took me about a year to raise it to 1.99 and 2.99. I tried to raise it several times after, but all my regulars started boycotting me - not actually just leaving me, but hanging around in my room and telling everyone that I used to charge less and they could get cheaper shows from me by helping my old audience press me into returning to the old rates. Streamate's my only site, and camming is my only job, so I gave up after like 2 weeks of making around $20 a day. My biggest camming victory after 3 and a half years on Streamate was succesfully raising my rates as high as 2.49 and 3.99 =/.
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
Maybe try 3.99/4.99 and see what happens? Give it a week or two? Maybe you will get better guys at higher price and have a second victory? :)
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^^ That's where I've been for 3 weeks, with no success so far. Well, they say it's darkest before the dawn. Hope it is my case. =/
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
Try raise before dawn? :)
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
Why didnt u just ban them? thats what i would have done. I can kinda understand it because camming is ur only job but stil...
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
I think it's been said on here before that once you decrease your rates, it makes it kinda hard later on to raise them back up. I imagine there are cheapasses who actually remember that you were 5.99 one day, then went down to 2.99, and now you're at 7.99. LOL. And you'd better believe they'll be all "But you were 2.99 yesterday!" :P
I don't think things being slow should = time to lower rates. If anything, I think it should be the opposite. Decreasing your rates probably means that it will take you longer to get to your goal, and your cheaper rates may even attract the kind of customers you don't want ("Finger ass! I said FINGER ASS, BITCH!" LOL).
Rather than decrease my rate when it's slow, I'd rather keep them as is or raise them. That way, when you DO get private shows, you're getting them with better quality customers. Not cheapass clock-watchers ("This girl's expensive, and I've already been here for 3 minutes. Oh no!")...LOL! You want those guys who don't sit there sweating the time and dollar signs...they just wanna go with the flow and enjoy a good session.
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Re: Please.Stop. Being. Cheap. ( !!!!!!!!!!)
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Originally Posted by
Snowy0Star
Why didnt u just ban them? thats what i would have done. I can kinda understand it because camming is ur only job but stil...
You underestimate the power of the Anonymous.:'( Have you ever tried to ban a name-changing scammer or a 30-sec peeker? I thought that shit would drive me crazy.