FUCK YES
and if u lose regulars for it o well ull make new ones
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FUCK YES
and if u lose regulars for it o well ull make new ones
Too bad most guys in my following arent really into any fetish. I have some regulars who are, and they are ready to pay the money, but everyone else is whining on how they don't need any of these and all they want is the good old cheap pussy.
Of all the fetishes I ever offered, CHEAP seems to be the most demanded))))
aw hun :(. maybe u can try marketing urslef better? ive never seen u on cam and i dont know how u market but maybe reach out on twitter(pimp ur cam modles link) and fetlife and my pornfile anything. i bet it must stress u the fuck out to have to survive on camming i was in ur shoes when i was escorting i was doing $60 for an hour witch is dirt cheap for San Diego but it was where i had to be to get cleints or i would never get calls and make money. I'm sure if you start asking for what u deserve it wont that bad tho. Things will look up good luck
^^Well, they do not say it exactly that way, and some of them used to watch the fetish/bondage shows when I was charging less for them. But they are rather like "You do it because you enjoy it - so you shouldn't be charging us extra for it" or "You don't have to do it, most guys would be happy with regular dildo shows for 1.99". But, yes, worth a bitch slap.
Snowy0Star, thank you ever so much for mentioning Fetlife - I currently advertise on Twitter and FB, but I definitely need to make it more targeted.
Yes, it's a normal profile, and I had no problem creating it /:O.
Sunnylexie, it's been few days since the discussion. How have your rates been doing for you? Hope it's better, even just a little bit.
I can't tell yet (had to take several days off). Hopefully all the SM guys will get paid by the time I come back)))
I've started to read this thread from the beginning and I'm in page 6 right now. However, I found I should say something around here, can't wait anymore :D
I'm not American, as girls probably already know. But I LIE being American because when I told custies where I am from... well, I got a mix of fetishism and "well, so I could pay less for you" kind of reaction. Well, it's not because I'm from a country where I'll make much more earning in US dollars that I should charge less for my shows and pvts, right? If you want to pay less for girls from my country find another one who doesn't have a good English or who doesn't speak English at all ;-)
I made the mistake of telling where I'm from in my first day camming. The following days I've stick to the "I'm from the US" thing and even American guys didn't doubt it. My accent is pretty good and I've always worked on it A LOT. I guess it came out kinda handy right now. If guys insist on being more specific I tell them I'm from Hill Valley, the fictional city from "Back to the Future", hahahahaha!
Still settling my prices, but I never stick to the lowest rate. But I'm not putting it up too much because I'm still learning. I want to leave "learning mode" by the end of the month, when my bandwidth will be already the best one I can have here in my country and when I get some new toys... got only a vibrator so far :(
So, I can resume everything like that: I'M NO CHEAP MATERIAL JUST BECAUSE I'M NOT AMERICAN ¬¬ but people think I am when I tell my background, so I guess I should stick to being American while camming, after all... I guess besides avoiding the "cheap girl" blah blah blah it helps with privacy issues... :)
Am I the only one who thinks it is wrong to say that non-north americans can't do any better? I mean, they are equivalent to us, they are cam girls too and deserve just as much.
No you're not the only one...
I think they are sometimes better camgirls than us on the basis that most of them work way longer hours and more days a week than us "north American girls"
However....depending on what country they are living in some of them can live like queens on $500/week so that's something to consider.
However I totally stick to the argument that EVERY cam girl should make WAYYY more than we make.
Missbeth, I don't know how much girls need there in the US in order to have a good living, but if I made $500/week I would make more than I do alone at my business right now (of course I want to expand, but that's what I make now). If I made $ 1000/week I would make more than my husband and I TOGETHER =P If I made $ 1000/week I would make the average of a mid to high executive in many companies here. I wouldn't live like a queen for $ 500/week, but I would surely live like the queen of the universe with $ 1000/week XD
The bad thing is that I'll need to hide my persona under american cover for the reasons I've mentioned before... and I only have around 4 hours to work a day, I hope it will be enough to make at least 500 bucks a week. But my goal is 1000 bucks/week. I'll let you know what I got in the "goal threads". I'm still learning, still learning.
But I agree with all of you that Cam Girls should make more. And besides that, I think cam girls should be more respected like working girls... I hate the damn freeloaders ¬¬ I mean, are you for real that you don't have a single credit to spend on me but wanna see my boobies/show your cock/just a flash or anything? Like THEY WOULD DO WORK FOR FREE? Bleh...
Oh, where I live I can live like a queen with 500 $, that's true. At first I was lying when they asked me where I'm from, but I was picking countries in Europe (I'm in Europe really). But then I stopped and I started telling my real country. I don't think I've had negative reaction, but I realize, not everyone will like that. I don't know, being honest is much more easy for me.
As for the prices I've set them pretty low, because I'm new and I'm still learning. In sm my pvt is 1,99 and the excl 2,99. I might try raising them with a dollar just to see if it is any difference. I would charge as much as I think I can offer. Right now I have an hd cam, but not the best, I don't have lighting and generally I don't speak on cam (sadly I have an accent and I'm not sure there's anything I can do about it). And also I'm not good at fetishes, because I'm still new and not sure what to do and what men like. So that's why I've set my prices low. But I''m definitely raising them when I get some lighting and become a little more confident and experienced.
Speaking about "$500 queens": in a perfect world, the model's pricing is determined by her performance, not her expenses.
According to the people who think that spending less should equal to charging less, someone living in a land where rivers are milk and honey and fancy shoes grow on trees should please others free of charge just because living costs her nothing.
Well, that's what I'm trying to do. But I understand, that not speaking perfect english is some disadvantage for me and take this in mind.
I agree 1000%, but ultimately we aren't the target audience for that message. Based on what I've heard from guys throughout the years one of the significant challenges faced by non-Western chicas is customer perceptions, and we all have the power to confront that. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's dealt with these guys (I know I've even seen it here on sw occasionally) who parrot unfair stereotypes about women located outside the West....and when we hear that ish we need to challenge it. While I can see language issue as being a legit barrier for some customers, in that those with specific and detailed requests/fantasies need to be able to convey those to their chosen cam partner, the trope of the studio-zombie split camming on 15 sites simultaneously is not the case for every cam chica located outside the west. It's NOT the norm, and quality is not tied to location. Most of us know that, but the guys need to know it too.
I get that it's tricky to have convos about geo location and rates here, in that without discussing (and risking the reproduction of) unfair tropes we can't acknowledge that they exist and are a real challenge for many members here. That said, every one of us who disgrees with that crap about non-Western chicas needs to confront it where we find it. I really appreciate it when those of y'all who confront these issues personally are willing to discuss them because it is an important issue and it's one I think a lot of Western chicas aren't all that aware of, simply because it's not usually part of the western experience of camming.
as an aside, @Ashley your english is on point. If that's holding you back, forget it and bump your rates already :)
We do similar things (I am damned good at beating myself without it actually hurting), and I just raised my prices past the $5 mark. If you're duct taping your limbs together while paddling your tits and gagging on a dildo, all while looking gorgeous, then you need to price yourself accordingly.
I am at 1.99/3.99 doing ok on the 1page and 2page on SM, who care what others are charging as long your doing great thats all that matters
Not everyone wants dirty talk.... :)
I rarely do it..
I understand but at $1.99/min you are only making 70 cents a minute. I am pretty sure you must have more than one person in private at a time BUT if only 1 person was in pvt for a whole hour you would only make $42 and around $33 after taxes.
Just food for thought....
I can't talk dirty for the life of me! I should start practising it on my own language and maybe try it again in English. But that's for sure, not all of us can talk dirty and it's not a pre-requisite or something.
You have to find your own way. It's gonna sound more natural than trying to do something you're not comfortable with (yet ;)
Ok, I did it :D I set my pvt on 2,99 and excl is 3,99 on sm. I'm not rising my lj price, because it's completely different there. I think I'll only use lj with splitcamming. I'll let you know how it goes next week :)
accents are sexy, and if you google 'dirty talk scripts' a ton of resources pop up. Read through to get some inspiration, hell, write some down on post-its and stick em to your comp for easy referral if it makes it easier }:D Either way, I think that a natural-sounding (meaning not stumbling over the words) delivery is far more important than the actual words/phrases one uses. To that end, one technique you could use to increase your comfort/confidence level is to film yourself practicing dirty talk, then review the footage to see what works best for you, your voice, your cam persona.
congrats on the rates bump as well...I get where you're coming from in wanting to wait to increase your rates as you gain more experience and expertise, but the best $$$$$ guys aren't looking for a 'perfect' cam show, they're looking for an authentic experience with a real human being. By the standards of the site (a significant factor in determining rates) you have a lot of room to move up. I hope you continue to experiment with rates increases as your confidence grows.